Epic Sues Apple and Google in the UK

Epic Games is opening another front in their legal war against Apple and Google over Fortnite royalties. Epic's lawsuit against Apple is expected to start in January and they have also sued Apple in Australia. Now the BBC reports Epic is now also suing Apple and Google in the UK. Here are the details:
Epic Games alleges that both companies abuse their power by:

  • unfairly restricting competition from alternative app stores
  • stopping developers using their own payment-processing services for purchases
  • charging "unfair prices for the distribution of apps"

Epic Games is not seeking a financial payout but instead wants the court to order Apple and Google to:

  • reinstate Epic Games' software and accounts
  • let developers use their own payment-processing systems in their apps
  • let consumers download Epic Games' software outside of the App Store or Google Play

In a statement, Epic Games said: "We believe that this is an important argument to make on behalf of consumers and developers in the UK and around the world who are impacted by Apple and Google's misuse of market power."

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mxmissile wrote on Jan 15, 2021, 15:36:
Epic has some very "epic" points that I agree with, however the hypocrisy here is simply boiling over way too much.
Epic's differentiation strategy is both legal and valid and promotes competition. Many companies in many industries use this strategy. Apple and Google's monopolistic and duopolistic market positions are antitrust violations and anticompetitive. They are opposites.
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Re: What's the problem with Google?
Jan 15, 2021, 16:12
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TMGeorge wrote on Jan 15, 2021, 15:37:
Aren't 3rd party appstores? Can't you not just download the APK and install it? What do I miss?
Because the vast majority of people think "APK" is a government agency, and think "sideloading" is something you do in bed with the consent of your spouse.
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Why do people care what store the game comes from?
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Re: What's the problem with Google?
Jan 15, 2021, 15:41
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Jan 15, 2021, 15:41
 
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What's the problem with Google?
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What's the problem with Google? Jan 15, 2021, 15:37
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Aren't 3rd party appstores? Can't you not just download the APK and install it? What do I miss?
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Epic has some very "epic" points that I agree with, however the hypocrisy here is simply boiling over way too much.
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RedEye9 wrote on Jan 15, 2021, 14:53:
This better not cut into the freebies.

Oh, it will. Dwindling income from Fortnite. Fortnite moving to a sub model. Legal fights in multiple countries. Epic is going drop freebies before they drop exclusivity. There's no ROI on freebies compared to the ROI on exclusivity.
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This better not cut into the freebies.
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Jan 15, 2021, 14:40
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Darks wrote on Jan 15, 2021, 14:02:
Cutter wrote on Jan 15, 2021, 12:14:
"unfairly restricting competition"

Kind of like game exclusives? That sort of unfairly restricting competition kind of thing?

Rolleyes

This exactly, I wish that Steam would do this and sue the shit out of Epic for what they are trying to do to everyone else. Fair is far. force them out of being exclusive. make them pay for their dirty low down dealings too.
And then we also need to sue Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo for paying developers to make console exclusive titles.
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Cutter wrote on Jan 15, 2021, 12:14:
"unfairly restricting competition"

Kind of like game exclusives? That sort of unfairly restricting competition kind of thing?

Rolleyes

This exactly, I wish that Steam would do this and sue the shit out of Epic for what they are trying to do to everyone else. Fair is far. force them out of being exclusive. make them pay for their dirty low down dealings too.
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Keep burning your Fortnite cash on this Timmy, less money for EGS exclusivity. Thumbsup
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Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 15, 2021, 13:27:
Slashman wrote on Jan 15, 2021, 13:18:
Well Rudy is not being paid by Trump anymore so...he's looking for work man.
Rudy should sue Trump for payment and get Cruz to represent him!

Abandon all of those idiots on an island along with their dumb ass supporters'. It will make Lord of the Flies come to Life.
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Slashman wrote on Jan 15, 2021, 13:18:
Well Rudy is not being paid by Trump anymore so...he's looking for work man.
Rudy should sue Trump for payment and get Cruz to represent him!
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Well Rudy is not being paid by Trump anymore so...he's looking for work man.
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RedEye9 wrote on Jan 15, 2021, 12:27:
At this point no one would be surprised to hear that Epics legal team consists of Ted Cruz and Rudy Giuliani.


Too soon....
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At this point no one would be surprised to hear that Epics legal team consists of Ted Cruz and Rudy Giuliani.

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If at first you don't succeed try, try, again?
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"unfairly restricting competition"

Kind of like game exclusives? That sort of unfairly restricting competition kind of thing?

Rolleyes
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Woot more Epic whining and being slapped down!
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