Windows 11 Announced

Following recent leaks, Microsoft today officially announces Windows 11, the next installment in their ubiquitous operating system. This does not yet have an official release date. The Verge has details from the live stream revealing the new OS. Word is: "The big focus for Windows 11 is a simplification of the Windows user interface, a new Windows store, and improvements to performance and multitasking." Here are the aspects of the announcement related to gaming:
Xbox is a big part of Microsoft, and we also got to hear from Xbox executive Sarah Bond about PC gaming with Windows 11. Auto HDR, a feature in Xbox Series X / S, will be part of Windows 11. Enabling Auto HDR will add high dynamic range (HDR) to a large number of DirectX 11 and DirectX 12 games, as long as you have a compatible HDR monitor.

Microsoft is also promising speed and performance improvements for Windows 11. DirectStorage will be part of Windows 11, a big new feature from Xbox Series X / S. DirectStorage will require the latest NVMe drives to speed up game load times on Windows 11, and game developers will need to enable this technology to boost load times further.

Xbox Game Pass is also being integrated into Windows 11, thanks to a new Xbox app that the company has been testing for months. This also includes xCloud integrated into this Xbox app, so you can stream games from Microsoft’s cloud, too.
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fakespyder wrote on Jun 24, 2021, 22:47:
with Windows 7 you had a lot more Theme customisation options than what windows 10 (1909) gives you as standard. It'd be nice to see some improvement in that regard for windows 11.

I've looked into third party themes for windows 10 but they want to change system files so I'd rather not, unless people here can vouch for their safety.
UltraUXThemePatcher seems to be the main tool you need.
Looking forward to this, the UI looks more modern. I just hope all the apps are finally unified into a simialer UI and Explorer.exe gets the same treatment, some tabs would be nice too. I'll upgrade from Win10 to Win11 very early on as long as reviews are decent for sure.
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For all my criticisms and comments, ME is the only OS that I look back on with true dismay.
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Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 25, 2021, 08:39:
roguebanshee wrote on Jun 24, 2021, 16:52:
To me it reads more like he was saying that roughly every other Windows release is crap. And if you look at it in the order of 98, ME, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 10 you could certainly make such a connection. Even so, the bad ones aren't usually as bad as their reputation makes them out to be.
Excellent point. I had kind of forgotten that pattern since Win10 was "the last Windows version." So, right -- I'll wait for Win12! ;P
To be honest, I think that good-bad list is complete nonsense. ME was genuinely awful, but XP doesn't deserve a good reputation - it was horrifically insecure and many of those exploits could be triggered out of the box with incredible ease. Vista, meanwhile, was reasonable on mid-to-high end systems.

The way I see it, Win10 has been decent and Win11 looks to take that and improve upon it. With TPM 2.0 as a minimum spec, Win11 should be more secure; it's overhauling the awful Settings menu; it's replacing the divisive Metro start menu; it's improving Windows Update; and it's introducing more colour and visual interest into the UI. The way I see it, Microsoft would have to screw up pretty badly from here to make Win11 a worse operating system than Win10. Whether it will be considered the next Win7 is for history to determine.
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Dammit, MS, just leave the start button alone.
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Verno wrote on Jun 25, 2021, 09:26:
VaranDragon wrote on Jun 25, 2021, 08:47:
I find it delightfully ironic when people argue about which version of Windows is best, when in the end they all turn out to be equally bloated, pieces of shit that bring down performance and increase bloat with every unnecessary added feature or patch.

The latest patch that added the "weather and news" widget was in my case the straw that broke the camel's back. I followed a lot of tips from this tweak guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQSkPmZRCjc , killed most of the patches (apart from the security patches) that were released this year and am now enjoying a huge performance bump that I only suspected I was missing.

My internet sarcasm detector is totally busted, is this a joke post or an effort post? I'm having a hard time believing you needed a Youtube video from "Adamx of Youtube", who clearly knows more than Microsoft about their own operating system, to make 2 clicks to disable a widget. Also some of those "tips" from his tweak guide are of the RAMBOOSTER!!! variety. There is very little "tinkering" you can do to a Windows install that gives you a benchmarked difference in performance and "bloat" is just disk space, the overwhelming majority of services and apps are run on demand now. Paring down your startup and installed apps is about the length of what a consumer needs to do. A weather widget makes no discernible impact on performance on pretty much anything from a Chromebook on upward. Selectively choosing patches yourself on a gaming box for Windows is an utter waste of time and frankly you probably aren't actually vetting each patch in a qualified way, just go with LTSC and give yourself a pat on the back for sticking it to the man.

