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jdreyer wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:58:
When BLM protested in Washington earlier this year, here was the police presence at the Capitol. If it had been the same on Wednesday, none of this would have happened. It was an epic failure to take the threat seriously.
I believe that photo is from the Lincoln Memorial, but it doesn't change the question. If a crowd of two thousand or more pushes in against something like that, what are they going to do? Are they going to open fire?
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Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:54:
I have to say, one of my thoughts early on after the riot was wondering this: If there had been the kind of law enforcement presence we saw around so many of the BLM marches, what would have happened? Would the protesters still have tried to force their way in? And if they still had, would there be dozens of dead rioters? If the result was dozens of dead rioters would that have been better or worse than what did happen?

When BLM protested in Washington earlier this year, here was the police presence at the Capitol. If it had been the same on Wednesday, none of this would have happened. It was an epic failure to take the threat seriously.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
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DarkCntry wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:48:
jdreyer wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:43:
DarkCntry wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:58:
I don't much care for Biden/Harris' overarching platform because it doesn't adequately address the real situations in the nation, nor does it allow avenues to start alleviating these issues, but I don't disagree with much of your statement.

Either way, I didn't vote Biden/Harris because of their platform but because of it not being Trump....and the fact that we're stuck in a forever two-party system.

Well, good luck with that whole "doesn't adequately address the real situations" thing. Even if Biden had plans for doing that, no way to get it through congress. I agree with you that incremental change isn't going to cut it, but it won't be possible to get that stuff through congress without a 60% majority.

I agree, the two-party system with absolutely the minimalist amount of checks and balances makes it's a near-impossible thing to get anything to actually right the boat so-to-speak.

An even bigger problem is that congress is funded mostly by large corporations. It's unlikely that congress will oppose corporate will, even though it's plain that the planet and our long-term survival are at stake.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Jan 9, 2021, 20:54
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Jan 9, 2021, 20:54
 
I have to say, one of my thoughts early on after the riot was wondering this: If there had been the kind of law enforcement presence we saw around so many of the BLM marches, what would have happened? Would the protesters still have tried to force their way in? And if they still had, would there be dozens of dead rioters? If the result was dozens of dead rioters would that have been better or worse than what did happen?
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Jan 9, 2021, 20:48
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jdreyer wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:43:
DarkCntry wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:58:
I don't much care for Biden/Harris' overarching platform because it doesn't adequately address the real situations in the nation, nor does it allow avenues to start alleviating these issues, but I don't disagree with much of your statement.

Either way, I didn't vote Biden/Harris because of their platform but because of it not being Trump....and the fact that we're stuck in a forever two-party system.

Well, good luck with that whole "doesn't adequately address the real situations" thing. Even if Biden had plans for doing that, no way to get it through congress. I agree with you that incremental change isn't going to cut it, but it won't be possible to get that stuff through congress without a 60% majority.

I agree, the two-party system with absolutely the minimalist amount of checks and balances makes it's a near-impossible thing to get anything to actually right the boat so-to-speak.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Jan 9, 2021, 20:45
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Dunkirk wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:39:
bigspender wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 17:50:
Also I hope the national guard shoot up those MAGA fuckers. That would actually go a long way to making america great....by swiftly removing some of the worst people in society...

This is an even more egregious incitement to violence than what got Trump banned from Twitter.

While I don't agree with the statement, it's not an incitement, it's a desired outcome...the difference is that the statement you're talking about is someone hoping an event comes to pass and the one's Trump produced were pushing for events to pass. Not to mention, bigspender here probably doesn't have the social clout to get more than, maybe, a handful of people do anything compared to the millions of people willing to do what Trump tells them to do.

Either way, the original statement is pretty idiotic but it is in no way comparable to what Trump did.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
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Dunkirk wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:39:
bigspender wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 17:50:
Also I hope the national guard shoot up those MAGA fuckers. That would actually go a long way to making america great....by swiftly removing some of the worst people in society...

