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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
May 7, 2021, 19:33
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
May 5, 2021, 13:08
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robdot wrote on May 4, 2021, 09:48:
The very concept of inherited sin is immoral. The idea that you worship a god who sends people to hell for the deeds of their distant ancestors show how sick and twisted religion is.

robdot wrote on May 4, 2021, 09:48:
The very concept of inherited sin is immoral. The idea that you worship a god who sends people to hell for the deeds of their distant ancestors show how sick and twisted religion is.

Hellfire, or a place of eternal torment, is not in the Bible. The concept of a place where people go after they die to be tortured and burned for eternity for evil deeds originated with ancient Babylon. That, along with other pagan beliefs, spread throughout the earth after God confused the languages at the tower of Babel. The paganism practiced by the Romans was no less different. However, Constantine made Christianity Rome's state religion in the 4th century. After being given the position of the pagan-practicing priests, the Christian priests started incorporating aspects of Roman paganism. One of those was transforming Saturnalia (a festival to Saturn) into Christ Mass.

Here's what the Bible says happens when people die.

(Ecclesiastes 9:5,10) "The living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all . . . Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going."

Further, notice God's reaction to this dreadful pagan practice.

"'For the people of Judah have done what is bad in my eyes,' declares Jehovah. 'They have set up their disgusting idols in the house that bears my name to defile it. They have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom. To burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, something that I had not commanded and that had never even come into my heart.'" (Jeremiah 7:30,31)

A person might ask if burning sons and daughters in a fire had never come into God's heart, then how could God ever create a place that tortures and burns people for eternity? The obvious answer is he hasn't. God is love and justice, and sending people to such a people is neither loving nor just. Hellfire is a pagan belief and practice, and the churches of Christendom who teach it teach lies.

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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
May 5, 2021, 11:45
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Beamer wrote on May 4, 2021, 15:36:
Simon Says wrote on May 4, 2021, 12:11:

So for anywhere between 95% to 96.67% of Homo Sapiens history, we can safely affirm that for the vast majority of mankind rape wasn't even a concept we could imagine, far less commit and even less commit on children.

We can safely affirm absolutely nothing from society prior to written history, so much of what you're saying is speculation, and by no means as agreed upon as you state. In fact, a widely-published opinion is that males predisposed to rape were more successful 100k years ago because they were more likely to spread their genes. And another recent novel speculated that stone age man were basically all raping serial killers. As many of our closest ape relatives are.

I'm very much aware of that position, problem is that they're as you said, speculating.

They don't base their hypotheses on any firsthand observations of actual nomadic Neolithic lifestyles like the opposite position did with the remaining islands of 20th century nomadic Neolithic tribes and are mostly the remnants of the, dominant at the time, Victorian "we need to bring civilization/god/whatever to the savages" narrative used by anthropologists, religious organizations and imperialists/colonialists of the time who never observed anything and were mostly speculating based on hearsay from the explorers subjective and culturally colored perceptions.

Also of note is that at the time, anthropologists were not really applying the scientific method to the letter and used A LOT of leeway, this changed eventually with time. If current serious anthropologists acted the same way today, they'd be laughed out of the room.

They're not in "flat earth territory", but they have zero observations of the behaviors, thus their "evidence" is speculative at best. Quite unlike the hypotheses and theories explained below in my previous comment that are based on actual firsthand observations with solid applied scientific method studies and incomparably stronger evidence.

theglaze wrote on May 4, 2021, 14:14:
I appreciate detail and optimism of your post, Simon Says

It's just science.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
May 4, 2021, 17:44
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Beamer wrote on May 4, 2021, 15:36:
Simon Says wrote on May 4, 2021, 12:11:

So for anywhere between 95% to 96.67% of Homo Sapiens history, we can safely affirm that for the vast majority of mankind rape wasn't even a concept we could imagine, far less commit and even less commit on children.


We can safely affirm absolutely nothing from society prior to written history, so much of what you're saying is speculation, and by no means as agreed upon as you state. In fact, a widely-published opinion is that males predisposed to rape were more successful 100k years ago because they were more likely to spread their genes. And another recent novel speculated that stone age man were basically all raping serial killers. As many of our closest ape relatives are.


Considering we have neanderthal DNA in us (and the latter don' exist anymore) that novel is probably closer to the truth than we might like. And I doubt the concept of consent was present between 2 very different human species 100k to 250k years ago

Also FYI, the 400k number is total bull. Only 4000 active accounts were present on bust.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
May 4, 2021, 15:36
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Simon Says wrote on May 4, 2021, 12:11:

So for anywhere between 95% to 96.67% of Homo Sapiens history, we can safely affirm that for the vast majority of mankind rape wasn't even a concept we could imagine, far less commit and even less commit on children.


