Out of the Blue

I had an experience yesterday that recalls a frustrating story related to my first PC. That happened when I installed an 80286 accelerator card into my 8088-based XT back in the day. This "turbo" XT was capable of running at 8 MHz, and the accelerator would sometimes lock up when it tried to boot into that blistering speed, requiring a reset to get it to properly run at 4.77 MHz. I continued to use this PC for a few years after the upgrade, and when it was time to junk it, I took apart the innards. Only then did I notice the 80286 card had a jumper that would have allowed it to run at 8 MHz. You can imagine my irritation when I realized I was missing out on added performance for years. This brings us to yesterday, when I installed a program tastefully named Blue Stacks that allows PCs to run Android apps. The installer informed me that the program would perform better if I turned on CPU virtualization. So I headed off to my BIOS to enable it. While there I noticed a setting called "Limit CPUID Maximum" that was also turned off. There was an explanation that this should be off for Windows XP, so I turned it on. I was pretty shocked when I booted the machine after those changes and found that this had cleared up an annoying bit of input lag I have experienced since my "upgrade" to Windows 10. I don't think I changed anything else, but it feels like I must have, because what I read about those settings does not seem to explain the performance improvements I've seen. This doesn't seem to be a factor in games, so that's sort of the good news that I haven't been missing out all this time along with the bad news that I'm not getting a free performance upgrade. The other good news is that I discovered this before this PC hit end of life like my 286 card and that I never noticed the lag I'm discussing under Windows 7. This machine is actually over seven years old now(!), but it still handles all the games I play. And now that the bit of lag is gone from my desktop apps I don't have any real reason to upgrade yet. Maybe this outlook will change when Cyberpunk 2077 hits. I'll just have to see.

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Dec 3, 2020, 10:00
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Oh yeah an he conveniently ignored the fact where my otherwise 45 year old friend in the prime of his life ended up bedridden for two plus weeks with pneumonia, and basically SENT HOME from the hospital because his case wasn't severe enough, and there were no beds or doctors available due to....guess what? COVID!!! Jesus....this has really riled me up.
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Dec 3, 2020, 09:55
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VaranDragon wrote on Dec 3, 2020, 09:54:
If this is your takeaway from what I wrote then I feel very sorry for you my friend. You seem to suffer from a very specific set of cognitive dissonance.

I'd bet $100 that he thinks Parler is a better source of information than either the CDC or the New York Times, but no one here would take me up on that.
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DukeFNukem wrote on Dec 3, 2020, 09:48:

People die all the time on airplanes, motorcycles, trains, skydiving, rock climbing. Why take the chance? Sure the statistics of people who die flying on planes is small, but still, why take the chance? Anybody got any stories of somebody they know who died on a plane or motorcycle so that we can be safe by not doing those things any more? *face palm*

Weirdly, there are lots of rules and regulations about how we fly airplanes, ride motorcycles, and engineer trains. Wacky.

I wonder if you complain about seatbelt laws and pilots licenses. "How dare the FAA tell me where I can fly? If I want to buzz the White House I'll damn well do so!"
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DukeFNukem wrote on Dec 3, 2020, 09:48:
VaranDragon wrote on Dec 3, 2020, 02:57:
Let me share my experience with Covid. It's relatively light compared to what was written here but it is still sobering as to how dangerous it can be.

So I play in a a band. We got together for rehearsal about two and a half weeks ago on a Sunday. We were avoiding playing together up until then as there are no gigs to be had during this time, but on Monday we were due in a recording studio to record a new tune and felt we had to practice it some. We played for about an hour and a half, two tops. All of us were healthy no symptoms. The very next day, early in the morning our singer let us know that he developed flu like symptoms with a body temperature of 38.5. We all went into self-isolation just as a precaution. Anyways to cut a long story short, he managed to infect ALL of us. Yes we all got tested. That's 5 other people that were there (4 others in band, 1 producer who was with us for 15 minutes!) All of us developed relatively mild, flu like symptoms except for our other guitarist, who developed early onset pneumonia had pretty high body temperature for two weeks before finally pulling through. He is still bedridden. They wouldn't admit him to a hospital due to being swamped by more serious cases of Covid 19. Gave him some antibiotics and sent him home.

100% infection rate from our singer who we later found out attended a wedding three days prior and didn't let us know. (Where he probably got infected).

Im not saying everyone is that infectious, but apparently there are people out there who are.

So yeah. There it is. Stay safe. For most this is a trivial disease, but why take the chance you end up being one of the few for whom it isn't. Or even worse, infect someone else who ends up having serious complications.

A body temperature of 38.5? Was he dead? You mean 98.5, okay.

Stay safe how? By not living your life at all? By letting fear of a germ rule every aspect of your very existence? Why take the chance? Because life is a chance. Because everybody dies. There are now over 12 million confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the United States. If you know anything about exponents, you know that there is nothing you can do to prevent the spread now short of immersing yourself in a black pod filled with red jello and a breathing tube and remaining in suspended animation for the rest of your life.

