The Flying Penguin wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 13:54:
Simon Says wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 13:45:
The Flying Penguin wrote on Jan 12, 2021, 13:40:
For the life of me, I don't understand why conservatives want to repeal section 230. I can only assume that because of Trump's misunderstanding of what it is (I'm sure he never bothered to read it, since he couldn't be bothered to read the Constitution in the last four years), and his constant repeating of the 'repeal 230' chant, everyone is just buying into it.
Probably the same stupidity as the left's 'defund the police' mantra.
Now don't be disingenuous. You're comparing apples to oranges. The "left" ( rest of the world's center ) has been pretty clear what they meant "defund the police", they meant to reduce it's funding to:
-Demilitarize it.
-Divert some of the funding to social programs.
-Reduce the police's workload by letting other organisms funded by the social programs deal with calls that have nothing to do with crimes and which police routinely bungles and has no training to deal with, often resulting in tragic unnecessary deaths and violence from the police.
-Other provisions I don't remember which are as clear as those stated above.
Not being disingenuous at all. It's a marketing slogan. Something easy to yell over a bullhorn, but unfortunately it's a poor choice of words.
I know what they mean by it, but it just gives the Right, fuel to mis represent it. Obama himself pointed this out after the election. He specifically called out using the phrase 'defund the police' as what likely caused the loss of house seats.
I'm a left leaning independent, and fully support the idea of 'demilitarizing the police' (there, a better slogan, I offer it royalty free for anyone's use).
You and I may understand what it means, but you and I read a wide range of news sources. Conservatives (even the reasonable moderate ones) get their news from Fox or worse, and they constantly take the literal meaning of the phrase and use it to stoke fear of the 'socialist agenda'.
I have lot's of reasonable conservative friends, not MAGA hat wearing nut jobs, who nonetheless, still believe that 'defund the police' is literal. They don't read the New York Times.
We've become a sound bite society. And that's a lousy sound bite.
Normies and anarchists have different impressions of what 'defund the police' means.
One watches on tv, maybe attends some local protest to walk with a crowd. The other is organizing the protest and doing the yelling from the bullhorn.
Normies think : well, what do they /really/ mean?
Anarchists think : you damn well heard what we said.
Side note, I am more or less ok with the literal interpretation. Fact is, police only show up after the fact to take statements. Reality already is that you have to help yourself in the moment. The movie portrayal with sirens seconds away is just a fantasy. Just save the money.
-scheherazade