Out of the Blue

Well, today is one of those anniversaries that is making my brain hurt. It was on this day in 1996 that Quake was first released. That's right, id Software's first-person shooter turns 25 years-old today. Just about every year I celebrate the occasion by playing the game on my current PC. Sadly, there will be none of that for me this time around, as the splint on my left arm has me on the gaming disabled list for the foreseeable future. Anyway, it certainly is hard to wrap my mind around Quake turnng 25. For perspective, it launched in 1996. At that time, a 25 year old game would have come out in 1971. The big computer game that year was Oregon Trail, which is quite a leap. On the other hand, fighting the Strogg is no picnic, but it does beat dysentery!

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Re: Out of the Blue
Jun 25, 2021, 01:20
Kxmode
 
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Re: Out of the Blue Jun 25, 2021, 01:20
Jun 25, 2021, 01:20
 Kxmode
 
Armengar wrote on Jun 24, 2021, 04:24:
Kxmode wrote on Jun 23, 2021, 01:27:
Armengar wrote on Jun 22, 2021, 14:16:
i remember laughing at how bad windows 1 was vs TOS

Please excuse my dumb question but what is TOS?

TOS was the operating system of Atari. In the mid 80's those GUI were far better than Windows 1 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_TOS) we used to have a few Atari STs controlling some MIDI interfaced equipment back in the days. The equivalent PC at the time were monsters that wouldnt do the same job and looked awful. At the time the Ataris we had in the studio looked decent and ran well enough.

For one you could do proper multitasking for realtime - i.e. have two proper programs running live at the same time. We used to have a sequencer, controller and be editing something simultaneously on the Ataris whereas a PC had problems running MIDI + anything else at the time.

The desktop was cleaner (from what I remember) and had a reasonable scripting shell from my memory. This was quite some time ago mind.
Thank you for that insightful answer. 👍
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jun 24, 2021, 04:24
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Re: Out of the Blue Jun 24, 2021, 04:24
Jun 24, 2021, 04:24
 
Kxmode wrote on Jun 23, 2021, 01:27:
Armengar wrote on Jun 22, 2021, 14:16:
i remember laughing at how bad windows 1 was vs TOS

Please excuse my dumb question but what is TOS?

TOS was the operating system of Atari. In the mid 80's those GUI were far better than Windows 1 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_TOS) we used to have a few Atari STs controlling some MIDI interfaced equipment back in the days. The equivalent PC at the time were monsters that wouldnt do the same job and looked awful. At the time the Ataris we had in the studio looked decent and ran well enough.

For one you could do proper multitasking for realtime - i.e. have two proper programs running live at the same time. We used to have a sequencer, controller and be editing something simultaneously on the Ataris whereas a PC had problems running MIDI + anything else at the time.

The desktop was cleaner (from what I remember) and had a reasonable scripting shell from my memory. This was quite some time ago mind.

This comment was edited on Jun 24, 2021, 07:01.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jun 24, 2021, 04:20
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Re: Out of the Blue Jun 24, 2021, 04:20
Jun 24, 2021, 04:20
 
i enjoyed the Mandalorian, im also enjoying bad batch. Quite a few people have told me that the clone wars wasnt too bad either.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jun 24, 2021, 02:48
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Re: Out of the Blue Jun 24, 2021, 02:48
Jun 24, 2021, 02:48
 
Blue: Logitech G600 or Razer Naga Trinity (I prefer the 7 button razer, better spaced out and their software is so much better than logitechs.)

The 'field' of buttons replaces w/a/s/d/r/whatever program specific control needed controlled by your thumb, 2 spine buttons for jump/use, third right click (logitech g600) for left control for duck/modifier. Not a FPS/game in the world you can't play with that and the numpad (easy being beside the mouse) with 1 hand.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jun 23, 2021, 20:45
Kxmode
 
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Re: Out of the Blue Jun 23, 2021, 20:45
Jun 23, 2021, 20:45
 Kxmode
 
RedEye9 wrote on Jun 23, 2021, 19:21:
TOS
The Operating System
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_TOS

Hmmm... first time I've heard of it. Thank you. That was before my time. I got into computers in 1991 around MS-DOS 5 and Wing Commander 2. I remember the guy selling my parents the computer touted MS-DOS 5.0 as the latest and greatest version of the operating system. We all looked cluelessly dumbfounded. 😄
"What is the most resilient parasite? Bacteria? A virus? An intestinal worm? An idea. Resilient... highly contagious. Once an idea has taken hold of the brain it is almost impossible to eradicate."
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jun 23, 2021, 19:21
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Re: Out of the Blue Jun 23, 2021, 19:21
Jun 23, 2021, 19:21
 
TOS
The Operating System
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_TOS
- I refer to it as BC, Before Corona, and AD, After Disaster. -
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jun 23, 2021, 18:48
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Re: Out of the Blue Jun 23, 2021, 18:48
Jun 23, 2021, 18:48
 
Well said. True for far too many.
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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No More Left Turns: Why Science Says We Should Eliminate Them
Jun 23, 2021, 18:44
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No More Left Turns: Why Science Says We Should Eliminate Them Jun 23, 2021, 18:44
Jun 23, 2021, 18:44
 

And considering the recent accident Blue went through leads me to believe that:

The political consensus all around the world seems to be true, US citizens are truly unable to "turn left".

