Out of the Blue

One of the things I find odd about having moved to what I'll have to admit is "the country" is the generally lax approach to vehicle laws in rural areas. I was always aware that you'll basically never run into speed traps on back roads, and the average speed in most places is well above the limit. But there's also the unnerving phenomenon of young boys riding offroad dirt bikes on road. It's not like they're subtle about it, as they go faster than most of the speeders, and those bikes are freaking loud! Anyway, long after assuming the local authorities just didn't care, I saw a local story saying a large bunch of these bikes have been impounded after some sort of crackdown. I hope it has an effect. Unlicensed, uninsured children speeding around on public roads on unregistered dirt bikes seems like a recipe for disaster.

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Re: Out of the Blue
May 27, 2021, 00:21
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Re: Out of the Blue May 27, 2021, 00:21
May 27, 2021, 00:21
 
jdreyer wrote on May 26, 2021, 21:54:
RedEye9 wrote on May 26, 2021, 18:04:
You joke
But make your mailbox anything other than what the Federal Highway Administration recommends and prepare to be sued should someone get injured. https://www.usps.com/manage/mailboxes.htm
https://www.curbsidexpressions.com/home/en/mailbox-nightmares

Aw, the government is actually watching out for those idiot drivers:

Installing the Mailbox Post
The best mailbox supports are stable but bend or fall away if a car hits them. The Federal Highway Administration recommends:
A 4″ x 4″ wooden support or a 2″-diameter standard steel or aluminum pipe.
Avoid unyielding and potentially dangerous supports, like heavy metal pipes, concrete posts, and farm equipment (e.g., milk cans filled with concrete).
Bury your post no more than 24″ deep.

Yeah, I got mixed feelings on that one. In a neighborhood, a brick mailbox won't kill you if you have an accident and hit it, unless you're excessively speeding, then you're asking for it. However, out on rural roads that have faster speed limits on them, I can see how it could be a safety issue.
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Re: Out of the Blue
May 26, 2021, 21:54
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Re: Out of the Blue May 26, 2021, 21:54
May 26, 2021, 21:54
 
RedEye9 wrote on May 26, 2021, 18:04:
You joke
But make your mailbox anything other than what the Federal Highway Administration recommends and prepare to be sued should someone get injured. https://www.usps.com/manage/mailboxes.htm
https://www.curbsidexpressions.com/home/en/mailbox-nightmares

Aw, the government is actually watching out for those idiot drivers:

Installing the Mailbox Post
The best mailbox supports are stable but bend or fall away if a car hits them. The Federal Highway Administration recommends:
A 4″ x 4″ wooden support or a 2″-diameter standard steel or aluminum pipe.
Avoid unyielding and potentially dangerous supports, like heavy metal pipes, concrete posts, and farm equipment (e.g., milk cans filled with concrete).
Bury your post no more than 24″ deep.
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Re: Out of the Blue
May 26, 2021, 21:00
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Re: Out of the Blue May 26, 2021, 21:00
May 26, 2021, 21:00
 
The Flying Penguin wrote on May 26, 2021, 12:49:
Not a month goes by where someone hits a puddle at high speed and loses control, or swerves while texting and runs into a tree.

Mailboxes around here have lifespans measured in months.

You don't bicycle on the road unless you have a death wish.

Strange... same behavior, more or less, vastly different results around here. Lots of people ride bicycles here, in 20 years, only 1 person got injured and it wasn't even on the dirt road.

People losing control or getting into a ditch is also a rarity. As for mailboxes, I never saw a single one that was hit by a car/motorcycle/ATV/whatever.

Very strange...
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Re: Out of the Blue
May 26, 2021, 19:40
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Re: Out of the Blue May 26, 2021, 19:40
May 26, 2021, 19:40
 
RedEye9 wrote on May 26, 2021, 18:04:
jdreyer wrote on May 26, 2021, 15:53:
The Flying Penguin wrote on May 26, 2021, 12:49:
I live in a rural area as well. Lot's of ATVs (horse riders too), but usually they drive on the side of the road or on dirt roads.

