Quinn wrote on Jan 10, 2021, 02:47:
jdreyer wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 23:24:
Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 22:57:
Hey, I do what I can. I've said it before, I'll say it again, I completely understand why people voted for Trump in 2016. Most people pay far less attention to politics than I do. Most people are busy living their lives, paying their bills, they don't know jack shit about politics -- they know they don't and that's fine with them. They didn't know Trump was a charlatan, who lies like a rug, who cares as much about the working man as he does mud on the bottom of his shoe. They listened to Fox, Rush, Hannity, and the rest of it and believed.
But if after four years of what Trump has said and done, you still believe he deserves your vote -- you're lost to me. You clearly have no connection with reality. Yes, I believe over 75 million US citizens have no connection with reality, in politics. Do I believe they should be gunned down? Of course not. However their ignorance is weighing this country down. And frankly, I don't have a lot of concern for them. Maybe that makes me a horrible person. So be it.
We've entered a phase of partisan politics where it's more important to hate the other party than it is to like your own. In these circumstances, it doesn't matter who your candidate is, just so long as the other team loses. Here's a good summation of what the current state of politics in the US is.
"The current state of political sectarianism produces prejudice, discrimination and cognitive distortion, undermining the ability of government to serve its core functions of representing the people and solving the nation's problems," said Finkel. "Along the way, it makes people increasingly willing to support candidates who undermine democracy and to favor violence in support of their political goals."
There's a subtle "Who can blame them?" in there. There can be no nuance in a system where there's only 2 bodies to get things done and they both hate eachother beyond reason. The system has become bankrupt of any functionality other than making the US the clown of the democratic world. Start looking at how countries like The Netherlands do it. And fast.
I was only stating a fact, not expressing an opinion. As for our system, when it was set up, the party system was not envisaged or anticipated. Our system is also one of the oldest. We've amended it over time, but at this point I wonder if a parliamentary system wouldn't be better, a la the UK. Then you'd have more parties, instead of two larger parties that can get coopted by radicals. So the more moderate parties can form coalitions that encourage working together, vs. what the US currently has: the parties decidedly not working together and struggling to get meaningful legislation passed. All of this is wishful thinking of course, the US system can be tinkered with around the edges, but never changed wholesale.
If Russia stops fighting, the war ends. If Ukraine stops fighting, Ukraine ends. Slava Ukraini!