Steam Top 10

Try to contain your shock that Valheim once again occupies the top spot in Valve's list of the best-selling titles on Steam for last week:

  1. Valheim.
  2. Forza Horizon 4.
  3. Loop Hero.
  4. Valve Index VR Kit on Steam.
  5. Forza Horizon 4.
  6. 鬼谷八荒.
  7. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive - Operation Broken Fang.
  8. Middle-earth: Shadow of War Definitive Edition.
  9. Stronghold: Warlords.
  10. Metro Exodus - Gold Edition.
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Orogogus wrote on Mar 16, 2021, 04:01:
Quinn wrote on Mar 16, 2021, 03:02:
I have the Oculus Quest 2 for 350 bucks. I play my PC games completely wireless with high resolution, best graphics and 90hz refresh rate with zero latency, while my gaming PC does all the heavy lifting.
I have literally no clue why ppl would buy the Valve index or other VR set with the same 1000+ bucks price.
The Index is a tough sell now at its price. But since Oculus, HP and HTC are all "inside-out" headsets, the Index (and whatever Pimax has) is on top for controller tracking, able to maintain solid tracking behind and underneath the sight of the headset's field of view. The Quest 2 is supposed to be pretty good, but not quite at the same level. It wouldn't really matter a whole lot except that Beat Saber is still one of the biggest VR games, and runs into tracking issues more often than most other games. The Index also has an edge in refresh rate and field of view, but I don't think anyone normal is claiming that's worth $600 extra over the Quest 2. The Reverb G2 has about 36% more pixels than the Quest 2, so still a good buy for people heavily into sim VR.

Mostly I think people just don't like Facebook, especially with the requirement that you log in with your Facebook account. It just comes across as pointlessly cartoonish evil, like the banks or cable companies on South Park. They have a perfectly functional system for people who don't want to use Facebook login, but they're locking it out and eventually shutting it down because they can. They're just in the business of not giving people what they want. And if they catch you using a second account they'll ban it and take away all your purchases. It seems so stupid for no reason. Even as a Rift owner, I didn't like that they kept the Rift store exclusive to their own headset, and it seems like they're just going all-in on this trajectory. It seems like Valve's out of ideas, but at this point I'm more interested in seeing what Apple's got in store next year than in an affordable headset from Facebook.

Yeah it sucks that you need a Facebook account, but I can swallow it.
I literally have zero complaints about the hand tracking, actually, so I can't imagine anyone paying top dollar for an apparent improvement to it like you mention. I'm playing Beat Saber like a pro (which is what every amateur thinks while playing that game, which is why it's such a success ;P) and haven't had a single tracking issue.
And I play it while it streams from my PC, having my Quest 2 connected to a 5Ghz network with no other devices connected to it and some other tinkering that made this work. Zero latency. Zero visual downgrades. Playing games like Alyx completely wireless just adds so much more to an already amazing experience. 350 bucks. Facebook deserves a thank you for this one xP
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Re: Steam Top 10
Mar 16, 2021, 12:35
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Mar 16, 2021, 12:35
 
PHJF wrote on Mar 16, 2021, 08:02:
You think Apple is going to come out with an affordable headset?
No, not at all. But it might be interesting, and while Facebook has an affordable headset with a good feature set they've loaded it down with a lot of baggage.
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Mar 16, 2021, 08:02
PHJF
 
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Re: Steam Top 10 Mar 16, 2021, 08:02
Mar 16, 2021, 08:02
 PHJF
 
You think Apple is going to come out with an affordable headset?
Steam + PSN: PHJF
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Re: Steam Top 10
Mar 16, 2021, 04:01
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Re: Steam Top 10 Mar 16, 2021, 04:01
Mar 16, 2021, 04:01
 