My biggest issue is a lot of the main rural roads here, including the one in front of my house, have no shoulders, no drainage, and a 45 MPH speed limit. Realistically everyone drives at 50 MPH, and many drive at 60 or more. Not a month goes by where someone hits a puddle at high speed and loses control, or swerves while texting and runs into a tree.

Mailboxes around here have lifespans measured in months.

You don't bicycle on the road unless you have a death wish.
Make your mailbox post out of reinforced concrete and bury it 10 feet down. That will keep it upright.

I hear you about the bicycle riding. There's a mountain I used to run up, but the twisty road is narrow with no shoulder, and I was almost hit several times. More than one pedestrian and cyclist has been killed riding there. Now I stick to the sidewalks in the suburbs, and do my hill work on the driveway of a local park. It's a good 200 meter hill, so I do sets.
You joke
But make your mailbox anything other than what the Federal Highway Administration recommends and prepare to be sued should someone get injured. https://www.usps.com/manage/mailboxes.htm
https://www.curbsidexpressions.com/home/en/mailbox-nightmares


That is hillarious and I don't mean in a good way

Because.. here in Germany, the most regulated country on the PLANET, you .. mount your mail-box wherever the hell you want on YOUR premises and everything else ain't your problem. You are not responsible for road safety here, as long as you put your mailbox or whatever you wanna use (we just use wall mounted mail-boxes usually) not on the road and in easy reach.

And you are completely allowed to build a 50feet thick steel-concrete wall on your premises to support a mailbox that does not span into the public walk-way.... Can not believe the US is more borked on this than Germany.. wow

Sidenote: You are responsible for walk-way safety though but municipal decisions can override any logic of that when they put giant steel lamp-posts every 20m.. right in the middle of the walkways... so yay. Needless to say, nobody on this road EVER crashed anything. Which is logical, at the bottom of the hill is one of the *WORST* historic stone roads ever made and you have to basically carry your car over it or risk damage.... eh.. and yeah, that road is protected, we can't get it fixed (believe me, we tried, we even had the financing already planned out) ... argh.

This comment was edited on May 26, 2021, 19:52.
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Re: Out of the Blue
May 26, 2021, 18:04
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May 26, 2021, 18:04
 
jdreyer wrote on May 26, 2021, 15:53:
The Flying Penguin wrote on May 26, 2021, 12:49:
I live in a rural area as well. Lot's of ATVs (horse riders too), but usually they drive on the side of the road or on dirt roads.

My biggest issue is a lot of the main rural roads here, including the one in front of my house, have no shoulders, no drainage, and a 45 MPH speed limit. Realistically everyone drives at 50 MPH, and many drive at 60 or more. Not a month goes by where someone hits a puddle at high speed and loses control, or swerves while texting and runs into a tree.

Mailboxes around here have lifespans measured in months.

You don't bicycle on the road unless you have a death wish.
Make your mailbox post out of reinforced concrete and bury it 10 feet down. That will keep it upright.

I hear you about the bicycle riding. There's a mountain I used to run up, but the twisty road is narrow with no shoulder, and I was almost hit several times. More than one pedestrian and cyclist has been killed riding there. Now I stick to the sidewalks in the suburbs, and do my hill work on the driveway of a local park. It's a good 200 meter hill, so I do sets.
You joke
But make your mailbox anything other than what the Federal Highway Administration recommends and prepare to be sued should someone get injured. https://www.usps.com/manage/mailboxes.htm
https://www.curbsidexpressions.com/home/en/mailbox-nightmares
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Re: Out of the Blue
May 26, 2021, 15:53
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Re: Out of the Blue May 26, 2021, 15:53
May 26, 2021, 15:53
 
The Flying Penguin wrote on May 26, 2021, 12:49:
I live in a rural area as well. Lot's of ATVs (horse riders too), but usually they drive on the side of the road or on dirt roads.