This is an even more egregious incitement to violence than what got Trump banned from Twitter.

On the one hand, sure. On the other hand, if the Capitol police had responded with appropriate force there would have been more deaths, but there would not have been the chance of a repeat. Right now on Parler, the same people are planning more activities in the 16th, 17th, and 19th because they view the activities on the 6th as a rousing success.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
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DarkCntry wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:58:
I don't much care for Biden/Harris' overarching platform because it doesn't adequately address the real situations in the nation, nor does it allow avenues to start alleviating these issues, but I don't disagree with much of your statement.

Either way, I didn't vote Biden/Harris because of their platform but because of it not being Trump....and the fact that we're stuck in a forever two-party system.

Well, good luck with that whole "doesn't adequately address the real situations" thing. Even if Biden had plans for doing that, no way to get it through congress. I agree with you that incremental change isn't going to cut it, but it won't be possible to get that stuff through congress without a 60% majority.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
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bigspender wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 17:50:
Also I hope the national guard shoot up those MAGA fuckers. That would actually go a long way to making america great....by swiftly removing some of the worst people in society...

This is an even more egregious incitement to violence than what got Trump banned from Twitter.
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Jan 9, 2021, 20:23
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Jan 9, 2021, 20:23
 
Impeachment proceedings start Monday.
Trump has picked Giuliani for his impeachment defense .
That right there is 25th Amendment worthy.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Jan 9, 2021, 20:15
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JediPunisher wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:06:
I find it surprising that Biden gets so much support here within the gaming community.
Joe Biden is on record against video games, which he believes promotes violence.
He even called gamers "little creeps" and said video games "teach you how to kill people."

You may want to be careful about using out-of-context statements to support an argument...that being said, he's from a generation that doesn't understand that form of technological expression, and I'm sure most people won't fault him for it until he actively marches against it, which he has yet to show he will. Besides, the majority of fear over video game regulation is more towards SCOTUS than POTUS.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
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JediPunisher wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:06:
I find it surprising that Biden gets so much support here within the gaming community.
Well, the fact he isn't a narcissistic, pathological liar, con artist makes him a huge improvement...
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Jan 9, 2021, 20:10
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JediPunisher wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:06:
I find it surprising that Biden gets so much support here within the gaming community.
Joe Biden is on record against video games, which he believes promotes violence.
He even called gamers "little creeps" and said video games "teach you how to kill people."

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7qzfns

I find it strange that gamers align with the GOP, who wishes to ram their religion down our throats and regulate sex, music, video games, porn, explicit movies, and books that they don't like. And while both sides have done all of the above, it's the GOP that makes it a priority. Recall before COVID when school shootings happened every week, and the GOP stated we needed to start regulating video games to curb gun violence?

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Jan 9, 2021, 20:06
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Jan 9, 2021, 20:06
 
I find it surprising that Biden gets so much support here within the gaming community.
Joe Biden is on record against video games, which he believes promotes violence.
He even called gamers "little creeps" and said video games "teach you how to kill people."
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Donald Trump is trying (and failing) to get around Twitter's ban.
Jan 9, 2021, 19:59
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Donald Trump is trying (and failing) to get around Twitter's ban. Jan 9, 2021, 19:59
Jan 9, 2021, 19:59
 
Give baby back his binky!
I love the contrast between Auto-cue Trump vs. Real Trump.
Best wishes to the poor bastards that are trying to keep him tethered to some form of reality.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Jan 9, 2021, 19:58
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jdreyer wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:50:
DarkCntry wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:47:
JediPunisher wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:42:
Detached from reality? Have you seen Biden lately??
During his campaign, Biden often asked voters to support the "Harris-Biden" ticket.
Just recently, he said,
"I took it to instill public confidence in the vaccine. President-elect Harris took hers today for the same reason,"


You know, even if what you're saying is actually proof of anything, it's not a real big deal. I can guarantee you of the 80 million votes for Biden, a vast majority of them didn't vote for him, they voted against Trump. If the day comes during his term where Biden is no longer President, it still will be a far better situation than having Trump for another 4 years concreting his groundwork to never leave office.

