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WannaLogAlready wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 13:17:
Scheherazade wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 12:56:
Beamer wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 12:36:
The same people that whine about how untrustworthy politicians are get all their news and science from politicians

How is anyone still bringing up HCQ? Even Trump gave that one up 6 months ago.

How are some people so out of touch with reality?

Probably because HCQ helps some people very much.

Its downside is mainly that it doesn't reliably have an effect in every patient.
For some people they were recovering in half the time as others with the same condition at the time it was administered.
For other people it had no effect at all.
Meaning it's not dependable.

Since HCQ was created as a safer alternative to quinine for malaria treatment (Quinine is already safe enough to be sold at the grocery store (tonic water)), and HCQ is readily available, it's a decent add-on treatment to administer 'just in case it helps'.

HCQ was actually one of 3 compounds that China identified in the first few months as gaving some effect. They published their studies about it, which I read out of curiosity. HCQ was not actually the best compound, one other was twice as likely to help. But afaik HCQ was cheap and widely available.

It's a shame HCQ got politicised. It annoyed me how people dismissed it just because of the association with Trump.

-scheherazade

And here we go again spreading ignorant opinions 'cause hearsay and "reasons".
Those of a imbecile ignorant and willfully criminal president that heard about it in Fox or from a very interested big pharma donating "friend".

HCQ was dismissed because of the last full serious and finally complete scientific tests that required time and effort to produce.
And lives to be lost unfortunately : though not nearly as toxic as the other compound Scherezade mentions, HCQ has light noxious effects that will add to overwheming an already taxed organism.

Is China using it ?
No country is still supporting it, except Brasil's Trump, the wildly irresponsible Bolsonaro (who lost various Health Ministers already but what do doctors know, eh?), while panned by medics.

There are millions of dosis bought by the GOP states following the sainted word of their orange god, that nobody is using, nor wants, even free.

It's not people dismissing it, it's professionals, hospitals, doctors.
But every minute one clueless is born and all that.



Depends on the study.

eg a quick google shows :
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.22.20040758v2

Pneumonia symotoms improved in 80% of HCQ group vs 55% of control group.
2 GCQ patients had adverse reactions.

In any case, there is a littany of studies. They range from HCQ helps, to HCQ has no significant effect.
There is also a difference between 'improves symptoms' and 'shortens disease', and different studies focus on different aspects.

In any case, the compound is inoculus to the vast vast majority of people. I already know I tolerate quinine, so I would have no reason not to try it. If it helps, good, if not, no loss to me.

-scheherazade


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