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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Mar 3, 2021, 20:08
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Mar 3, 2021, 20:08
Mar 3, 2021, 20:08
 
'Now Is Not The Time To Stop Wearing A Mask,' Says CDC Director Rochelle Walensky NPR

CDC, what a bunch of maroons.

I only listen to Republicans like Greg Abbot
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Mar 2, 2021, 16:19
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Mar 2, 2021, 16:19
Mar 2, 2021, 16:19
 
RollingStone had the best headline.

"Trump Got Vaccinated Secretly, Because Otherwise He Might Have Helped the Country"

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-got-covid-vaccine-january-1135185/
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Mar 2, 2021, 09:40
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Mar 2, 2021, 09:40
Mar 2, 2021, 09:40
 
Hydroxychloroquine should not be used to prevent COVID-19
Multiple clinical trials of more than 6,000 people showed the drug had no meaningful effect on death or admissions to the hospital in people who had no prior exposure to COVID-19.

The trials showed a "moderate certainty" that not only did hydroxychloroquine have no meaningful effect on laboratory confirmed COVID-19 infection, it also probably increased the risk of adverse effects.
This is why you don't get medical advice from a bobblehead selling pillows, facebook, 45 tweets or Cucker Tarlson on faux noise.
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Mar 1, 2021, 20:51
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Mar 1, 2021, 20:51
Mar 1, 2021, 20:51
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jdreyer wrote on Mar 1, 2021, 14:55:
Prez wrote on Mar 1, 2021, 08:02:
Was curious why this thread had almost 50 posts, and... oh my god what happened?!?! Never mind me, just passing through...
Politics and COVID (which is a proxy for politics).

Which it shouldn’t be, though I absolutely (just unfortunately) agree it is.
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Mar 1, 2021, 14:55
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Mar 1, 2021, 14:55
Mar 1, 2021, 14:55
 
Prez wrote on Mar 1, 2021, 08:02:
Was curious why this thread had almost 50 posts, and... oh my god what happened?!?! Never mind me, just passing through...
Politics and COVID (which is a proxy for politics).
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Mar 1, 2021, 14:51
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Mar 1, 2021, 14:51
Mar 1, 2021, 14:51
 
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 19:30:
Total program costs for the F-35 to date, $400 Billion.

After doing more research, that $400B number isn't the total that's been spent so far, it's the estimated cost for development and acquisition for all 1700 F-35s over the life of the program (RDT&E plus Procurement). Here's the source doc. The remainder of the $1.7T is for operations and support over 60 years.

EDIT: Here on P29 it says,
PB 2020 Total 137579.9 13270.0 13047.4 13196.6 13805.7 13510.4 13605.9 210366.8 428382.7

The last number (428382) is the total cost in millions for the program to date? So that would be $428B spent so far. So $400B might be low.

EDIT EDIT: Okay, after further research, it looks like $428B is still the total cost of development and acquisition for all 1700 F-35s, just increased to account for additional costs.

This comment was edited on Mar 1, 2021, 16:59.
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Mar 1, 2021, 08:02
Prez
 
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Mar 1, 2021, 08:02
Mar 1, 2021, 08:02
 Prez
 
Was curious why this thread had almost 50 posts, and... oh my god what happened?!?! Never mind me, just passing through...
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Mar 1, 2021, 04:28
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Mar 1, 2021, 04:28
Mar 1, 2021, 04:28
 
WannaLogAlready wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 23:40:
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 21:15:
Lincoln Project does it again. Qdroxychloroquine®

Brutal, again


I know The Lincoln Project is kind of imploding, but this latest one is sheer genius.
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Feb 28, 2021, 23:53
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Feb 28, 2021, 23:53
Feb 28, 2021, 23:53
 
MattyC wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 23:39:
Scheherazade wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 15:22:
If you are gonna argue with me, argue with what I actually said.
-scheherazade

I’m your huckleberry... Hydroxychloroquine does is not a viable COVID treatment, full stop.

And for the record:

Scheherazade wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 15:22:
if not, no loss to me.

I hope I just misunderstood you here, because it sure was a loss to people that actually needed that medication for things it is used to treat like RA and lupus.

Correct, you misunderstood. I am very unlikely to have an adverse reaction to HCQ, since I tolerate quinine, and quinine is the less tolerable variant. So if it fails to help me, it almost certainly won't harm me. Hence no loss to me.