First, men who make it to 79, like Biden, pass away at age 89 on average.

Second, Harris would make a fine President, should Biden pass away prematurely. She's smart, articulate, charismatic, and knows the law. She's had to weight evidence and make tough decisions for decades. That's what a president does.

I don't much care for Biden/Harris' overarching platform because it doesn't adequately address the real situations in the nation, nor does it allow avenues to start alleviating these issues, but I don't disagree with much of your statement.

Either way, I didn't vote Biden/Harris because of their platform but because of it not being Trump....and the fact that we're stuck in a forever two-party system.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Jan 9, 2021, 19:56
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Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:50:
I'm not going to deny it, Biden has goofed and executed foot in mouth plenty. But you don't want to compare that to some of the things Trump says. Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

In Biden's case, it's usually a mistake. When it's not, it's in the heat of the moment. It's not pathological like another certain somebody.

There are hundreds of Biden stories out there showing what a truly kind hearted person he is.

Toward the end of the service, a door at the back of the laundry room opened, and who walks in but Senator Joe Biden, his head lowered, all by himself. Senator Biden stood quietly in the back of the room for the duration of the service. At the close of the kaddish, I walked over to him and asked the same question that must have been on everyone else’s mind: “Senator Biden — what are you doing here?”

And he said to me: “Listen, back in 1972, when I first ran for Senate, Mrs. Greenhouse gave $18 to my first campaign. Because that’s what she could afford. And every six years, when I’d run for reelection, she’d give another $18. She did it her whole life. I’m here to show my respect and gratitude.” Now, the number 18 is significant in the Jewish faith — its numbers spell out the Hebrew word chai, as in “to life, to life, l’chayim!” But it’s also a humble amount. Joe Biden knew that. And he respected that.

There were no news outlets at our service that day — no Jewish reporters or important dignitaries. Just a few elderly mourners in a basement laundry room. Joe Biden didn’t come to that service for political gain. He came to that service because he has character. He came to that service because he’s a mensch.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Jan 9, 2021, 19:54
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Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:50:
I'm not going to deny it, Biden has goofed and executed foot in mouth plenty. But you don't want to compare that to some of the things Trump says. Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

Exactly. It's well-known Biden has a speech impediment he has had to overcome. It causes him to misuse words, stutter, lose his train of thought. It has nothing to do with his intelligence or age.

Meanwhile, Trump can ramble on nonstop for hours. But what does he say when he speaks? It's utter garbage and nonsense. Listen to Biden's public statement to the Trump Coup, and listen to what Trump said. One is an intelligent leader who called for the nation to come together. The other is an unqualified con man who was happy with what happened and hopes it happens again.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
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It didn't take long for a sufferer of OANN/Newsmax/Q@n0n intoxication to appear and spew ignorance.
I knew their absence was too good to be true.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Jan 9, 2021, 19:50
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DarkCntry wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:47:
JediPunisher wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:42:
Detached from reality? Have you seen Biden lately??
During his campaign, Biden often asked voters to support the "Harris-Biden" ticket.
Just recently, he said,
"I took it to instill public confidence in the vaccine. President-elect Harris took hers today for the same reason,"


You know, even if what you're saying is actually proof of anything, it's not a real big deal. I can guarantee you of the 80 million votes for Biden, a vast majority of them didn't vote for him, they voted against Trump. If the day comes during his term where Biden is no longer President, it still will be a far better situation than having Trump for another 4 years concreting his groundwork to never leave office.

First, men who make it to 79, like Biden, pass away at age 89 on average.

Second, Harris would make a fine President, should Biden pass away prematurely. She's smart, articulate, charismatic, and knows the law. She's had to weigh evidence and make tough decisions for decades. That's what a president does.
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