Also I'm not sure why people are surprised Microsoft isn't backporting DirectStorage to Windows 10. They are sunsetting Windows 10 in 4 years and they aren't going to waste more resources than necessary on it, Windows 11 will be a free upgrade and you can sit out the teething period if you want. As for Android apps I don't personally care but some people might, cell phones are kind of a big deal these days.
Does disabling a single widget, service or app give a noticable performance boost? Very unlikely.

Does disabling 10 widgets, services and/or apps give a noticable performance boost? Possibly.

How about 20? There's a decent chance that will have an actual impact. At least as long as you're disabling stuff you weren't using that was running in the background because Microsoft decided it should be the default behaviour. While they might not have much of an impact individually, they will start slowing down the machine as their numbers increase.
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Verno wrote on Jun 25, 2021, 09:26:
VaranDragon wrote on Jun 25, 2021, 08:47:
I find it delightfully ironic when people argue about which version of Windows is best, when in the end they all turn out to be equally bloated, pieces of shit that bring down performance and increase bloat with every unnecessary added feature or patch.

The latest patch that added the "weather and news" widget was in my case the straw that broke the camel's back. I followed a lot of tips from this tweak guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQSkPmZRCjc , killed most of the patches (apart from the security patches) that were released this year and am now enjoying a huge performance bump that I only suspected I was missing.

My internet sarcasm detector is totally busted, is this a joke post or an effort post? I'm having a hard time believing you needed a Youtube video from "Adamx of Youtube", who clearly knows more than Microsoft about their own operating system, to make 2 clicks to disable a widget. Also some of those "tips" from his tweak guide are of the RAMBOOSTER!!! variety. There is very little "tinkering" you can do to a Windows install that gives you a benchmarked difference in performance and "bloat" is just disk space, the overwhelming majority of services and apps are run on demand now. Paring down your startup and installed apps is about the length of what a consumer needs to do. A weather widget makes no discernible impact on performance on pretty much anything from a Chromebook on upward. Selectively choosing patches yourself on a gaming box for Windows is an utter waste of time and frankly you probably aren't actually vetting each patch in a qualified way, just go with LTSC and give yourself a pat on the back for sticking it to the man.

Also I'm not sure why people are surprised Microsoft isn't backporting DirectStorage to Windows 10. They are sunsetting Windows 10 in 4 years and they aren't going to waste more resources than necessary on it, Windows 11 will be a free upgrade and you can sit out the teething period if you want. As for Android apps I don't personally care but some people might, cell phones are kind of a big deal these days.

What difference does it make if it's a 2% boost, or maybe something more discernible where every little bit counts in single threaded apps. Like I said, and which should have been clear from what I wrote, before you politely told me off, is that I used "a lot of" tips from that guide, definitely not all of them, because I couldn't be bothered to google how to do the housekeeping all on my own. Do I believe that whoever the fuck that guy is knows more than MS engineers? No I don't. But I also can't argue against results, and yes I have seen noticable improvements, in single-core VR gaming (DCS World) where every little bit of frame-time counts.
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VaranDragon wrote on Jun 25, 2021, 08:47:
I find it delightfully ironic when people argue about which version of Windows is best, when in the end they all turn out to be equally bloated, pieces of shit that bring down performance and increase bloat with every unnecessary added feature or patch.

The latest patch that added the "weather and news" widget was in my case the straw that broke the camel's back. I followed a lot of tips from this tweak guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQSkPmZRCjc , killed most of the patches (apart from the security patches) that were released this year and am now enjoying a huge performance bump that I only suspected I was missing.

My internet sarcasm detector is totally busted, is this a joke post or an effort post? I'm having a hard time believing you needed a Youtube video from "Adamx of Youtube", who clearly knows more than Microsoft about their own operating system, to make 2 clicks to disable a widget. Also some of those "tips" from his tweak guide are of the RAMBOOSTER!!! variety. There is very little "tinkering" you can do to a Windows install that gives you a benchmarked difference in performance and "bloat" is just disk space, the overwhelming majority of services and apps are run on demand now. Paring down your startup and installed apps is about the length of what a consumer needs to do. A weather widget makes no discernible impact on performance on pretty much anything from a Chromebook on upward. Selectively choosing patches yourself on a gaming box for Windows is an utter waste of time and frankly you probably aren't actually vetting each patch in a qualified way, just go with LTSC and give yourself a pat on the back for sticking it to the man.