-scheherazade
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Feb 28, 2021, 23:40
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Feb 28, 2021, 23:40
Feb 28, 2021, 23:40
 
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 21:15:
Lincoln Project does it again. Qdroxychloroquine®

Brutal, again

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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Feb 28, 2021, 23:39
MattyC
 
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Feb 28, 2021, 23:39
Feb 28, 2021, 23:39
 MattyC
 
Scheherazade wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 15:22:
If you are gonna argue with me, argue with what I actually said.
-scheherazade

I’m your huckleberry... Hydroxychloroquine is not a viable COVID treatment, full stop.

And for the record:

Scheherazade wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 15:22:
if not, no loss to me.

I hope I just misunderstood you here, because it sure was a loss to people that actually needed that medication for things it is used to treat like RA and lupus.

This comment was edited on Feb 28, 2021, 23:58.
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Feb 28, 2021, 23:35
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Feb 28, 2021, 23:35
Feb 28, 2021, 23:35
 
Scheherazade wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 23:08:
WannaLogAlready wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 19:21:
Scheherazade wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 15:22:

Depends on the study.

eg a quick google shows :
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.22.20040758v2

Pneumonia symotoms improved in 80% of HCQ group vs 55% of control group.
2 GCQ patients had adverse reactions.

In any case, there is a littany of studies. They range from HCQ helps, to HCQ has no significant effect.
There is also a difference between 'improves symptoms' and 'shortens disease', and different studies focus on different aspects.

In any case, the compound is inoculus to the vast vast majority of people. I already know I tolerate quinine, so I would have no reason not to try it. If it helps, good, if not, no loss to me.

-scheherazade

Scheherazade,
You base your opinion on a March 2020 study, nearly a year old, when both HCQ and Covid19, were barely under study ?
Speechless.


No, I don't. No need to strawman.

You can read and you know I mentioned that the link is one quick google.
And you already read that I said that multiple studies showed various results.
If you are gonna argue with me, argue with what I actually said.

-scheherazade

I read what you posted, and you posted a year old article.
Can't know what goes on in your mind.
But I fully believe you, if you say it was an oversight, we all make them, just not a confidence inspiring one.
Note: I surmise you know that not all tonic waters contain quinine.

Anyway, please be careful if considering self-medicating.
Not a confidence inspiring step either, to be frank, take care.

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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Feb 28, 2021, 23:18
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Feb 28, 2021, 23:18
Feb 28, 2021, 23:18
 
In the f35's defense : you develop weapons before you need them, not after.

A present enemy is not needed to develop a counter. In fact it shouldn't be needed. If it exists, you are late to the game.

People bash the f35 on criteria that is OBE.

High off boresight sraams make maneuverability less of an issue than it was before. Modern fox2 engagements last seconds, and hardly anyone gets time to turn at all.

Stealth isn't about sneaking around. It's about reducing the lock range of your opponents fox1 and fox3 missiles, allowing you to shoot first, and even choose to leave, at a range where you are not lockable.

Yah, it's over budget. Sucks. But most of the cost is in development and it's 99% done. Dumping it now would be stupid. The time to dump it was way earlier. Now it would be pointless.

Especially when the cost of modern f16 variants has crept up to parity with the f35.

If you want to reduce cost, cut the process down.

Modern arms development works at a snails pace and bleeds money, mostly because every little new thing needs a new contract, and engineers are not even allowed to fix things unless confguration management thinks it is worthy of fixing. CM fears new safety bugs so bad that they prefer to leave broken but safe things unchanged.

Flight certification takes a good year for any revision of hardware that plugs into an airframe's electronics. Get ready to grow old iterating on a design.

-scheherazade

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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Feb 28, 2021, 23:08
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Feb 28, 2021, 23:08
Feb 28, 2021, 23:08
 
WannaLogAlready wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 19:21:
Scheherazade wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 15:22:

Depends on the study.

eg a quick google shows :
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.22.20040758v2

Pneumonia symotoms improved in 80% of HCQ group vs 55% of control group.
2 GCQ patients had adverse reactions.

In any case, there is a littany of studies. They range from HCQ helps, to HCQ has no significant effect.
There is also a difference between 'improves symptoms' and 'shortens disease', and different studies focus on different aspects.

In any case, the compound is inoculus to the vast vast majority of people. I already know I tolerate quinine, so I would have no reason not to try it. If it helps, good, if not, no loss to me.

-scheherazade

Scheherazade,
You base your opinion on a March 2020 study, nearly a year old, when both HCQ and Covid19, were barely under study ?
Speechless.