*cheeky*
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jun 23, 2021, 04:36
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Re: Out of the Blue Jun 23, 2021, 04:36
Jun 23, 2021, 04:36
 
Happy 25 to one of my favorite games! I've always been grateful my father was not only a PC gamer, but loved to play these games with me! So many great memories of the mods (Team Fortress of course!) and many games played over the years. My Dad always loves telling the story of how he had a server on MPlayer(dot)com, and for context, servers on that service would die when all players left. Well he of course had to stop for the night, but his server still had people on, and the next day he logged back on to see the same server had still been going 24 hours later! Nonstop frags! His other stories about how people used Quake/MPlayer just as a way to simply hangout are also great, especially since some of it wasn't too different from when I modded with my friends in my teenage years ha!

It's amazing to think how there's still a handful of popular games today that have their engine rooted in Quake (or idTech rather). We all owe so much.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jun 23, 2021, 04:20
Wolfen
 
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Re: Out of the Blue Jun 23, 2021, 04:20
Jun 23, 2021, 04:20
 Wolfen
 
Beamer wrote on Jun 22, 2021, 22:14:
Wolfen wrote on Jun 22, 2021, 21:53:
Bishi wrote on Jun 22, 2021, 18:30:
Wolfen wrote on Jun 22, 2021, 17:48:
I still remember downloading qtest on some slow arse modem. Waiting hours for that thing to download. Then loading it up and me and my friends heads nearly exploding at how amazing that looked back then. The first level editor I saw... TED and having no clue what to do even though I had done Doom and Duke editing because my brain couldn't handle 3D editing yet. Then moving on to Worldcraft editor. I can't believe it's been 25 years.

Likewise. Quake was the first thing that made me buy a graphics card, i was completely hooked. Not sure if we've ever had a revolution like it in gaming. Also the first game I modded, same year, a whole new universe of potential and great tooling. I wish every game now had a great modding mentality!
To be honest the last 10 years have been so unexciting compared to 1995-2005

No kidding. Those modding days are so long gone now. Sure there are still folks modding doom and quake and other games from that era... but the scene was so ALIVE back then. Entire sites dedicated to the stuff. I really miss it.

People that would have been modders are now just making games. The tools are so much more accessible, as is distribution. We have so many more indie games now.

Yup. It's true. But I really miss the community we had back then. Hell I remember when blue was positing the april fools news and me (at qeradiant.com) and the other editor and editing sites were doing this circle of switching our editor names or some silly crap.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jun 23, 2021, 03:59
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Re: Out of the Blue Jun 23, 2021, 03:59
Jun 23, 2021, 03:59
 
Wolfen wrote on Jun 22, 2021, 21:53:
Bishi wrote on Jun 22, 2021, 18:30:
Wolfen wrote on Jun 22, 2021, 17:48:
I still remember downloading qtest on some slow arse modem. Waiting hours for that thing to download. Then loading it up and me and my friends heads nearly exploding at how amazing that looked back then. The first level editor I saw... TED and having no clue what to do even though I had done Doom and Duke editing because my brain couldn't handle 3D editing yet. Then moving on to Worldcraft editor. I can't believe it's been 25 years.

Likewise. Quake was the first thing that made me buy a graphics card, i was completely hooked. Not sure if we've ever had a revolution like it in gaming. Also the first game I modded, same year, a whole new universe of potential and great tooling. I wish every game now had a great modding mentality!
To be honest the last 10 years have been so unexciting compared to 1995-2005

No kidding. Those modding days are so long gone now. Sure there are still folks modding doom and quake and other games from that era... but the scene was so ALIVE back then. Entire sites dedicated to the stuff. I really miss it.

