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Sigwolf wrote on May 7, 2021, 22:57:
...and just had to sell it out to IGN and make a big profit for himself. Steam made him do it.
I mean, yeah? If he had bills to pay and his store wasn't making enough money or was even running at a loss, pretty much because neither he nor anybody else can compete against Steam, sort of means Steam made him do it. That Humble Bundle ended up in the hands of such a great company like IGN (and we're already seeing its effects...) is an unsurprising shame.

Tenshinochi wrote on May 8, 2021, 04:52:
Maybe because the alternative this 'free market' leads to is more like Amazon. Where a single company uses it's billions to stifle competition in an attempt to become the monopoly. This by for example selling products at a loss, something Epic has already hinted at to be willing to do and has to some extend already done this through a sale without consent from the devs where the explanation was that Epic would still pay the full price revenue to the devs.
While you claim Steam is the defacto monopoly, the price deal provides air to competition, we've seen plenty of other stores pop up like GOG, greenman gaming, humble store, Epic store. It allows stores to differentiate themselves on service level instead of trying to stifle competition, which in my opinion is more of a free market.
Steam has been operating for so long with such a large audience that it already has all the features any consumer could think of wanting. The only differentiation the different stores can possibly have is either in what games they offeror in price.

The former means exclusives, and even EA, Ubisoft, MS, and ActiBlizzard, the only ones with the internal studios capable of pushing out more than a couple of games a year, with their own stores, and massive marketing power, have given up and accepted that Valve owns the market, selling their games on Steam and taking the hit. Epic is trying for this angle, but I think everyone can see how well that is going, between the massive financial loss and the absolute demonization from consumers.

The latter is just flat out forbidden by Valve; you allow your game's regular price lower price on another store other than it is on Steam, you get booted off Steam.

So, what can a competing platform do to differentiate itself on a service level? What feature can a competing store bring to the table that would actually attract new customers, and that Steam couldn't just copy before it would make an impact? You'd think GoG's DRM-free offering would be a knockout punch, yet it's clear consumers really don't care about it (nevermind publishers).

Tenshinochi wrote on May 8, 2021, 04:52:
Another reason is that people have a vested interest in certain stores due to the games they have bought on that store and where the license is stored on that store's servers. So if the store was to go under, people would possibly lose access to their games. This is a problem with how the stores have evolved. Even for GOG which offers DRM free copies of games, if you don't have the storage to store all of them, you're dependent on the store.
"Steam has taken the market hostage" is a pretty good argument against Steam and practically every other platform, really. Your toaster shouldn't stop working because the store you bought it from shut down, and the implicit threat of that happening shouldn't be what stops people from shopping elsewhere.


The Free Market is "free" and "fair" in the same sense as ye olde King of the Hill games were; once you're on top, the easier it is to stay on top, and no one can beat you 1v1.

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