jacobvandy wrote on Apr 2, 2021, 02:15:
HorrorScope wrote on Apr 1, 2021, 20:08:
While #1 is correct (I can see how others see all the cover though and think what they do), no one can say what kind of legs this game has yet. SolidFPS was running end game content last night. But the point I'm getting at is, will people want to run all the characters? Will people want to run end game for a good while to make it feel worth their money? It all depends, most of the looter shooters are okay enough up until that point then sort of fall off. We'll see. Won't be long to know.
Unless it bombs to Avengers level, I'll play this on a bit of a sale or if it comes to PC Gamepass.
I really don't give a shit how quickly some no-lifers are able to rush through a game. Not after long since hearing "you can beat it in like 6/8/10 hours, waste of money lololol" umpteen times about titles I enjoyed for ten times as long because apparently I don't see it as a race or feel the childish need to win that competition against everyone else. Well, that and I actually like to explore these virtual worlds, find the side quests and secret locations without relying on a guide, etc.
Anyone streaming the game day one especially has extreme pressure to progress quickly because one of the best ways to get viewers is to show parts of the game that few, if any, others are showing yet... Speaking of which, loads of streamers had more than 24 hours' early access to this game, some even longer than that to play privately before broadcasting. So "last night" could be after anywhere from 20-40+ hours of playtime for that guy you named.
And besides, what 'endgame' is or means to your gameplay varies pretty wildly between genres or even individual games within them. I could name a whole bunch of action-RPGs where merely completing the story marks the true beginning of long-term, repeatable play.
SolidFPS went into that doing his first stream, he says looter shooters are his thing, he knew by demo and by others number crunching what to do. He said there will always be someone smarter, willing to work harder to do things another thinks isn't possible in any sector, I agree. The point it some people are just better at certain things. He doesn't care about story, he's for making the best character possible and really that is a very big part of a looter shooter, the story comes and goes the ability to get better remains constant.
So I get that and your point, I'm always at best average, so everything will take me a lot longer and I'll have a character 1/2 as good as the best, that is fine.
But even for me it comes down to end game be it ng+ or a good loop of some kind. If the drops are there and I feel improvement, I'll keep going. Too many games sort of fall off here and if you are not building on your character in a looter shooter many will check out fast it becomes boring most of the time. So endgame is important for some longevity, I don't think the story here is going to carry it as being, wow I just played through the story, amazing, I got my $60 worth, can't wait for a sequel. I think when people get through the story they will want more. We'll see.