Quinn wrote on Mar 16, 2021, 03:02:
I have the Oculus Quest 2 for 350 bucks. I play my PC games completely wireless with high resolution, best graphics and 90hz refresh rate with zero latency, while my gaming PC does all the heavy lifting.
I have literally no clue why ppl would buy the Valve index or other VR set with the same 1000+ bucks price.
The Index is a tough sell now at its price. But since Oculus, HP and HTC are all "inside-out" headsets, the Index (and whatever Pimax has) is on top for controller tracking, able to maintain solid tracking behind and underneath the sight of the headset's field of view. The Quest 2 is supposed to be pretty good, but not quite at the same level. It wouldn't really matter a whole lot except that Beat Saber is still one of the biggest VR games, and runs into tracking issues more often than most other games. The Index also has an edge in refresh rate and field of view, but I don't think anyone normal is claiming that's worth $600 extra over the Quest 2. The Reverb G2 has about 36% more pixels than the Quest 2, so still a good buy for people heavily into sim VR.

Mostly I think people just don't like Facebook, especially with the requirement that you log in with your Facebook account. It just comes across as pointlessly cartoonish evil, like the banks or cable companies on South Park. They have a perfectly functional system for people who don't want to use Facebook login, but they're locking it out and eventually shutting it down because they can. They're just in the business of not giving people what they want. And if they catch you using a second account they'll ban it and take away all your purchases. It seems so stupid for no reason. Even as a Rift owner, I didn't like that they kept the Rift store exclusive to their own headset, and it seems like they're just going all-in on this trajectory. It seems like Valve's out of ideas, but at this point I'm more interested in seeing what Apple's got in store next year than in an affordable headset from Facebook.
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Mar 16, 2021, 03:02
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Re: Steam Top 10 Mar 16, 2021, 03:02
Mar 16, 2021, 03:02
 
I have the Oculus Quest 2 for 350 bucks. I play my PC games completely wireless with high resolution, best graphics and 90hz refresh rate with zero latency, while my gaming PC does all the heavy lifting.
I have literally no clue why ppl would buy the Valve index or other VR set with the same 1000+ bucks price.
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Re: 鬼谷八荒.
Mar 16, 2021, 01:39
Kxmode
 
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Re: 鬼谷八荒. Mar 16, 2021, 01:39
Mar 16, 2021, 01:39
 Kxmode
 
"The Candy Machine in the House with Two Roofs plays Atari Games next to the Sword Display" is still selling like pancakes!
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Re: Steam Top 10
Mar 15, 2021, 19:41
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Saboth wrote on Mar 15, 2021, 08:51:
sauron wrote on Mar 14, 2021, 21:01:
I wish I could play this, but corrupting Middle Earth is really time-consuming. I have a brand new rig with a 3070 but have managed only 2 hours of RDR2 and 2 hours of Cyberpunk since mid-December. I feel like I should turn in my gamer card...

These days I feel like I buy games more than I play them. My wish list is about 200 games long, and I've got hundreds of games that I've bought but probably will never play, but I just keep buying them because they go on sale. I still like to game, but those days of 12-16 hour straight sessions seem to be long over.
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Re: Steam Top 10
Mar 15, 2021, 13:02
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PHJF wrote on Mar 14, 2021, 17:29:
See you on the other side. Valheim has a tendency to ruin lives in the short term.

Indeed.
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Re: Steam Top 10
Mar 15, 2021, 08:51
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Mar 15, 2021, 08:51
 
sauron wrote on Mar 14, 2021, 21:01:
I wish I could play this, but corrupting Middle Earth is really time-consuming. I have a brand new rig with a 3070 but have managed only 2 hours of RDR2 and 2 hours of Cyberpunk since mid-December. I feel like I should turn in my gamer card...

These days I feel like I buy games more than I play them. My wish list is about 200 games long, and I've got hundreds of games that I've bought but probably will never play, but I just keep buying them because they go on sale. I still like to game, but those days of 12-16 hour straight sessions seem to be long over.
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Mar 15, 2021, 02:57
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Mar 15, 2021, 02:57
 
Cutter wrote on Mar 14, 2021, 19:21:
OpticNerve wrote on Mar 14, 2021, 16:29:
Prez wrote on Mar 14, 2021, 16:12:
Side question: can anyone explain the relatively tiny download size?