We can safely affirm absolutely nothing from society prior to written history, so much of what you're saying is speculation, and by no means as agreed upon as you state. In fact, a widely-published opinion is that males predisposed to rape were more successful 100k years ago because they were more likely to spread their genes. And another recent novel speculated that stone age man were basically all raping serial killers. As many of our closest ape relatives are.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
May 4, 2021, 14:14
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May 4, 2021, 14:14
 
I appreciate detail and optimism of your post, Simon Says
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
May 4, 2021, 13:04
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May 4, 2021, 13:04
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So for anywhere between 95% to 96.67% of Homo Sapiens history, we can safely affirm that for the vast majority of mankind rape wasn't even a concept we could imagine, far less commit and even less commit on children.

I really doubt they had a concept of "age of consent" either, and they were probably sexually active from puberty. So there was a lot of early Homo Sapiens fucking kids.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
May 4, 2021, 12:11
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theglaze wrote on May 4, 2021, 10:19:
Unfortunately child sexual abuse predates religion, and proves humans are just another animal in this kingdom.

The study of isolated tribes by anthropologists who still lived like our Neolithic ancestors with nomadic lifestyles up to recently has shown that all of them didn't even have a concept of rape, it was so completely alien to them that they couldn't even conceive of such a thing, much less children sexual abuse.

It has been found that the concept seems to appear and is correlated with the switch from the nomadic Neolithic lifestyles to more sedentary lifestyles.

Need I remind you that Homo Sapiens lived for 190k to 290k ( depending on archeological estimates, that's the broadest range ) years before agriculture and sedentary lifestyles popped up and have been there only fairly recently in our race's history, 10k years.

So for anywhere between 95% to 96.67% of Homo Sapiens history, we can safely affirm that for the vast majority of mankind rape wasn't even a concept we could imagine, far less commit and even less commit on children.

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Source? The dozens of books from foremost experts on anthropology in all the different competing "lines of study" on the subject that are required reading at the university as well as plenty others that aren't but all converged separately to the same conclusions from separate observations.

The most agreed upon hypothesis for the appearance of rape by the anthropologist community is that it's a result of nurture, not nature, most likely from cultural influences, among others.

Also observed is that the worse inequality is in a society, the higher the rate of rape on average. It is thus interesting to note that Neolithic nomadic tribes were as close to zero inequality as possible.

Fascinating isn't it?
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
May 4, 2021, 11:45
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robdot wrote on May 4, 2021, 09:48:
The very concept of inherited sin is immoral. The idea that you worship a god who sends people to hell for the deeds of their distant ancestors show how sick and twisted religion is.

Not to get into that debate, but what's interesting is that the more likely you are to believe in original sin, the less likely you are to believe in reparations, and vice versa. Not perfect, but still aligns fairly close.

Not saying anything about either, just interesting how you framed one to sound comparable to the other.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
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May 4, 2021, 10:19
 
Unfortunately child sexual abuse predates religion, and proves humans are just another animal in this kingdom.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
May 4, 2021, 09:48
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May 4, 2021, 09:48
 
The very concept of inherited sin is immoral. The idea that you worship a god who sends people to hell for the deeds of their distant ancestors show how sick and twisted religion is.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
May 4, 2021, 07:02
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Ever notice how when real pervs are caught bare handed with evidence of trafficking in child porn, the right wing loon jobs and Faux News totally ignore it, but let any corn job post a theory (with zero factual basis) that some Democrat is involved in child porn, and holy Jesus, the F*ckUbooks, Twatters, and Faux News scream it at the top of their lungs Ad Nauseam.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
May 4, 2021, 03:11
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As disgusting as this is, German officials have confirmed, that the number is hugely inflated. These users created a new account for every visit, but it is still staggering.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
May 4, 2021, 02:49
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Beamer wrote on May 3, 2021, 23:18:
Welp, that's two people bringing religion into this thread

Indeed. This is perpetrated by bad people, not people hiding behind an excuse. It is badness, plain and simple.

They need the book throwing at them, every single one of them.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
May 4, 2021, 00:27
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RedEye9 wrote on May 3, 2021, 22:59:
even bigger if you could determine what percentage of people over 18 had a device w/internet access

And much bigger if you consider this is just the number of people who managed to find this site on the dark web - and were then stupid enough to register on what was clearly an illegal site. If this is something even 0.01% of the human race is dealing with, at some point we're going to have to look to alternate methods of dealing with it, cause the current method seems about as effective as the "war on drugs."
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Welp, that's two people bringing religion into this thread
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
May 3, 2021, 22:59
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0.005%, that percentage is based on the total population, it would be bigger if only people over 18. <0.008%
And even bigger if you could determine what percentage of people over 18 had a device w/internet access.

Thankfully it's a very tiny portion of the population.
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
May 3, 2021, 22:35
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Re: Evening Legal Briefs
May 3, 2021, 22:30
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May 3, 2021, 22:30
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Gonna go out on a limb here and say demons probably aren't involved. Just humans.
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