CDPR Working on Cyberpunk 2077 Epilepsy Solution

CD PROJEKT RED tweets that as they work on a "more permanent solution" for the potential for Cyberpunk 2077 to cause epileptic seizures, they will add a warning to the EULA for their imminent sci-fi RPG:
Thank you for bringing this up. We’re working on adding a separate warning in the game, aside from the one that exists in the EULA (https://cyberpunk.net/en/user-agreement/). Regarding a more permanent solution, Dev team is currently exploring that and will be implementing it as soon as possible.
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Dec 10, 2020, 00:27
Jivaro
 
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Dec 10, 2020, 00:27
 Jivaro
 
I don't know if it was added since this went public but when I loaded up to play for the first time at 7pm EST there was an epilepsy warning in the intro credits.
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Dec 9, 2020, 12:15
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Re: CDPR Working on Cyberpunk 2077 Epilepsy Solution Dec 9, 2020, 12:15
Dec 9, 2020, 12:15
 El Pit
 
They should put in a warning when you start the game and - if possible - add a mode with lighting that does not trigger a seizure for people at risk. Problem solved. No big thing.
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Dec 9, 2020, 11:58
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Dec 9, 2020, 11:58
 
Steele Johnson wrote on Dec 9, 2020, 11:12:
What about my back problem after sitting for 4 hours? Is there a warning for that? Clown

This isn't comparable. You trying to make this situation look dumber than it is isn't making the situation look dumber.
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Dec 9, 2020, 11:16
Rilcon
 
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Dec 9, 2020, 11:16
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WaltC wrote on Dec 9, 2020, 09:58:
I've seen epilepsy seizure warnings in various computer games for the last twenty years, at least. Anyone who is an epileptic knows he's an epileptic long before he sits down with his first computer game, imo. It makes no sense at all to believe that CDPR deliberately put in a seizure-causing presentation--that's a ridiculous idea. For what purpose--to open themselves up to massive lawsuits and ill will? I don't think so. If epileptics see these warnings and ignore them, it's on them 100%. Even so, games with seizure warnings aren't guaranteed to "cause seizures" in anyone. Epileptics not on corrective meds have to be careful around many potential environments that might set off a seizure, some computer games being among the many possible triggers.

The warning is in the EULA, aka the thing nobody ever reads because it's written by lawyers that don't want you to read it.

Plenty of people don't ever suffer an episode of photosensitive epilepsy their entire lives despite being susceptible to it because they've never had the "proper" type of strobing lights flashed into their face, and many only realize they are after it first happens to them in a "live environment".

The game deliberately mimics the sort of strobing lights used to intentionally trigger photosensitive epileptic seizures. While their intention was very unlikely to be "let's give someone a seizure", they clearly thought "this thing that looks like it could give someone a seizure looks like a cool way to tell the player we're connecting them to super-VR".


But I get it, ~lmao at that 70yo woman that had her crotch literally melt off for spilling hot coffee served in a drive-way etc.
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Dec 9, 2020, 11:12
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Dec 9, 2020, 11:12
 
What about my back problem after sitting for 4 hours? Is there a warning for that? Clown
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Dec 9, 2020, 09:58
 
I've seen epilepsy seizure warnings in various computer games for the last twenty years, at least. Anyone who is an epileptic knows he's an epileptic long before he sits down with his first computer game, imo. It makes no sense at all to believe that CDPR deliberately put in a seizure-causing presentation--that's a ridiculous idea. For what purpose--to open themselves up to massive lawsuits and ill will? I don't think so. If epileptics see these warnings and ignore them, it's on them 100%. Even so, games with seizure warnings aren't guaranteed to "cause seizures" in anyone. Epileptics not on corrective meds have to be careful around many potential environments that might set off a seizure, some computer games being among the many possible triggers.
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Dec 9, 2020, 07:03
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Dec 9, 2020, 07:03
 
Well I'm now well read on what happens and when it happens. So I will trigger the event in game and look away. Hopefully a mod or CDPR puts a toggle or modifies the entire scene. I'm probably not photosensitive but I'm not paying for/playing a game to find out if I am. Then the wife will have to call an ambulance for me... for playing a damned video game.
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Dec 9, 2020, 06:50
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Dec 9, 2020, 06:50
 
Should be an option. That way people who have seizures are kept safe and the rest of us can enjoy the game as intended by the devs.
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Dec 9, 2020, 03:59
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Dec 9, 2020, 03:59
 Rilcon
 
https://twitter.com/DirtyEffinHippy/status/1336204870970433536
Warning: I’ve been sent hundreds of videos disguised as support that are deliberate flashing to induce photosensitive triggers. If you’re sharing this saying you’re epileptic and receive a video, don’t press play. I’m back to being on my ass.

Some Blues News posters' likely reaction to this: "Just stop using the internet sweetie, it has flashing lights :^) "

Gamers truly are The Worst.
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Dec 9, 2020, 03:17
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VaranDragon wrote on Dec 9, 2020, 02:42:
The devs literally put in an epilepsy causing part in the gameplay that is used in the real world to trigger seizures. A label in this case is not enough. That little part needs to be adjusted.

Yeah, reading the actual descriptions of the in game device, that closely resembles a real life seizure-causing medical device, make it seem like they just need to scrap that thing entirely, and put a solid color light, or whatever in place of it. Before somebody who is unaware of their own photosensitivity plays that part of the game and possibly dies.

It's not like they are talking about removing all the neon lights from the game or something.
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Dec 9, 2020, 02:42
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The devs literally put in an epilepsy causing part in the gameplay that is used in the real world to trigger seizures. A label in this case is not enough. That little part needs to be adjusted.
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Dec 8, 2020, 22:44
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Ranger55 wrote on Dec 8, 2020, 22:38:
For our next trick, we will develop a hair dryer that does not actually electrocute you if you ignore the "do not submerge in water while plugged in" warning and do it anyway.

Sure, this analogy would work if Cyberpunk had a warning (it did not), or if submerging the hair dryer in water was a necessary part of completing its usage (as the intentional seizure sequence is in Cyberpunk.)

You're outraged by this outrage because you're oversimplifying it so that it sounds stupid. The reality is that CDPR created a mission designed to create seizures, and put it in there without warning the people it would cause seizures in ahead of time, and didn't give any way to complete the mission without seizures.
Certainly a different situation than the one you imagined so that you could feel superior.

Some here are so quick to get furious over something that may impact them and so quick to try to strawman anything that can't. "Wait, this only impacts people physically different than me? Then clearly it's wrong to want to change. But if it impacted me, well, there'd be hell to pay!"
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For our next trick, we will develop a hair dryer that does not actually electrocute you if you ignore the "do not submerge in water while plugged in" warning and do it anyway.
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Dec 8, 2020, 20:58
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Cutter wrote on Dec 8, 2020, 20:51:
Yeah, but what about my <insert problem or cause to be outraged over>?!?!
Did that thing that outraged you so (which appears to be literally everything) intentionally simulate how to trigger a seizure so well that it actually did trigger a seizure?
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Yeah, but what about my <insert problem or cause to be outraged over>?!?!
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