No, I don't. No need to strawman.

You can read and you know I mentioned that the link is one quick google.
And you already read that I said that multiple studies showed various results.
If you are gonna argue with me, argue with what I actually said.

-scheherazade
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Feb 28, 2021, 21:15
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Feb 28, 2021, 21:15
Feb 28, 2021, 21:15
 
WannaLogAlready wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 19:21:
Scheherazade wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 15:22:
Depends on the study.
Scheherazade,
You base your opinion on a March 2020 study, nearly a year old, when both HCQ and Covid19, were barely under study ?
Speechless.
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Feb 28, 2021, 19:54
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Feb 28, 2021, 19:54
Feb 28, 2021, 19:54
 
wtf_man wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 17:48:
Burrito of Peace wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 15:21:
Now we get to the heart of the matter. Your entire worldview is based on "Fuck you, I got mine." Cool. You and I no longer have a reason to continue to discuss this topic.

Close. You are correct in assuming I have no bleeding heart.

It's not simply that "I got mine". It's that "I worked hard for many years slowly climbing the ladder for mine. You do the same, or Fuck You."
It's called earning it.
Zero sympathy for people that think the are entitled to a have a free ride.

And with that correction... you are right... We have no reason to continue this discussion.



But you didn't get there alone. People often seem to think they did. They don't realize that they benefited from public education funding, where they in no way paid as much as the education they received (again, even if they went to private schools.) They also had a team full of similar people, whether coworkers, employees, or peers, to rely upon. You had functioning roads, sewers, and other institutions so that neither you nor your employer needed to worry about such things. You had regulations that ensured your freedom, and public entities enforcing those regulations. And your company, or its clients, had a steady stream of revenue because nearly all Americans have some level of disposable income thanks to safety nets in place.

Only a very short-sighted person feels they got there alone.

Not to mention, hard work has nearly zero correlation with success. It's probably the least important contributing factor. Tens of millions of Americans are poor despite working incredibly hard. And a very significant chunk of the wealthy in America (and, to clarify, by "wealthy" I'll draw the line at a net worth of $10MM and above) do not work hard at all.
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Feb 28, 2021, 19:44
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Feb 28, 2021, 19:44
Feb 28, 2021, 19:44
 
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 19:30:
Total program costs for the F-35 to date, $400 Billion.
In Feb 2014 the program was $163 billion over budget and seven years behind schedule. So, only $400 billion to date would be a level of constraint I find difficult to believe. But hey... stranger things have happened.
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Feb 28, 2021, 19:37
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Feb 28, 2021, 19:37
Feb 28, 2021, 19:37
 
A few more things to keep in mind.

1) Our military spending is only 15% of the entire Federal budget. Current military spending is only 3.5% of GDP, half of what it was during the Cold War. At a time when China's stated goal is to replace the US as the world superpower, I don't think we want to accede that place to a regime that systematically represses its own people, consistently ignores its international obligations, illegally harvests the organs of political prisoners, and engages in the genocide of its own people. The US isn't perfect, but we're fairly transparently imperfect and strive to improve ourselves and the world as a whole. The CCP wants to improve things for a subset of Chinese people, and for nobody else.

2) If we want more money for healthcare, infrastructure, education, etc. let's undo the Trump tax cut, and bring back the higher income brackets we had before the Reagan "tax reform." And double the IRS so they can bring in the 100s of billions that go unpaid by white collar tax cheats.
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Feb 28, 2021, 19:30
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Feb 28, 2021, 19:30
Feb 28, 2021, 19:30
 
Total program costs for the F-35 to date, $400 Billion.
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Feb 28, 2021, 19:21
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Feb 28, 2021, 19:21
Feb 28, 2021, 19:21
 
Scheherazade wrote on Feb 28, 2021, 15:22:

Depends on the study.

eg a quick google shows :
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.22.20040758v2

Pneumonia symotoms improved in 80% of HCQ group vs 55% of control group.
2 GCQ patients had adverse reactions.

In any case, there is a littany of studies. They range from HCQ helps, to HCQ has no significant effect.
There is also a difference between 'improves symptoms' and 'shortens disease', and different studies focus on different aspects.

In any case, the compound is inoculus to the vast vast majority of people. I already know I tolerate quinine, so I would have no reason not to try it. If it helps, good, if not, no loss to me.

-scheherazade

Scheherazade,
You base your opinion on a March 2020 study, nearly a year old, when both HCQ and Covid19, were barely under study ?
Speechless.



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