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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2021, 14:34
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Burrito of Peace wrote on Mar 26, 2021, 23:20:
I have said it before, and I will say it again.

ARM is the future of CPU architecture.

Gonna bet that comment is gonna age like fine milk.

100$ it'll be proved wrong in 10 years.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2021, 13:29
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Mar 27, 2021, 13:29
 
JeffD wrote on Mar 27, 2021, 10:51:
Are you seriouse. Who the hell cares what the retail package of a cpu looks like. The less the better.

My joke is that Intel's rehashing of 14nm architecture is perfectly encapsulated by the allegory of the retail packaging, which looks like a lost tissue box, partially crushed under a car seat, and containing tissues now crusty due to old age, but I guess still usable? That's how Intel is presenting its "new" flagship. Different tissue, same old 14nm silicone.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2021, 12:52
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phinn wrote on Mar 26, 2021, 23:28:
First of all this is just Passmark single threaded benchmark, impressive but not all that useful. Second it's just irrelevant if gaming/computers is a hobby because there is no home built PCs running M1s with RTX 3000 / whatever AMD is selling. I'm happy enough with my Ryzen 5800X. This should be a wakeup call though if they can get that kind of CPU perf/watt with no fan, very impressive in that regard, but irrelevant to someone like me. I'll stick with my ThinkPad Carbon laptop too for now.

For pretty much anyone with a productivity/hobby workload on a laptop, it doesn't make sense to get anything else. Gaming and Windrows centric workloads are pretty much the last strongholds left in that space. The M1 leaves them in the dust on everything else and it will only get better.

Work bought me a 13" M1 MBP and it's been a pleasure from start to finish. OS X is so much nicer to deal with than Windows and coming from a *nix background I was immediately comfortable with customization. The hardware fit and finish is fantastic. The battery life is amazing, I charge it once a week, sometimes twice if my use is heavy. The trackpad puts everything I've used on the PC to shame. I even like the silly touch bar because its programmable, I've got it kitted out for my compilation and debugging needs on a per app contextual basis. All of that and my usual usage, a bit of light gaming and I have yet to hear the fan or feel any heat. It's the laptop for people that hate laptops.

Intel is in some serious trouble if Apple can scale and market these things out of their usual niches. The M1 Air is a great value in particular.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2021, 11:16
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theglaze wrote on Mar 27, 2021, 03:36:
11th Gen Intel Core: Unmatched Overclocking, Game Performance.

Intel i9 retail packaging looks like a lost tissue box, salvaged from under a car seat. It's just perfect.
Yikes
What a big ugly box.
But it probably needs to be that way for the RGB.

Luckily it can reach speeds up to and has an up to % increase gen over gen.

At least the i5 and i7 boxes don't look like Dantes 3rd circle of hell.

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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2021, 10:51
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Mar 27, 2021, 10:51
 
Are you seriouse. Who the hell cares what the retail package of a cpu looks like. The less the better.

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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2021, 03:36
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 27, 2021, 03:36
Mar 27, 2021, 03:36
 
11th Gen Intel Core: Unmatched Overclocking, Game Performance.

Intel i9 retail packaging looks like a lost tissue box, salvaged from under a car seat. It's just perfect.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 26, 2021, 23:28
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 26, 2021, 23:28
Mar 26, 2021, 23:28
 
First of all this is just Passmark single threaded benchmark, impressive but not all that useful. Second it's just irrelevant if gaming/computers is a hobby because there is no home built PCs running M1s with RTX 3000 / whatever AMD is selling. I'm happy enough with my Ryzen 5800X. This should be a wakeup call though if they can get that kind of CPU perf/watt with no fan, very impressive in that regard, but irrelevant to someone like me. I'll stick with my ThinkPad Carbon laptop too for now.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 26, 2021, 23:20
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 26, 2021, 23:20
Mar 26, 2021, 23:20
 
I have said it before, and I will say it again.

ARM is the future of CPU architecture. We're in the nascent days of it in anything but a cell phone but it's already an impressive architecture. The Raspberry Pi, for example, has an enormous performance per dollar ratio. Apple is showing the next step in the chain with the M1.

Even on big iron, ARM is impressive. Here is a couple of benchmarks showing the Ampere Altra vs the newest Milan Epyc and Xeon SPs.

**Edited a line to make it more clear.**

This comment was edited on Mar 27, 2021, 09:23.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 26, 2021, 23:09
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Mar 26, 2021, 23:09
 
I bought an M1 Macbook air a few weeks back and even though I've been a Windows/PC/Android guy since the 80's I have zero regrets. It really is the best ultralight laptop of 2021 when it comes to price/performance. The trackpad and gestures are amazing too coming from the shit trackpads on Windows laptops. It never gets hot and has no fan. Anyway, I'll always be a Windows gamer but the M1 is something else...
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 26, 2021, 22:34
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 26, 2021, 22:34
Mar 26, 2021, 22:34
 
It's amazing that the first generation Apple CPU smokes AMD and Intel.
All the while using less power.
Can't wait to see what it can do a couple of gens from now.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 26, 2021, 21:59
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 26, 2021, 21:59
Mar 26, 2021, 21:59
 
No need for a rant, they are just wrong in all ways. It is not even close to a side by side benchmark. I don't like news articles that don't have a comments section to tell them how wrong they are. You end up with a publication that puts out shovelware grade articles.
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Mar 26, 2021, 20:21
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Mar 26, 2021, 20:21
 
Apple M1 destroys Intel and AMD in newly-released benchmarks.

And triggered rants in 3....2....1....
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