Kxmode wrote on Mar 9, 2021, 14:04:
Mr. Tact wrote on Mar 9, 2021, 07:49:
Kxmode wrote on Mar 9, 2021, 02:17:The Darmok episode is a fan and critic favorite. I like it too, but it does have serious problems.
And the episode, Darmok explains how nomenclature can render the UT useless. "The situation is analogous to understanding the grammar of a language, but none of the vocabulary," as Data puts it. Technically speaking, if the UT followed the rules, its use would be quite limited.
The concept of a language which uses metaphors as the major component is intriguing to say the least. I could see it being purposely developed as a formal or perhaps royal dialect. A way of speaking for special occasions. But the idea a race which builds and uses interstellar spaceships, which have communications, weapons, shields, matter transport, seemingly all the technology the Federation has and using such a language as their only communication is inconceivable. You can't discuss and design technology like that via metaphors. You can't measure wave frequency, mass, density, power fluctuations, etc., using metaphors. You can't research chemical interactions, physics, and other very technical subjects using metaphors. If nothing else they would have to have a "technology language" for these things. And they would realize the need to have a language of this nature to communicate with any species which did not share the cultural basis for their formal dialect.
It is a fun episode, but ultimately quite nonsensical.
Agreed. The Tamarians were the disposable "alien of the week." When DS9 premiered, my thought was, "Why the Bajorans?" The series fleshed out other aliens like Fereghi, Cardassian, Breen, and so forth, but the Bajorans remained the series's centerpiece. There are many other exciting races the series could have chosen as the centerpiece. Chief among them were the Tamarians. I wish the series could have had the Federation learn more about their people and exciting language. Maybe even have an episode where the UT team visits the Tamarian homeworld to learn essential words to add to the device, and in doing so, the viewers learn more about language.
While I love that episode (even if it's illogical as pointed out by others) I'm not sure you could really base an entire show around them. The entire point of making the
Cardassians and Bajorans the central races of DS9 was to explore some of the complex geopolitical issues that affect humans today on Earth in the present. For that you truly need the ability to communicate in straight language to convey the social and political nuance such topics require.
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