I have to say I feel sorry for you in the United States. Now that Trump is gone, you can already now see that countries like North Korea, China, Iran will take advantage of you again.

More good news:
Pence has not ruled out 25th Amendment
and
Amazon will no longer host Parler after Sunday at 11:59 PM Pacific Time

Three cheers for big tech for doing the right thing.

JediPunisher wrote on Jan 10, 2021, 00:31:
When Trump steps out of the spotlight, politics will become boring again.

I like your optimism, let's hope it is warranted. Although the actions of Cruz and Hawley don't seem to foreshadow that outcome...

jdreyer wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 23:24:
We've entered a phase of partisan politics where it's more important to hate the other party than it is to like your own. In these circumstances, it doesn't matter who your candidate is, just so long as the other team loses.

I largely agree with that. But, I don't hate Biden or the Dems. In fact, I've always kinda liked crazy Joe... just not as my president.
One thing we can all agree upon... When Trump steps out of the spotlight, politics will become boring again.

I don't hate them, I'm just not concerned for them. I don't belong to any political party. I don't think the Ds are anywhere close to perfect. But when a group of people can not recognize the obvious truth of something staring them in the face. There is nothing I can do. If they are going to insist 1 + 1 = 3, *shrug* then I will not be bother to be concerned with them. And it doesn't matter if that is a group of five people or a group of 75 million people.

The US political system is in rough shape. The Trump presidency was 30 years (or more) in the making. The Ds and Rs share the responsibility for it. But it can't be fixed by people who refuse to acknowledge reality.

Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 22:57:
Hey, I do what I can. I've said it before, I'll say it again, I completely understand why people voted for Trump in 2016. Most people pay far less attention to politics than I do. Most people are busy living their lives, paying their bills, they don't know jack shit about politics -- they know they don't and that's fine with them. They didn't know Trump was a charlatan, who lies like a rug, who cares as much about the working man as he does mud on the bottom of his shoe. They listened to Fox, Rush, Hannity, and the rest of it and believed.

But if after four years of what Trump has said and done, you still believe he deserves your vote -- you're lost to me. You clearly have no connection with reality. Yes, I believe over 75 million US citizens have no connection with reality, in politics. Do I believe they should be gunned down? Of course not. However their ignorance is weighing this country down. And frankly, I don't have a lot of concern for them. Maybe that makes me a horrible person. So be it.

We've entered a phase of partisan politics where it's more important to hate the other party than it is to like your own. In these circumstances, it doesn't matter who your candidate is, just so long as the other team loses. Here's a good summation of what the current state of politics in the US is.

"The current state of political sectarianism produces prejudice, discrimination and cognitive distortion, undermining the ability of government to serve its core functions of representing the people and solving the nation's problems," said Finkel. "Along the way, it makes people increasingly willing to support candidates who undermine democracy and to favor violence in support of their political goals."

Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 22:57:
Hey, I do what I can. I've said it before, I'll say it again, I completely understand why people voted for Trump in 2016. Most people pay far less attention to politics than I do. Most people are busy living their lives, paying their bills, they don't know jack shit about politics -- they know they don't and that's fine with them. They didn't know Trump was a charlatan, who lies like a rug, who cares as much about the working man as he does mud on the bottom of his shoe. They listened to Fox, Rush, Hannity, and the rest of it and believed.

But if after four years of what Trump has said and done, you still believe he deserves your vote -- you're lost to me. You clearly have no connection with reality. Yes, I believe over 75 million US citizens have no connection with reality, in politics. Do I believe they should be gunned down? Of course not. However their ignorance is weighing this country down. And frankly, I don't have a lot of concern for them. Maybe that makes me a horrible person. So be it.

I had someone recently say to me that Democrats caused this by calling Trump fans deplorable.

I pointed out that it was actually Hillary, not Democrats, and what she said was that half of Trump fans belonged in a basket full of deplorables, and asked what percentage of people from the rally went to the Capitol, and if those at the Capitol could be called anything other than deplorable.

Didn't get a response.

You can bet the National Guard will be locked and loaded this time and won't allow the terrorists to kill any police officers or threaten the nation's capital.

On a side note I looked in my checkbook and noticed I have fuck you money.
It allows me to ignore calls from people that have trump bumper stickers, signs in their yard or are Republican.
Money is quite freeing.

Hey, I do what I can. I've said it before, I'll say it again, I completely understand why people voted for Trump in 2016. Most people pay far less attention to politics than I do. Most people are busy living their lives, paying their bills, they don't know jack shit about politics -- they know they don't and that's fine with them. They didn't know Trump was a charlatan, who lies like a rug, who cares as much about the working man as he does mud on the bottom of his shoe. They listened to Fox, Rush, Hannity, and the rest of it and believed.

But if after four years of what Trump has said and done, you still believe he deserves your vote -- you're lost to me. You clearly have no connection with reality. Yes, I believe over 75 million US citizens have no connection with reality, in politics. Do I believe they should be gunned down? Of course not. However their ignorance is weighing this country down. And frankly, I don't have a lot of concern for them. Maybe that makes me a horrible person. So be it.

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Strider83 wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 22:28:
So you *censored* moderators at blue news will allow someone to post a terroristic threat and not remove it.

Did you report it? The moderators probably don't read all the forum posts. Personally I didn't, but then I rarely report posts. On the merits though, I'd agree it wasn't appropriate -- even if I was sympathetic to it.

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RedEye9 wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 21:53:
... All the while acting like an immature teenager who's mad at his daddy, he thinks he's still winning by not going to the inauguration. sad

I think his not showing up is just his typical cowardice. Apparently he doesn't have the stones to even call Pence after last week. I bet the thought of being in Pence's or Biden's or Harris's presence at the inaugural gives him the vapors.

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NPR
Trumpism Suffers Untold Damage In Its Collision With The U.S. Capitol

Not only did the moron lose the Senate, he's going to go down as the only president to have been impeached twice. All the while acting like an immature teenager who's mad at his daddy, he thinks he's still winning by not going to the inauguration. sad

jdreyer wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:45:

Wolfen wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:28:
Here is the whole video for reference on that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTg1ynIPGls

You can take what you want from it. I don't see a comparison personally between her comments and Trumps though. Also I don't believe ALL the Trump supporters there really approved of what was happening at the capitol. I also think ANY person under any movement who causes violence or destruction should be dealt with equally and fairly under our justice system. Protesting is one thing. Violence is another.

Apparently 45% of Republicans approved of the storming of the Capitol.

Well... that's not all of them... is it?