Out of the Blue

Today is the 55th anniversary of the debut of Star Trek, as the premiere episode first aired on NBC on September 8, 1966. The original series only ran three seasons, but its influence belies that short period, though it's arguable this wouldn't be the case if its revival wasn't spurred by the post-Star Wars science fiction craze. I lived for TOS reruns when I was a kid, forever fashioning myself makeshift uniforms, phasers, tricorders, and communicators. It's probably because of how young I was at the time, but my favorite episodes are probably the comedic ones like the Harcourt Fenton (Harvey) Mudd episodes. I mean how can you not love Kirk and Spock as prohibition era gangsters? "Well, in a few years, the Iotians may demand a piece of OUR action!"

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A_Thein wrote on Sep 14, 2021, 00:51:
Thanks for the well wishes. We are surviving so far, but yea it's pretty tough. Take care all!
Live long and prosper!
The same to you friend !

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Thanks! I will do it soon!
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Thanks for the well wishes. We are surviving so far, but yea it's pretty tough. Take care all! Live long and prosper!
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A_Thein wrote on Sep 13, 2021, 04:05:
I'v been pretty quiet due to the situation here (#whatishappeninginMyanmar - namely civil war) but I am huge Star Trek Fan. I downloaded every single ST series before the last big Internet shut off here.

I agree that most of the new Star Trek doesn't seem Star Trek-ish at all, with the exception of Lower Decks. Yes it is a cartoon and yes it is silly, but out of all the new shows (Discovery, Picard) I've found that this one is the most Star Trek out of them all.

Anyways, I know many people didn't really watch it, but I suggest you give it a light hearted spin. Just my 2c. Cheers!
Hope all is well! Between COVID and the political stuff going on where you're at, it can't be easy.
With great freedom comes great responsibility.
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Great to see you A_Thein.
I'll leave it at that as I don't know your situation and wouldn't want to get you into strife.
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I'v been pretty quiet due to the situation here (#whatishappeninginMyanmar - namely civil war) but I am huge Star Trek Fan. I downloaded every single ST series before the last big Internet shut off here.

I agree that most of the new Star Trek doesn't seem Star Trek-ish at all, with the exception of Lower Decks. Yes it is a cartoon and yes it is silly, but out of all the new shows (Discovery, Picard) I've found that this one is the most Star Trek out of them all.

Anyways, I know many people didn't really watch it, but I suggest you give it a light hearted spin. Just my 2c. Cheers!
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Damn *double post* again.
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jdreyer wrote on Sep 9, 2021, 14:01:
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Sep 9, 2021, 13:26:
VaranDragon wrote on Sep 9, 2021, 05:40:
Blue, I'm interested in how you feel about Kurtzman's (nu)trek shows?

I'm not Blue, but my basic take is that they are Star Trek as written for fans of The Avengers movies. People are allowed to like stuff, and if you like epic spectacle, more power to you. But if what you liked about Star Trek was embodied in episodes like Who Watches the Watchers, The Inner Light, or The Visitor, then nu-Trek basically has nothing of interest.
Avengers or GoT. I made it most of the way through the first season of Discovery. While I really liked some of the characters and some of the episodes, for the most part it just didn't click with me. I liked neither the character of Michael Burman nor the actress that played her. And the plot threads were a big turn off, both the Klingon and Fascist alt reality threads. Anything starring Jones, Issacs, or Yeoh was enjoyable, but that's not much of the show. I had similar issues with Picard after watching 3 eps: I'm just not into the plot line or most of the characters on the show. I don't think I've outgrown ST though: my son and I watched S2-S7 of TNG a couple of years ago and thoroughly enjoyed it.

Of the new ones Picard is the only one I've seen that I can stand. Mostly because it's a who-done it mystery with Data at it's core. The supporting characters are cringeworthy. I can almost imagine the producers, hey lets make a Romulan Space Ninja! High Five Kurtzman. High Five. Although the Han Solo wannabe is okay I guess. It's a damn shame as it's the only show set in the Star Trek present, and they passed up an opportunity to bring us up to speed. Oh yeah, synthetics are banned. The end. Let's get real, no one cares about space ninjas, or space marshals, or space rogues, we wanna see some meaningful stories and interesting problems and we wanna see them handled on the Federation flagship with a proper crew who actually think and behave like intelligent beings.
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Mr. Tact wrote on Sep 9, 2021, 13:42:
WannaLogAlready wrote on Sep 9, 2021, 13:41:
RedEye9 wrote on Sep 9, 2021, 13:03:
The R0 of rabies is naught, unless you were one of the unlucky ones that received the tendons and other replacement parts from the guy that had rabies unbeknownst to him before his cadaver was parted out.
Damn !
Wow, "nice".
“This was the second time in the United States that transplanted organs have spread rabies, said Dr. Matthew J. Kuehnert, the director of the Office of Blood, Organ, and Other Tissue Safety at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The first was in 2004, when three people who received organs from one donor died of the disease. A fourth recipient died, but so soon after surgery that the death was not thought to be a result of rabies. In addition, in 1979 a patient was infected with rabies by a corneal transplant.”
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Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Sep 9, 2021, 13:26:
VaranDragon wrote on Sep 9, 2021, 05:40:
Blue, I'm interested in how you feel about Kurtzman's (nu)trek shows?

