Beamer wrote on Jan 11, 2021, 16:58:
wtf_man wrote on Jan 11, 2021, 16:52:
Beamer wrote on Jan 11, 2021, 16:45:
Ok. Who was banned for things that aren't TOS violations?
A whole platform was silenced by 3 tech companies. Not Individuals that were violating TOS.
This is the same as if Twitter was hosted on Amazon, and the apps hosted on Apple and Android were completely and suddenly removed because Twitter wasn't fast enough at getting the small percentage (compared to the entire platform) of illegal content (death threats, etc.) removed.
Yes, when you create something predominantly for illegal purposes, or you fail to put in good faith efforts to curb illegal usage, this is what happens.
Over time we've seen this happen plenty, and usually for things that go up bragging about having no censorship. The Silk Road bragged about having no censorship. It was used mostly to sell drugs, and a few people purchased the services of hitmen (who may or may not have been hitmen, and who I don't think actually killed anyone, but they still took the money for the murder.) It was taken down.
Cheat programs for popular online games get taken down all the time.
This is as American as it gets. It's a mix of law and order - follow them or you get shut down, and capitalism - if you start creating more trouble than income you bring in for your vendors, they'll pretty happily sever ties.
Hey, Beamer. I don't think it's fair to suggest Parler was created for predominantly illegal purposes. I feel I should disclose that I have the app installed on my phone but I only used it once to see what it was and found nothing there of value to me personally. However, what I did see wasn't illegal in any way. Were there people on there I found repulsive in their opinions? Yes. Were there people on there I agreed with? Yes, as well. Were there groups on there who were committing illegal acts? I didn't see any, but from what's been shared as news since it sounds like it. I think you can probably find peole of that sort on any decent sized communication platform. The issue here isn't the legality of AWS shutting it down. The issue is in how and why they did shut it down. As they did, they instantly silenced millions of people who had done nothing wrong. Is AWS within their legal rights to do so? Yes. But doing something simply because it's legal doesn't make it a good idea.
Many people no longer receive a news paper or have access to the daily news on TV. The internet and its various platforms are where many if not most people now get their news and information and equally as important, these are the places their share their voices. While that is in itself no less than moderately terrifying, these platforms, the Twitters and Parlers are equivalent to the public forums of our day. I believe it is critical that we find better ways to manage them without stomping on voices with which we don't agree. That, too, would be as American as it gets. When we silence dialogue and see our own neighbors as the enemy we have lost our way. If we are proponents of American ideals we should be constantly striving to protect and understand the under-represented voices and those who feel marginalized.