Bethesda games are the modern version of that, anyone playing vanilla Skyrim/Fallout3/NV/4 is doing those games a huge disservice
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Jun 23, 2021, 03:59
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Jun 23, 2021, 03:59
 
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jun 23, 2021, 01:27
Kxmode
 
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Re: Out of the Blue Jun 23, 2021, 01:27
Jun 23, 2021, 01:27
 Kxmode
 
Armengar wrote on Jun 22, 2021, 14:16:
i remember laughing at how bad windows 1 was vs TOS

Please excuse my dumb question but what is TOS?
"What is the most resilient parasite? Bacteria? A virus? An intestinal worm? An idea. Resilient... highly contagious. Once an idea has taken hold of the brain it is almost impossible to eradicate."
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jun 23, 2021, 01:01
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Jun 23, 2021, 01:01
 
Play Quake Arcane Dimensions solo campaign, be blown away again.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jun 23, 2021, 00:02
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Jun 23, 2021, 00:02
 
gradbot wrote on Jun 22, 2021, 16:57:
Just played some Quake. Wow, the speed is something else. I miss it.

I miss it...
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jun 22, 2021, 22:38
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Re: Out of the Blue Jun 22, 2021, 22:38
Jun 22, 2021, 22:38
 
Many of the games I played for significant amounts of time recently all have excellent modding. Minecraft, Factorio, Satisfactory, Oxygen Not Included.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jun 22, 2021, 22:14
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Re: Out of the Blue Jun 22, 2021, 22:14
Jun 22, 2021, 22:14
 
Wolfen wrote on Jun 22, 2021, 21:53:
Bishi wrote on Jun 22, 2021, 18:30:
Wolfen wrote on Jun 22, 2021, 17:48:
I still remember downloading qtest on some slow arse modem. Waiting hours for that thing to download. Then loading it up and me and my friends heads nearly exploding at how amazing that looked back then. The first level editor I saw... TED and having no clue what to do even though I had done Doom and Duke editing because my brain couldn't handle 3D editing yet. Then moving on to Worldcraft editor. I can't believe it's been 25 years.

Likewise. Quake was the first thing that made me buy a graphics card, i was completely hooked. Not sure if we've ever had a revolution like it in gaming. Also the first game I modded, same year, a whole new universe of potential and great tooling. I wish every game now had a great modding mentality!
To be honest the last 10 years have been so unexciting compared to 1995-2005

No kidding. Those modding days are so long gone now. Sure there are still folks modding doom and quake and other games from that era... but the scene was so ALIVE back then. Entire sites dedicated to the stuff. I really miss it.

People that would have been modders are now just making games. The tools are so much more accessible, as is distribution. We have so many more indie games now.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jun 22, 2021, 21:53
Wolfen
 
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Re: Out of the Blue Jun 22, 2021, 21:53
Jun 22, 2021, 21:53
 Wolfen
 
Bishi wrote on Jun 22, 2021, 18:30:
Wolfen wrote on Jun 22, 2021, 17:48:
I still remember downloading qtest on some slow arse modem. Waiting hours for that thing to download. Then loading it up and me and my friends heads nearly exploding at how amazing that looked back then. The first level editor I saw... TED and having no clue what to do even though I had done Doom and Duke editing because my brain couldn't handle 3D editing yet. Then moving on to Worldcraft editor. I can't believe it's been 25 years.

Likewise. Quake was the first thing that made me buy a graphics card, i was completely hooked. Not sure if we've ever had a revolution like it in gaming. Also the first game I modded, same year, a whole new universe of potential and great tooling. I wish every game now had a great modding mentality!
To be honest the last 10 years have been so unexciting compared to 1995-2005

No kidding. Those modding days are so long gone now. Sure there are still folks modding doom and quake and other games from that era... but the scene was so ALIVE back then. Entire sites dedicated to the stuff. I really miss it.
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Re: Quake
Jun 22, 2021, 21:19
Nucas
 
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Jun 22, 2021, 21:19
 Nucas
 
fakespyder wrote on Jun 22, 2021, 19:08:
With the jumps in gaming technology in those years, it was an exciting time to live through that's for sure.

i miss the jumps in tech, and i really miss the wild west character of game development back then. i replay SiN periodically and always get a chuckle at seeing late 90s bluesnews.com on computer monitors in the bank level at the beginning - among all the pin up girl posters ripped out of magazines and other juvenile middle school humor, the developer's kids school photos, all the rest of that 1998 shit that you can't pull anymore.

ah maybe i'm just boomin'..
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Re: Out of the Blue
Jun 22, 2021, 19:58
Enahs
 
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Re: Out of the Blue Jun 22, 2021, 19:58
Jun 22, 2021, 19:58
 Enahs
 
Ya know Blue. A decent but cheap "flight stick" with lots of buttons could allow you to play a lot of games, especially older ones with simpler controls such as, I dunno, your name sake, or Decent, etc., or even simple flight simulator/dog fighting games. It is not to hard to just map them to keyboard buttons and work easily in DOSBox. And even if it is your non-dominate hand, getting the cheaper one could be fun way to make it more functional!
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