Out of the Blue

Well, the aftermath of my car accident ended up taking me to my primary care physician. Her offices are in a hospital, so it was easy enough to get an X-Ray done on my elbow. After wading through some red tape, at least. Turns out I have a "Minimally displaced radial head FX w/associated elbow effusion." This is to say there's a fracture in my elbow at the head of the radius. MrsBlue is 100% not surprised that it's broken simply because I was willing to go to the doctor. So the next step is to see an orthopedist today. It looks like this type of injury rarely involves surgery, so I'd cross my fingers if typing wasn't so tough already. A little research suggests that I may just end up in a splint for a few days. This would not be a boon to my typing either, but I'm not sure there are any perfect outcomes for me to expect here. I'll just have to see. I'm sorry about the disruptions this is causing. Hopefully things will work out quickly.

Also, I finally figured out why I ended up with burns from the airbag on my right hand and wrist, but a busted elbow on my left arm. It's because my right hand was on the horn in a futile attempt at a warning, leaving my left arm solely responsible for bracing for impact. The horn is the cover for the airbag, so it makes sense that my hand suffered a bit when it went off. I guess I'm lucky I didn't end up punching myself in the face. It's of little consequence, but I'm satisfied to have solved that minor mystery.

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Kxmode wrote on Jun 18, 2021, 12:25:
That's a solution, but it is not the solution. The fundamental issue is that most people are immoral. Until addressed, everything else is just a bandage, masking the underlining problem.

I wish you the best of luck fixing other people.
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Greentiger wrote on Jun 18, 2021, 07:08:
There is a real simple solution to theft like that for most stores.

Back in the day, like in the settlers day, stores basically had customers wait at the storefront, you handed them a list of what sundries you wanted and they got them for you. You paid your bill and got your *** out of the store. The only reason they went to the current model is so you'd impulse buy more crap. I've actually advocated returning to that model of storefront for decades now. Especially with internet and internet kiosks you could peruse at your leisure and get whatever specific item you wanted.

That's a solution, but it is not the solution. The fundamental issue is that most people are immoral. Until addressed, everything else is just a bandage, masking the underlining problem.
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There is a real simple solution to theft like that for most stores.

Back in the day, like in the settlers day, stores basically had customers wait at the storefront, you handed them a list of what sundries you wanted and they got them for you. You paid your bill and got your *** out of the store. The only reason they went to the current model is so you'd impulse buy more crap. I've actually advocated returning to that model of storefront for decades now. Especially with internet and internet kiosks you could peruse at your leisure and get whatever specific item you wanted.
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Cutter wrote on Jun 17, 2021, 21:14:
Because putting hands on them is assault. So no, there's nothing they can do beyond call the police - who obviously don't bother to show up.


It's not assault to attempt to regain stolen merchandise. It can be dangerous, which is why most companies tell their employees not to do it and hire third party security. Think of it like basketball....if you get the ball it ain't a foul. The thief literally put it all in a bag the guy could have easily grabbed. My point is that Walgreens is paying for security that will stand by and watch while Office Depot and Target are paying for security that will literally stop you at the door by force. Some Targets in my area have the ability to remotely lock the front doors these days. I know it's easy to believe that in SF a security guy would get rung up for assault....but we haven't put our heads that far up our collective asses. Not quite yet anyway. The dollar limit on misdemeanor vs felony theft and police response time literally has nothing to do with anything other than the ability to criminally charge the thief.

Another good example is Kaiser-Permanente. They do these flu shot clinics outside. We have just enough crazy weirdos in California that they have to hire security for those events because there is always some asshole who thinks breaking up the flu shot clinic is his true destiny as a superhero. In my two months it didn't happen often, C19 had come, but apparently it had become a problem leading up to that time. Anyway, those guys would throw a dude to the ground, pin an arm and hold them until police got there. A few times they just escorted them off the premises and that was that. The people being so manhandled usually only destroyed some hospital property, stole some needles, and delayed the lines. They rarely threatened staff. Not one assault charge or lawsuit. It just isn't a thing, but I can see why Walgreens and other companies that are facing bankruptcy and an inability to hire because their wages suck would want to not spend even more money on security.

I mean if there is a lawyer here who thinks I am wrong, I am here for it. As a voter here, this is my understanding of things though.

From my news feed this morning, local CBS:

Adam Gelb, director of the public safety performance project at The Pew Charitable Trusts, disputes those sorts of anecdotes.

“The vast majority of offenders just aren’t fine-tuning their behavior that way,” Gelb said.

His organization recently reported finding no effect on property crimes and larceny rates in 23 states that increased the threshold to charge thefts as felonies instead of misdemeanors between 2001 and 2011. California raised its threshold from $400 in 2010.

“It’s hard to see how raising the level to $950 in California would touch off a property crime wave when raising it to $2,000 in South Carolina six years ago hasn’t registered any impact at all,” Gelb said.