Also I'm not sure why people are surprised Microsoft isn't backporting DirectStorage to Windows 10. They are sunsetting Windows 10 in 4 years and they aren't going to waste more resources than necessary on it, Windows 11 will be a free upgrade and you can sit out the teething period if you want. As for Android apps I don't personally care but some people might, cell phones are kind of a big deal these days.
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VaranDragon wrote on Jun 25, 2021, 08:47:
I find it delightfully ironic when people argue about which version of Windows is best, when in the end they all turn out to be equally bloated, pieces of shit that bring down performance and increase bloat with every unnecessary added feature or patch.
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I find it delightfully ironic when people argue about which version of Windows is best, when in the end they all turn out to be equally bloated, pieces of shit that bring down performance and increase bloat with every unnecessary added feature or patch.

The latest patch that added the "weather and news" widget was in my case the straw that broke the camel's back. I followed a lot of tips from this tweak guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQSkPmZRCjc , killed most of the patches (apart from the security patches) that were released this year and am now enjoying a huge performance bump that I only suspected I was missing.
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roguebanshee wrote on Jun 24, 2021, 16:52:
To me it reads more like he was saying that roughly every other Windows release is crap. And if you look at it in the order of 98, ME, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 10 you could certainly make such a connection. Even so, the bad ones aren't usually as bad as their reputation makes them out to be.
Excellent point. I had kind of forgotten that pattern since Win10 was "the last Windows version." So, right -- I'll wait for Win12!
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Hmm interesting...
* android apps running native in Windows
* game pass and streaming/cloud gaming
* various saved windows arrangements and sessions

Reality check...
* remember upgrade experience from Win 8 to Win 10
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RedEye9 wrote on Jun 25, 2021, 00:26:
Steele Johnson wrote on Jun 25, 2021, 00:14:
Solemn-Philosopher wrote on Jun 24, 2021, 12:06:
The live stream was lacking info and overflowing in sentiment. I feel like I should invite Windows 11 to my next family picnic.

Don't worry, it will come to the picnic whether you invite it or not

So you're saying Windows 11 will CRASH
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I think what he's saying is, "THAT'S HOW YOU GET ANTS!"
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Mike1233 wrote on Jun 25, 2021, 03:02:
The 100% developer cut on their app store feels like a bait and switch... no thanks
I'm not so sure. Microsoft is just responding to the fact the Microsoft Store has been extremely poorly received and used. It's aware that people can just download Steam or Adobe Creative Cloud directly and bypass the store, and would rather have people go to their store even if they don't get a cut.

From a business perspective, having more developers use the store will attract more users. Some of those users will then go on to buy apps or subscriptions that provide a cut to Microsoft. It will probably make them more money than they're getting now, as it's an approach that has worked well for Android.
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At this point Windows has become the "Gamebyro engine" of operating systems.
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The 100% developer cut on their app store feels like a bait and switch... no thanks
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roguebanshee wrote on Jun 24, 2021, 16:52:
jdreyer wrote on Jun 24, 2021, 15:38:
Foxtrot2Nov wrote on Jun 24, 2021, 15:32:
Considering every other Windows OS is a complete failure and travesty, hard pass on Windows 11.
Linux man?
To me it reads more like he was saying that roughly every other Windows release is crap. And if you look at it in the order of 98, ME, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 10 you could certainly make such a connection. Even so, the bad ones aren't usually as bad as their reputation makes them out to be.

Roguebanshee has me right.
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Steele Johnson wrote on Jun 25, 2021, 00:14:
Solemn-Philosopher wrote on Jun 24, 2021, 12:06:
The live stream was lacking info and overflowing in sentiment. I feel like I should invite Windows 11 to my next family picnic.

Don't worry, it will come to the picnic whether you invite it or not

So you're saying Windows 11 will CRASH
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Solemn-Philosopher wrote on Jun 24, 2021, 12:06:
The live stream was lacking info and overflowing in sentiment. I feel like I should invite Windows 11 to my next family picnic.

Don't worry, it will come to the picnic whether you invite it or not
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I will jump in early too. At least with the gaming rig. Check it all out etc so I can get well versed and maintain the illusion in my household that I know how to fix all the computer problems.
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