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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Jun 10, 2021, 22:24
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RedEye9 wrote on Jun 9, 2021, 21:57:
jdreyer wrote on Jun 9, 2021, 21:43:
Simon Says wrote on Jun 9, 2021, 19:47:
jdreyer wrote on Jun 9, 2021, 19:42:
If you use your electricity for grow lights for your opium poppies, cut off electricity.
If you use your water for watering your opium poppies, cut off your water.

Makes sense.

So now downloading data is like drug trafficking? What? LOL
To the record labels, it's worse.
All the coffee shops w/free Wi-Fi and the library carry multiple doses of Musixone, not to be confused with Naloxone. For those that overdose on pirated tunes. It's gotten so bad that some require multiple doses.

The above is extremely sick and insensitve humor. If you've been affected by the opioid epidemic support legislation that will permanently bankrupt and imprison the Sacklers and others of their ilk who made billions marketing and promoting poison.


Nice ones Red & Jd, nice ones. Laugh Laugh
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Jun 10, 2021, 13:11
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Jonjonz wrote on Jun 10, 2021, 06:40:
The fact they can accuse anyone without any recourse, and without any factual evidence is absurd. If this flies in our current judicial system, it is really borked.

Nah, it's just an indication that we live in a corporatocracy: a government that does favors corporations over individuals.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Jun 10, 2021, 08:42
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs Jun 10, 2021, 08:42
Jun 10, 2021, 08:42
 
Jonjonz wrote on Jun 10, 2021, 06:40:
The fact they can accuse anyone without any recourse, and without any factual evidence is absurd. If this flies in our current judicial system, it is really borked.
Well, we don't know they are doing that... we just haven't been told what the evidence is...
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Jun 10, 2021, 06:40
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs Jun 10, 2021, 06:40
Jun 10, 2021, 06:40
 
The fact they can accuse anyone without any recourse, and without any factual evidence is absurd. If this flies in our current judicial system, it is really borked.
"Meet the new Boss, same as the old Boss." - The Who.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Jun 9, 2021, 23:55
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs Jun 9, 2021, 23:55
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A historically relevant YT video on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUm6no5MXYA
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Jun 9, 2021, 21:57
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs Jun 9, 2021, 21:57
Jun 9, 2021, 21:57
 
jdreyer wrote on Jun 9, 2021, 21:43:
Simon Says wrote on Jun 9, 2021, 19:47:
jdreyer wrote on Jun 9, 2021, 19:42:
If you use your electricity for grow lights for your opium poppies, cut off electricity.
If you use your water for watering your opium poppies, cut off your water.

Makes sense.

So now downloading data is like drug trafficking? What? LOL
To the record labels, it's worse.
All the coffee shops w/free Wi-Fi and the library carry multiple doses of Musixone, not to be confused with Naloxone. For those that overdose on pirated tunes. It's gotten so bad that some require multiple doses.

The above is extremely sick and insensitve humor. If you've been affected by the opioid epidemic support legislation that will permanently bankrupt and imprison the Sacklers and others of their ilk who made billions marketing and promoting poison.
- I refer to it as BC, Before Corona, and AD, After Disaster. -
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Jun 9, 2021, 21:43
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs Jun 9, 2021, 21:43
Jun 9, 2021, 21:43
 
Simon Says wrote on Jun 9, 2021, 19:47:
jdreyer wrote on Jun 9, 2021, 19:42:
If you use your electricity for grow lights for your opium poppies, cut off electricity.
If you use your water for watering your opium poppies, cut off your water.

Makes sense.

So now downloading data is like drug trafficking? What? LOL
To the record labels, it's worse.
'I am' is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that 'I do' is the longest sentence? - GC
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Jun 9, 2021, 21:34
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Jun 9, 2021, 21:34
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 9, 2021, 20:38:
Simon Says wrote on Jun 9, 2021, 19:46:
$300k in "damages/lost sales" per download?
While the fine amount is excessive it wouldn't be sufficient to assess the $2.99 per download (or whatever) they might have gotten. Lawyers aren't cheap so high fines are required to make it reasonable to go after these offenses. But as I previously implied, I am concerned about the quality of the "proof" of these allegations... especially given there have been disconnections.

Indeed, it seems all they need to do right now is fill a few DMCAs ( is that it in the US? ) without any due process.

If they can't prove it in court beyond the shadow of a doubt to the jury's/judge's satisfaction, then too bad.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Jun 9, 2021, 20:38
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Jun 9, 2021, 20:38
 
Simon Says wrote on Jun 9, 2021, 19:46:
$300k in "damages/lost sales" per download?
While the fine amount is excessive it wouldn't be sufficient to assess the $2.99 per download (or whatever) they might have gotten. Lawyers aren't cheap so high fines are required to make it reasonable to go after these offenses. But as I previously implied, I am concerned about the quality of the "proof" of these allegations... especially given there have been disconnections.
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Jun 9, 2021, 20:24
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Jun 9, 2021, 20:24
 
Simon Says wrote on Jun 9, 2021, 19:46:

Who else thinks those labels have been too far gone for a while now?

I mean 2 ALLEGED offenses and you cut an, now more vital than ever, utility outright?

Would you cut water? Gas? Electricity? For something akin to, how much is a song worth even on a CD album where you pay premium? 1-2$? So as low as alleged 2 offenses, meaning 2 songs, 4, maybe 5$ total and you would cut a utility? How retarded is that?

$300k in "damages/lost sales" per download?

Even if competition was super healthy in the states with 10+ options at every home. It's still retarded.

Welcome to the corporatocracy that is America.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Jun 9, 2021, 20:12
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Jun 9, 2021, 20:12
 
Did I miss it or is there nothing in the article about what the evidence is of these supposed copyright violations? I see a lot of accusations, but no description of the proof of those accusations. In principal, I have no issue with cutting someone's Internet access if they are in fact "using peer-to-peer ('P2P') networks to infringe". However, I'm concerned the major record labels definition of repeat violations might be a bit fuzzy and there are actually "innocent" people being impacted. Given Frontier says it has "terminated many customers about whom copyright owners have complained" makes me want to know how the two sides are differentiating where the line is...
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Jun 9, 2021, 19:47
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs Jun 9, 2021, 19:47
Jun 9, 2021, 19:47
 
jdreyer wrote on Jun 9, 2021, 19:42:
If you use your electricity for grow lights for your opium poppies, cut off electricity.
If you use your water for watering your opium poppies, cut off your water.

Makes sense.

So now downloading data is like drug trafficking? What? LOL
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Jun 9, 2021, 19:46
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs Jun 9, 2021, 19:46
Jun 9, 2021, 19:46
 

Who else thinks those labels have been too far gone for a while now?

I mean 2 ALLEGED offenses and you cut an, now more vital than ever, utility outright?

Would you cut water? Gas? Electricity? For something akin to, how much is a song worth even on a CD album where you pay premium? 1-2$? So as low as alleged 2 offenses, meaning 2 songs, 4, maybe 5$ total and you would cut a utility? How retarded is that?

$300k in "damages/lost sales" per download?

Even if competition was super healthy in the states with 10+ options at every home. It's still retarded.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
Jun 9, 2021, 19:42
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs Jun 9, 2021, 19:42
Jun 9, 2021, 19:42
 
If you use your electricity for grow lights for your opium poppies, cut off electricity.
If you use your water for watering your opium poppies, cut off your water.

Makes sense.
'I am' is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that 'I do' is the longest sentence? - GC
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