Bloodlines 2 Delayed Again; Developer Removed

A Development Update on the Bloodlines 2 Website reveals another delay to Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2. Paradox Interactive also announces they are removing Hardsuit Labs from the project, which will continue on with a new developer. They cannot project a new release date, so they are no longer accepting preorders for the game. At this point, it almost seems like Bloodlines 2 is cursed, as it's already suffered a couple of delays, the removal of writer Chris Avellone following a scandal, and a previous shakeup of the development team. The latest delay is not a complete surprise, as it was foreshadowed in December. Perhaps the whole franchise is jinxed, as Troika, developer of the original Bloodlines, closed down before the game was even released. Here is the latest news:
As you have noticed, we’ve been keeping pretty quiet for a while. With this in mind, the first piece of news we have for you is to confirm that Bloodlines 2 is still in development.

Secondly, we have made the hard decision that Hardsuit Labs will no longer be leading the development of Bloodlines 2 - which also means that we will not be releasing in 2021 as previously planned. Since we cannot at this time communicate a new release date, we've also decided to stop accepting pre-orders for the time being.

This game is very important to us and it has been an ambitious project from the very start. In order to meet our goals for it, we’ve come to the conclusion that a change is needed and, as a result, more development time is required.

We’d like to take this opportunity to honor Hardsuit Labs for their efforts and thank them for their hard work on the project. The studio has done a tremendous job in laying the foundations for the game and we hope that you, the community, will also appreciate their contribution to Bloodlines 2.

We’re thankful for your continuous support throughout the game’s development. We understand how important this is to you, and we’d love to share more with you. As soon as we can, we’ll let you know what the future development team of Bloodlines 2 will look like.
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Bloodlines was a freak accident with no right to be as good as it was. Other studios have tried to recreate it many times before, and while I don't blame people for hoping a licensed sequel might actually pull that off, I've personally never had any such faith.
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El Pit wrote on Feb 23, 2021, 14:44:
Saboth wrote on Feb 23, 2021, 13:33:
Duke Nukem 2: "Amateurs!"

What was wrong about DN2? Do you mean Duke Nukem 4ever?

Well, I preordered Duke Nukem 2 way back in the 90s, and it went a while before my order was cancelled, and then the game came out like 20 years later.
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Feb 23, 2021, 14:50
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If you pre-ordered, today is a great time to get that back. ASAP.
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Saboth wrote on Feb 23, 2021, 13:33:
Duke Nukem 2: "Amateurs!"

What was wrong about DN2? Do you mean Duke Nukem 4ever?
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Duke Nukem 2: "Amateurs!"
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ldonyo wrote on Feb 23, 2021, 12:23:
I'm tempted to ask GOG for a refund on my preorder. I'm reasonably patient, but I'm not sure I can wait another two years, or longer, for this to see the light of day.
I put in a request for a refund. I'm kind of bummed, as I preordered this on 10/11/2019 at the same time I preordered Cyberpunk 2077. I think I'm done preordering games from anywhere.
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Who called this over a year ago and said HSL did not have the talent or expertise to pull this off and either was going to put out a sub par product at best or project collapse at worst? oh yes that was me. If the 2010 looking trailer or endless delay didn't tell you something like this was coming you were not paying attention. For those that disputed what I said a while ago that I assume you will be adult enough to admit you were wrong. (we all know won't happen those people will just pretend they never said it chuckle)

On a more serious note I agree, it's going to be at LEAST retooled to some degree if not mostly redone. I said this when Paradox got the IP have Obsidian or CDPR do the game, either one of them can pull this off. HSL was over its head right out of the gate, clear as day to those of us following it from the start.

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ldonyo wrote on Feb 23, 2021, 12:23:
I'm tempted to ask GOG for a refund on my preorder. I'm reasonably patient, but I'm not sure I can wait another two years, or longer, for this to see the light of day.
Definitely refund it.
Wait for your favorite trusted reviewer to have a go at it after it's released and then order if you still want it.
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ldonyo wrote on Feb 23, 2021, 12:23:
I'm tempted to ask GOG for a refund on my preorder. I'm reasonably patient, but I'm not sure I can wait another two years, or longer, for this to see the light of day.

Definitely get a refund.

At best it is going to be completely different than what was pitched already, meaning you ain't getting what you thought you paid for. Whether it is good or not remains to be seen, but super doubtful.
Get your games from GOG DAMMIT!
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This is the right time to turn this, Dead Island 2, and Dying Light 2, into kickstarter projects run by CIG. This way we will know that the money will be rolling in and the projects will be... uh... Wiseguy uhm... you know... they will be... Biggrin moving... forward... BWAHAHAHAHA! Rotfl
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"The studio has done a tremendous job in laying the foundations for the game and we hope that you, the community, will also appreciate their contribution to Bloodlines 2"

It's typical for new teams to not want to use existing code (or at least push for a huge refactor), so we can probably kiss this one goodbye if they're not allowed the time to fix and refactor the garbage (hence all the delays). Basically, development just started from scratch again lol
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ldonyo wrote on Feb 23, 2021, 12:23:
I'm tempted to ask GOG for a refund on my preorder. I'm reasonably patient, but I'm not sure I can wait another two years, or longer, for this to see the light of day.

Dude, it's going to be garbage regardless if it ever comes out or not. Get your money back. At this point it sounds like they may as well scrap it.
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I'm tempted to ask GOG for a refund on my preorder. I'm reasonably patient, but I'm not sure I can wait another two years, or longer, for this to see the light of day.
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This seems terrible at first, but who the fuck is/was Hardsuit Labs anyway? Their web page lists some free to play game, and Bloodlines 2. They were probably fucking up royally.

The game was cursed the second they started firing all the creative designers and writers, but maybe now some veteran studio can step in and make something worthwhile. Good luck, whomever that is/will be, that'll be an uphill battle for sure.


Almost completely unrelated, I went ahead and finished Cyberpunk 2077 finally, and I must report that at least two of the (six?) endings infuriated me greatly. I am going to do some more endings today, but I feel like the endings didn't all need to be this grim. Damn you, grimdark cyberpunk 1980s era fiction!
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