Proc-gen (seeded) maps + low-res textures and low-poly models is probably why the game is relatively tiny in size. That isn't to say that the game is ugly. Due to the small dev size, I think that this "style" was done on purpose. The lighting, weather and fog effects are very atmospheric and beautiful though and makes exploration fun compared to most other survival games. Needless to say, it's very subjective on if people find the game good looking or not

Oh it's definitely ugly. It would have looked great 20 years ago, but not today.

I think it's up there with Sea of Theives in terms of technical art accomplishment, but I'm not saying you are wrong. For me it's amazing. I'd rather have that lighting, destructibility, view distance, density of forests, building detail and the amazing framerate than something that looks like cyberpunk and can barely render an interior scene with a few models properly on a decent rig.
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Mar 15, 2021, 02:56
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Re: Steam Top 10 Mar 15, 2021, 02:56
Mar 15, 2021, 02:56
 
The animation needs some work but otherwise the art direction makes up for the lower end graphics. Overall I like it.
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Re: Steam Top 10
Mar 14, 2021, 21:01
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Mar 14, 2021, 21:01
 
I wish I could play this, but corrupting Middle Earth is really time-consuming. I have a brand new rig with a 3070 but have managed only 2 hours of RDR2 and 2 hours of Cyberpunk since mid-December. I feel like I should turn in my gamer card...
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Re: Steam Top 10
Mar 14, 2021, 19:21
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Re: Steam Top 10 Mar 14, 2021, 19:21
Mar 14, 2021, 19:21
 
OpticNerve wrote on Mar 14, 2021, 16:29:
Prez wrote on Mar 14, 2021, 16:12:
Side question: can anyone explain the relatively tiny download size?

Proc-gen (seeded) maps + low-res textures and low-poly models is probably why the game is relatively tiny in size. That isn't to say that the game is ugly. Due to the small dev size, I think that this "style" was done on purpose. The lighting, weather and fog effects are very atmospheric and beautiful though and makes exploration fun compared to most other survival games. Needless to say, it's very subjective on if people find the game good looking or not

Oh it's definitely ugly. It would have looked great 20 years ago, but not today.
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Mar 14, 2021, 18:22
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Mar 14, 2021, 18:22
 
Picked up some of those older Metro games and can't understand how they still run like arse to this day, lol. Poorly optimized? I think so...
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Mar 14, 2021, 18:14
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Mar 14, 2021, 18:14
 
The procedual generation in valheim is really stunning, some of the best ive seen. The map easily rivals the designed map in Satisfactory, for instance. the borders between biomes are seamless, the weather effects are awesome..its not selling 5mill copies for no reason..
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Re: Steam Top 10
Mar 14, 2021, 17:29
PHJF
 
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Mar 14, 2021, 17:29
 PHJF
 
See you on the other side. Valheim has a tendency to ruin lives in the short term.
Steam + PSN: PHJF
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Re: Steam Top 10
Mar 14, 2021, 16:39
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Mar 14, 2021, 16:39
 
Beyond simply not being ugly, I don't really care too much about graphics. I was thinking something got crossed up in the download! Anyway thanks for the answers.
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Re: Steam Top 10
Mar 14, 2021, 16:29
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Prez wrote on Mar 14, 2021, 16:12:
Side question: can anyone explain the relatively tiny download size?

Proc-gen (seeded) maps + low-res textures and low-poly models is probably why the game is relatively tiny in size. That isn't to say that the game is ugly. Due to the small dev size, I think that this "style" was done on purpose. The lighting, weather and fog effects are very atmospheric and beautiful though and makes exploration fun compared to most other survival games. Needless to say, it's very subjective on if people find the game good looking or not
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Mar 14, 2021, 16:24
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Prez wrote on Mar 14, 2021, 16:12:
My son was nice enough to buy Valheim for me since we had so much fun playing Deep Rock Galactic together. So I guess the time to try it is now.

Side question: can anyone explain the relatively tiny download size?

The maps are procedurally-generated and the assets are low-res, so, same reasons why Minecraft is a tiny download.
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Mar 14, 2021, 16:12
 
My son was nice enough to buy Valheim for me since we had so much fun playing Deep Rock Galactic together. So I guess the time to try it is now.

Side question: can anyone explain the relatively tiny download size?
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