PHJF wrote on May 28, 2021, 08:38:

Burrito of Peace wrote on May 27, 2021, 22:25:

PHJF wrote on May 27, 2021, 15:11:
Yeah because installing drivers via a command line is a lot easier than clicking a .exe? I had a *massive* two-hour headache trying to install a wifi dongle driver onto an unconnected Linux box.

Broadcom?

Yeah, it was. Every "guide" for installing device drivers basically says "just open a terminal and type in sudo package install www.package.com/driver" or some such... which is kind of fucking hard to do when the device you are trying to install is a network adapter.

Knew it. Broadcom chipsets suck even on Windows and their drivers are only slightly better than Qualcomm's Atheros garbage.

That's a fair point, however. I will say that, today, most mainline distros (Not you, Fedora. Sit down.) provide the drivers for a lot of mainstream hardware out of the box. Ubuntu, Mint, and Manjaro spring to mind with the "broadcom-wl" or "b43" packages. There might be some chipsets that fall outside the scope of support for those packages but they, the chipsets, would be fairly esoteric.

The flip side is that randomly clicking executables holds an inherent security risk whereas a properly maintained official repo acts as a better curated and more secure download location. On top of that, with a package, I can choose not to install garbage apps that are bundled in to executables like "helper" apps. Just give me the firmware and drivers, thanks. I don't need whatever app some developer paid a third world code monkey five bucks to build shitting in my tray.

Burrito of Peace wrote on May 27, 2021, 22:25:

PHJF wrote on May 27, 2021, 15:11:
Yeah because installing drivers via a command line is a lot easier than clicking a .exe? I had a *massive* two-hour headache trying to install a wifi dongle driver onto an unconnected Linux box.

Broadcom?

Yeah, it was. Every "guide" for installing device drivers basically says "just open a terminal and type in sudo package install www.package.com/driver" or some such... which is kind of fucking hard to do when the device you are trying to install is a network adapter.

Welp, time for me to head on down to the local Goodwill and buy all the CRT's I'm sure they still have. Hell, I bought a 21 inch CRT back in day that was almost immaculate and it cost me a grand total of... 60 bucks. I LOVE GOODWILL! 😍

PHJF wrote on May 27, 2021, 15:11:
Yeah because installing drivers via a command line is a lot easier than clicking a .exe? I had a *massive* two-hour headache trying to install a wifi dongle driver onto an unconnected Linux box.

Broadcom?

The Flying Penguin wrote on May 27, 2021, 10:24:
Holy crap. I didn't totally believe that article until I went to Ebay and looked up prices. It's not just regular TVs for playing on consoles. VGA monitors are also selling for what they cost originally or more. Premium (in their day) good quality NEC and Samsung multisync flat tube monitors are selling for $350. Even crappy monitors are selling for $100.

A pc CRT is the best way to play Quake and Counter-Strike

Yeah because installing drivers via a command line is a lot easier than clicking a .exe? I had a *massive* two-hour headache trying to install a wifi dongle driver onto an unconnected Linux box.

"Windows 10 gets a speedy new package manager"

There will be no security issues there. No, not at all. Windows is pretty solid when it comes to viruses and malware

Holy crap. I didn't totally believe that article until I went to Ebay and looked up prices. It's not just regular TVs for playing on consoles. VGA monitors are also selling for what they cost originally or more. Premium (in their day) good quality NEC and Samsung multisync flat tube monitors are selling for $350. Even crappy monitors are selling for $100.

Oh, look, more 20 year old technology that Windows is cribbing from Linux.

Just spin Windows as a Linux distro and get it done already.