My biggest issue is a lot of the main rural roads here, including the one in front of my house, have no shoulders, no drainage, and a 45 MPH speed limit. Realistically everyone drives at 50 MPH, and many drive at 60 or more. Not a month goes by where someone hits a puddle at high speed and loses control, or swerves while texting and runs into a tree.

Mailboxes around here have lifespans measured in months.

You don't bicycle on the road unless you have a death wish.
Make your mailbox post out of reinforced concrete and bury it 10 feet down. That will keep it upright.

I hear you about the bicycle riding. There's a mountain I used to run up, but the twisty road is narrow with no shoulder, and I was almost hit several times. More than one pedestrian and cyclist has been killed riding there. Now I stick to the sidewalks in the suburbs, and do my hill work on the driveway of a local park. It's a good 200 meter hill, so I do sets.
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May 26, 2021, 15:47
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May 26, 2021, 15:47
 
Simon Says wrote on May 25, 2021, 21:49:
jdreyer wrote on May 25, 2021, 18:59:
GUNPOWDER MILKSHAKE Official Trailer (2021) Karen Gillan.

That's quite the cast. Looks like a John Wick clone. Which isn't a bad thing.

At first glance, looks like it'll be to John Wick what the latest Ghostbusters was to the old Ghostbusters... Or worse.

That Mary "strong woman" Sue trope is getting old.

Don't misunderstand me, I have feminist ( not feminazis or TERFs or whatever ) friends who know they can count on me as an ally, but this kind of movie playing the identity card... Nope.
I don't think the problems with the new GB movie had anything to do with the fact that the cast was all women. The script was terrible, and the movie was miscast excepting Kate McKinnon (and maybe Leslie Jones).
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Re: Out of the Blue
May 26, 2021, 12:49
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Re: Out of the Blue May 26, 2021, 12:49
May 26, 2021, 12:49
 
I live in a rural area as well. Lot's of ATVs (horse riders too), but usually they drive on the side of the road or on dirt roads.

My biggest issue is a lot of the main rural roads here, including the one in front of my house, have no shoulders, no drainage, and a 45 MPH speed limit. Realistically everyone drives at 50 MPH, and many drive at 60 or more. Not a month goes by where someone hits a puddle at high speed and loses control, or swerves while texting and runs into a tree.

Mailboxes around here have lifespans measured in months.

You don't bicycle on the road unless you have a death wish.

This comment was edited on May 26, 2021, 13:23.
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May 26, 2021, 10:09
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May 26, 2021, 10:09
 
MeanJim wrote on May 26, 2021, 09:01:
Cutter wrote on May 25, 2021, 13:51:
I'll still never understand how Harley's are legal. They've probably destroyed more hearing than anything else in cities. They so need to be illegal or get proper fucking mufflers on them. Anyone who rides one of those loud POS seriously need to die in a fire.
You do know, just like any other obnoxiously loud vehicle, they don't come from the factory/dealer like that?
Actually, I didn't know that. I figured it was part of their marketing. I guess I just don't notice Harley's which aren't obnoxiously loud? I'm guessing that's why so many are loud, so I notice them.
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May 26, 2021, 09:42
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May 26, 2021, 09:42
 
The town I live in installed red light camera's some years back. I figured the rate of rear end collisions would sky rocket and they would eventually be removed. Nope the cause of them being shutdown was the cost of them being maintained. They were costing more than they we getting back in ticket fees. Never understood why not charge more for tickets but whatever.
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May 26, 2021, 09:01
 
Cutter wrote on May 25, 2021, 13:51:
I'll still never understand how Harley's are legal. They've probably destroyed more hearing than anything else in cities. They so need to be illegal or get proper fucking mufflers on them. Anyone who rides one of those loud POS seriously need to die in a fire.

You do know, just like any other obnoxiously loud vehicle, they don't come from the factory/dealer like that?
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May 25, 2021, 22:39
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May 25, 2021, 22:39
 
jdreyer wrote on May 25, 2021, 18:59:
GUNPOWDER MILKSHAKE Official Trailer (2021) Karen Gillan.