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Because putting hands on them is assault. So no, there's nothing they can do beyond call the police - who obviously don't bother to show up.
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Jun 17, 2021, 20:44
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Jun 17, 2021, 20:44
 Jivaro
 
Yeah, 47 sucks...but I am still not sure why a store security guard can't stop a person. Like I said, this isn't how the security in all of the stores in SF handles theft. What's the point in paying for a security guard who is just going to point a mobile phone at things? There is already building cameras inside and outside and every person on the planet is carrying a cell phone. That's really all I am questioning. I know 47 was not a well-thought out prop, unless the goal was to make more employment opportunities for off duty cops. Cause that is where this will go. These thieves will eventually walk in somewhere that went from mallcops to an Oakland beat cop making some extra money on his off days....and I just don't think it will go down this way.

edit: If you want a HUGE laugh, look up TS4 Security. That is the company Walgreens is using. I have my answer as to why that guard didn't do anything I think.
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Cutter wrote on Jun 17, 2021, 17:42:
Theft under $1000 in California is legal. That's why security guards can't do anything.

Non-violent theft under $950 is a misdemeanor, but please, explain how that influences Walgreens telling their employees not to intervene for their own safety.
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That failed heist video is FF & T.
Especially when the company man from the armored vehicle outfitter is sitting in the cab behind a damaged windscreen while his coworker takes a headshot at him using an assault weapon.
I had no idea how thick the "glass" was.
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Instead of a vanilla milkshake, we get plastic-flavored milkshake?
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Geez Blue, I don't check in for a couple of days and all hell breaks loose. Really sorry to hear about the accident. Obviously, it could have been much worse, but still, it's going to be such a pain in the ass (and limbs), and will take up much of your time over the next month or so. Hopefully you'll heal up quick and not have too much trouble transportation-wise.
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Republicans in Florida heard that Texas was pulling ahead in "the crazy" and decided to put a kibosh on it.
Florida Republican threatens to send a Russian-Ukrainian ‘hit squad’ after a fellow Florida Republican.

Texas responds: "You win this round but we won't go down without a fight."
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RIP Herb Tarlek.
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Simon Says wrote on Jun 17, 2021, 15:22:
First movie's plot and acting were more than fine. *shrugs*

Don't get me wrong, I loved the first movie and really enjoyed the combat work in the sequels, but they beat him up and kill his dog (terrible) and he basically ends up killing hundreds of people in response.

The entire series is just an excuse for gun battles. True, the acting wasn't really terrible at any point, arguably some of Keanu's best emoting at some spots, the supporting cast was all good. My mental picture of the series though is just a succession of better stunt pieces, not so much on the performances of the actors in the non-combat scenes.
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A long ways from the bad old days of the early 80s when I was working in a grocery store, my manager and I tackled and held a shoplifter until the cops showed up.
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Jivaro wrote on Jun 17, 2021, 16:34:
That is the least effective security guard in the history of security guards. In SF there isn't a law that says hired security can't do their job. I know that would be easy to believe about the supposed liberal bastion of the planet but that dude ain't paid to stand there and take cell phone pics. That isn't the job description. His response indicates to me that this is what he is specifically told to do at that site.

Walgreens shouldn't be complaining about high theft if the thieves already know the security guards aren't going to do anything but stand there and film them. That article answers the questions about why it keeps happening.....Walgreens won't stop it. If that dude with the cart tried that at Office Depot on Geary Blvd just down the way, he would be stopped by security. Nice try to blame it on the city though.
Isn't the job desc "observe and report?"
I wonder what the CA specific laws are RE: security guards. It may be the case they are prohibited from physically interacting with lawbreakers.
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jdreyer wrote on Jun 17, 2021, 16:02:
Acleacius wrote on Jun 17, 2021, 14:00:
Speedy recovery Blue, glad your home safe!
Guess this is hardest on Mrs Blue cause all the sammiches and beer she will have to make, then deliver till your broken wing heals!
Hehe, think Blue gave me credit for RedEye9's China Space and him credit for my Donnie Yen.
I blame the opioids.

Norco is a hell of a drug.
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 Jivaro
 
That is the least effective security guard in the history of security guards. In SF there isn't a law that says hired security can't do their job. I know that would be easy to believe about the supposed liberal bastion of the planet but that dude ain't paid to stand there and take cell phone pics. That isn't the job description. His response indicates to me that this is what he is specifically told to do at that site.

Walgreens shouldn't be complaining about high theft if the thieves already know the security guards aren't going to do anything but stand there and film them. That article answers the questions about why it keeps happening.....Walgreens won't stop it. If that dude with the cart tried that at Office Depot on Geary Blvd just down the way, he would be stopped by security. Nice try to blame it on the city though.
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Acleacius wrote on Jun 17, 2021, 14:00:
Speedy recovery Blue, glad your home safe!
Guess this is hardest on Mrs Blue cause all the sammiches and beer she will have to make, then deliver till your broken wing heals!
Hehe, think Blue gave me credit for RedEye9's China Space and him credit for my Donnie Yen.
I blame the opioids.
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