jdreyer wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:58:I believe that photo is from the Lincoln Memorial, but it doesn't change the question. If a crowd of two thousand or more pushes in against something like that, what are they going to do? Are they going to open fire?
When BLM protested in Washington earlier this year, here was the police presence at the Capitol. If it had been the same on Wednesday, none of this would have happened. It was an epic failure to take the threat seriously.
Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:54:
I have to say, one of my thoughts early on after the riot was wondering this: If there had been the kind of law enforcement presence we saw around so many of the BLM marches, what would have happened? Would the protesters still have tried to force their way in? And if they still had, would there be dozens of dead rioters? If the result was dozens of dead rioters would that have been better or worse than what did happen?
DarkCntry wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:48:jdreyer wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:43:DarkCntry wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:58:
I don't much care for Biden/Harris' overarching platform because it doesn't adequately address the real situations in the nation, nor does it allow avenues to start alleviating these issues, but I don't disagree with much of your statement.
Either way, I didn't vote Biden/Harris because of their platform but because of it not being Trump....and the fact that we're stuck in a forever two-party system.
Well, good luck with that whole "doesn't adequately address the real situations" thing. Even if Biden had plans for doing that, no way to get it through congress. I agree with you that incremental change isn't going to cut it, but it won't be possible to get that stuff through congress without a 60% majority.
I agree, the two-party system with absolutely the minimalist amount of checks and balances makes it's a near-impossible thing to get anything to actually right the boat so-to-speak.
jdreyer wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:43:DarkCntry wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:58:
I don't much care for Biden/Harris' overarching platform because it doesn't adequately address the real situations in the nation, nor does it allow avenues to start alleviating these issues, but I don't disagree with much of your statement.
Either way, I didn't vote Biden/Harris because of their platform but because of it not being Trump....and the fact that we're stuck in a forever two-party system.
Well, good luck with that whole "doesn't adequately address the real situations" thing. Even if Biden had plans for doing that, no way to get it through congress. I agree with you that incremental change isn't going to cut it, but it won't be possible to get that stuff through congress without a 60% majority.
Dunkirk wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:39:bigspender wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 17:50:
Also I hope the national guard shoot up those MAGA fuckers. That would actually go a long way to making america great....by swiftly removing some of the worst people in society...
This is an even more egregious incitement to violence than what got Trump banned from Twitter.
Dunkirk wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:39:bigspender wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 17:50:
Also I hope the national guard shoot up those MAGA fuckers. That would actually go a long way to making america great....by swiftly removing some of the worst people in society...
This is an even more egregious incitement to violence than what got Trump banned from Twitter.
DarkCntry wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:58:
I don't much care for Biden/Harris' overarching platform because it doesn't adequately address the real situations in the nation, nor does it allow avenues to start alleviating these issues, but I don't disagree with much of your statement.
Either way, I didn't vote Biden/Harris because of their platform but because of it not being Trump....and the fact that we're stuck in a forever two-party system.
bigspender wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 17:50:
Also I hope the national guard shoot up those MAGA fuckers. That would actually go a long way to making america great....by swiftly removing some of the worst people in society...
JediPunisher wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:06:
I find it surprising that Biden gets so much support here within the gaming community.
Joe Biden is on record against video games, which he believes promotes violence.
He even called gamers "little creeps" and said video games "teach you how to kill people."
JediPunisher wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:06:Well, the fact he isn't a narcissistic, pathological liar, con artist makes him a huge improvement...
I find it surprising that Biden gets so much support here within the gaming community.
JediPunisher wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 20:06:
I find it surprising that Biden gets so much support here within the gaming community.
Joe Biden is on record against video games, which he believes promotes violence.
He even called gamers "little creeps" and said video games "teach you how to kill people."
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7qzfns
jdreyer wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:50:DarkCntry wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:47:JediPunisher wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:42:
Detached from reality? Have you seen Biden lately??
During his campaign, Biden often asked voters to support the "Harris-Biden" ticket.
Just recently, he said,
"I took it to instill public confidence in the vaccine. President-elect Harris took hers today for the same reason,"
You know, even if what you're saying is actually proof of anything, it's not a real big deal. I can guarantee you of the 80 million votes for Biden, a vast majority of them didn't vote for him, they voted against Trump. If the day comes during his term where Biden is no longer President, it still will be a far better situation than having Trump for another 4 years concreting his groundwork to never leave office.
First, men who make it to 79, like Biden, pass away at age 89 on average.
Second, Harris would make a fine President, should Biden pass away prematurely. She's smart, articulate, charismatic, and knows the law. She's had to weight evidence and make tough decisions for decades. That's what a president does.
Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:50:
I'm not going to deny it, Biden has goofed and executed foot in mouth plenty. But you don't want to compare that to some of the things Trump says. Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.
Toward the end of the service, a door at the back of the laundry room opened, and who walks in but Senator Joe Biden, his head lowered, all by himself. Senator Biden stood quietly in the back of the room for the duration of the service. At the close of the kaddish, I walked over to him and asked the same question that must have been on everyone else’s mind: “Senator Biden — what are you doing here?”
And he said to me: “Listen, back in 1972, when I first ran for Senate, Mrs. Greenhouse gave $18 to my first campaign. Because that’s what she could afford. And every six years, when I’d run for reelection, she’d give another $18. She did it her whole life. I’m here to show my respect and gratitude.” Now, the number 18 is significant in the Jewish faith — its numbers spell out the Hebrew word chai, as in “to life, to life, l’chayim!” But it’s also a humble amount. Joe Biden knew that. And he respected that.
There were no news outlets at our service that day — no Jewish reporters or important dignitaries. Just a few elderly mourners in a basement laundry room. Joe Biden didn’t come to that service for political gain. He came to that service because he has character. He came to that service because he’s a mensch.
Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:50:
I'm not going to deny it, Biden has goofed and executed foot in mouth plenty. But you don't want to compare that to some of the things Trump says. Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.
DarkCntry wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:47:JediPunisher wrote on Jan 9, 2021, 19:42:
Detached from reality? Have you seen Biden lately??
During his campaign, Biden often asked voters to support the "Harris-Biden" ticket.
Just recently, he said,
"I took it to instill public confidence in the vaccine. President-elect Harris took hers today for the same reason,"
You know, even if what you're saying is actually proof of anything, it's not a real big deal. I can guarantee you of the 80 million votes for Biden, a vast majority of them didn't vote for him, they voted against Trump. If the day comes during his term where Biden is no longer President, it still will be a far better situation than having Trump for another 4 years concreting his groundwork to never leave office.