I'm not Blue, but my basic take is that they are Star Trek as written for fans of The Avengers movies. People are allowed to like stuff, and if you like epic spectacle, more power to you. But if what you liked about Star Trek was embodied in episodes like Who Watches the Watchers, The Inner Light, or The Visitor, then nu-Trek basically has nothing of interest.
Avengers or GoT. I made it most of the way through the first season of Discovery. While I really liked some of the characters and some of the episodes, for the most part it just didn't click with me. I liked neither the character of Michael Burman nor the actress that played her. And the plot threads were a big turn off, both the Klingon and Fascist alt reality threads. Anything starring Jones, Issacs, or Yeoh was enjoyable, but that's not much of the show. I had similar issues with Picard after watching 3 eps: I'm just not into the plot line or most of the characters on the show. I don't think I've outgrown ST though: my son and I watched S2-S7 of TNG a couple of years ago and thoroughly enjoyed it.
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WannaLogAlready wrote on Sep 9, 2021, 13:41:
RedEye9 wrote on Sep 9, 2021, 13:03:
The R0 of rabies is naught, unless you were one of the unlucky ones that received the tendons and other replacement parts from the guy that had rabies unbeknownst to him before his cadaver was parted out.
Damn !
Wow, "nice".
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RedEye9 wrote on Sep 9, 2021, 13:03:
The R0 of rabies is naught, unless you were one of the unlucky ones that received the tendons and other replacement parts from the guy that had rabies unbeknownst to him before his cadaver was parted out.
Damn ! Wreck
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VaranDragon wrote on Sep 9, 2021, 05:40:
Blue, I'm interested in how you feel about Kurtzman's (nu)trek shows?

I'm not Blue, but my basic take is that they are Star Trek as written for fans of The Avengers movies. People are allowed to like stuff, and if you like epic spectacle, more power to you. But if what you liked about Star Trek was embodied in episodes like Who Watches the Watchers, The Inner Light, or The Visitor, then nu-Trek basically has nothing of interest.
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WannaLogAlready wrote on Sep 9, 2021, 12:40:
RedEye9 wrote on Sep 8, 2021, 17:05:
With an R0 of 0.33 we don't have much to worry about.

Ebola hovers around around 1.5 to 2.0.

Covid maximum R0 ranges from 3 with the original to 7 with delta.
NPR

Measles R0 sits around 18. (When everyone is vaccinated, the R0 drops to zero)
The gist is, contagiousness vs deadliness/damage done.
Would take my chances with any disease before Ebola even if it's *relatively* low on contagiousness.
And let's forget rabies *shudder*.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_disease_case_fatality_rates

The point i wanted to make, without saying it, is it doesn't matter how deadly the virus or how miserable the death is if the R0 (R Nought) is low we don't have much to fear from it.

The R0 of rabies is naught, unless you were one of the unlucky ones that received the tendons and other replacement parts from the guy that had rabies unbeknownst to him before his cadaver was parted out.
- I refer to it as BC, Before Corona, and AD, After Disaster. -
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RedEye9 wrote on Sep 8, 2021, 17:05:
With an R0 of 0.33 we don't have much to worry about.

Ebola hovers around around 1.5 to 2.0.

Covid maximum R0 ranges from 3 with the original to 7 with delta.
NPR

Measles R0 sits around 18. (When everyone is vaccinated, the R0 drops to zero)
The gist is, contagiousness vs deadliness/damage done.
Would take my chances with any disease before Ebola even if it's *relatively* low on contagiousness.
And let's forget rabies *shudder*.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_disease_case_fatality_rates



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PHJF wrote on Sep 9, 2021, 08:06:
Nought is mathematically zero in British English, whereas naught means simply "nothing" (hence the phrase "all for naught"). So nought is technically more correct in this context, but in America naught/nought are more or less interchangeable.
Clear, informative and concise. Thanks

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Nought is mathematically zero in British English, whereas naught means simply "nothing" (hence the phrase "all for naught"). So nought is technically more correct in this context, but in America naught/nought are more or less interchangeable.
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Blue, I'm interested in how you feel about Kurtzman's (nu)trek shows?
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