That's quite the cast. Looks like a John Wick clone. Which isn't a bad thing.
I was getting glimpses of Hotel Artemis but this looks 48% better.
And it has mom humor.
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May 25, 2021, 22:26
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May 25, 2021, 22:26
 
Mr. Tact wrote on May 25, 2021, 15:02:
While I agree with Cutter's sentiment on red light cameras -- there are issues with civilian company involvement in law enforcement. I'm not certain if I'm just paying more attention these days, or more easily annoyed, but the regularity with which I see people running red lights seems to have gone up in recent years. I'm starting to get into the habit of looking both ways before pulling out when the light turns green...

saw a t-bone accident happen right in front of me about a year ago. the people that got the green did just that - they waited several extra seconds. and still got t-boned. hard too. the dumbass chick in the merc missed that light by a good 5 seconds; didn't even slow down. no one was seriously hurt - i saw everyone get out, but damn i wanted to pull over and scream at her
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May 25, 2021, 21:49
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May 25, 2021, 21:49
 
jdreyer wrote on May 25, 2021, 18:59:
GUNPOWDER MILKSHAKE Official Trailer (2021) Karen Gillan.

That's quite the cast. Looks like a John Wick clone. Which isn't a bad thing.

At first glance, looks like it'll be to John Wick what the latest Ghostbusters was to the old Ghostbusters... Or worse.

That Mary "strong woman" Sue trope is getting old.

Don't misunderstand me, I have feminist ( not feminazis or TERFs or whatever ) friends who know they can count on me as an ally, but this kind of movie playing the identity card... Nope.
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May 25, 2021, 20:53
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May 25, 2021, 20:53
 
Russians weaponize cabin fever. Go figure.
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Re: Out of the Blue
May 25, 2021, 18:59
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May 25, 2021, 18:59
 
GUNPOWDER MILKSHAKE Official Trailer (2021) Karen Gillan.

That's quite the cast. Looks like a John Wick clone. Which isn't a bad thing.
I'm a smoldering volcano of virility. At least, that's what I tell myself.
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Re: Out of the Blue
May 25, 2021, 15:02
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May 25, 2021, 15:02
 
While I agree with Cutter's sentiment on red light cameras -- there are issues with civilian company involvement in law enforcement. I'm not certain if I'm just paying more attention these days, or more easily annoyed, but the regularity with which I see people running red lights seems to have gone up in recent years. I'm starting to get into the habit of looking both ways before pulling out when the light turns green...
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May 25, 2021, 14:10
Jim
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eh the russian slappers video..... did not have the big bears in it. those guys regularly knock people out
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May 25, 2021, 13:56
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May 25, 2021, 13:56
 
We're finally getting speed and red light cameras around here and it can't come to soon. Before the last lockdown started I overheard some clown in a pub bitching about how he's got 3 tickets from the speed cameras already and is in danger of losing his license. No shit, Sherlock, why do you think they're there in the first place? It certainly put a big ol' smile on my face. Bring it on, man. Put them up everywhere and start yanking licenses by the thousands.

As I spend a good deal of time driving in the country I don't see much in the way of dirt bikes but there's zero shortage of assholes in their pickups bombing around like it's the Indy 500. Get the cameras out there too. Hell, get automated drones patrolling and ticketing. Get them off the roads. The real danger out here is the fucking dump trucks doing gravel hauls. Those motherfuckers have already killed several people on country roads in the last several years alone. That sort of criminal negligence should be life in prison automatically. All the companies that employ or contract them should have to have speed limiters and trackers in those vehicles. When it comes to the automotive world I'm all for Big Brother being all over it.


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May 25, 2021, 13:53
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May 25, 2021, 13:53
 
The only reality TV my wife enjoys is North Woods Law, which is almost entirely game wardens dealing with young kids riding off-road vehicles where they shouldn't. I'd like to hope that more areas have game wardens that care that much.
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