People die all the time on airplanes, motorcycles, trains, skydiving, rock climbing. Why take the chance? Sure the statistics of people who die flying on planes is small, but still, why take the chance? Anybody got any stories of somebody they know who died on a plane or motorcycle so that we can be safe by not doing those things any more? *face palm*

Statistics tell us what we need to fear. And statistics show us that COVID-19 is really nothing to be fearful of. The less exposure you have to viruses the more weak your immune system becomes. You're not going to prevent anything from spreading at this point by looking like a mental patient because you're wearing a mask, when driving down the highway in your car with a mask on.

With a 99% + recovery rate for most people and a 95%+ recovery rate for elderly people it's insane that were still talking about this bitch called COVID-19 as though it were the most ferocious killing virus on the planet. It's not. The only pandemic going on right now is one of brainwashing people into thinking that the only solution to a virus that has one of the lowest case fatality rates in history is a rushed vaccine. Sorry, vaccines aren't magic bullets for old people. Everybody dies.

When they can produce a vaccine that gives me eternal life I might be interested in that one. Until then, it's all snakeoil sales gimmicks. It's all about the Benjamins!

If this is your takeaway from what I wrote then I feel very sorry for you my friend. You seem to suffer from a very specific set of cognitive dissonance. The problem with Covid is that it is EXTREMELY transmissive, but it doesn't have to be if all you do is take a little care. Do you really want to be responsible for someone's death? Seriously do you? Or let me put it another way. You end up in a hospital due to a freeclimbing, motorcycling, biking, skydiving, or whatever-the-fuck accident and you end up getting terrible care because ALL THE GODDAMN DOCTORS ARE IN THE COVID WARDS!

Now do you get it???
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Dec 3, 2020, 09:42
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Dec 3, 2020, 09:42
 
My PC is a Z77 based board running an i5-2500(non-k) with 16gb of ram that I built back in early 2012 and is still running great. I can play every game I have loaded although I haven't played many games made in the last few years, mostly stuff from 3-4 yrs prior and earlier(working through Steam backlog while unemployed). The only things I have upgraded are storage(ssd) and GPU(bought an R9-390 at X-mas 2015 and has been a great card). I have had to replace the CPU fan twice, GPU fans once and one case fan but otherwise been a great system and I still don't feel like I NEED to upgrade although I would like to once I am employed again.
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Dec 3, 2020, 09:24
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Mr. Tact wrote on Dec 3, 2020, 09:06:
I'd have to say that's very irresponsible of your singer. If I were you, I'd be extremely unhappy with him...

Oh yeah, you bet he's gonna be eating crud for a while. He's lucky that we are all great friends, and that he is such a great singer.
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I'd have to say that's very irresponsible of your singer. If I were you, I'd be extremely unhappy with him...
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Dec 3, 2020, 02:57
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Dec 3, 2020, 02:57
 
Let me share my experience with Covid. It's relatively light compared to what was written here but it is still sobering as to how dangerous it can be.

So I play in a a band. We got together for rehearsal about two and a half weeks ago on a Sunday. We were avoiding playing together up until then as there are no gigs to be had during this time, but on Monday we were due in a recording studio to record a new tune and felt we had to practice it some. We played for about an hour and a half, two tops. All of us were healthy no symptoms. The very next day, early in the morning our singer let us know that he developed flu like symptoms with a body temperature of 38.5. We all went into self-isolation just as a precaution. Anyways to cut a long story short, he managed to infect ALL of us. Yes we all got tested. That's 5 other people that were there (4 others in band, 1 producer who was with us for 15 minutes!) All of us developed relatively mild, flu like symptoms except for our other guitarist, who developed early onset pneumonia had pretty high body temperature for two weeks before finally pulling through. He is still bedridden. They wouldn't admit him to a hospital due to being swamped by more serious cases of Covid 19. Gave him some antibiotics and sent him home.

100% infection rate from our singer who we later found out attended a wedding three days prior and didn't let us know. (Where he probably got infected).

Im not saying everyone is that infectious, but apparently there are people out there who are.

So yeah. There it is. Stay safe. For most this is a trivial disease, but why take the chance you end up being one of the few for whom it isn't. Or even worse, infect someone else who ends up having serious complications.

This comment was edited on Dec 3, 2020, 03:10.
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WannaLogAlready wrote on Dec 2, 2020, 19:13:
My father passed on november 26th.
Pneumonia and Covid, 95 years old.
He was very healthy and spry before, lived very well and had a kind wife (no symptoms so far).
Take care all.

Sorry for your loss. 95...hell of a good run though.
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RedEye9 wrote on Dec 2, 2020, 18:46:
I think I mentioned before that the i5 3570k was the go to cpu for it's time.
I wish I'd bought one but i cheapened out and went with the $120 AMD A10-5800K, if memory serves the 3570 was closer to $230.

IIRC I paid a bit over $200 for it, yeah. That's usually my limit for procs: $200-250.
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WannaLogAlready wrote on Dec 2, 2020, 19:13:
My father passed on november 26th.
Pneumonia and Covid, 95 years old.
He was very healthy and spry before, lived very well and had a kind wife (no symptoms so far).
Take care all.

My condolences. My 90 year old father in-law was just diagnosed with stage 4 cancer, so I'm right there with you.
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Vaccines administered: 711M - - - Vaccine deaths: 7 - - - Death rate: 0.00000001%
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WannaLogAlready wrote on Dec 2, 2020, 19:13:
My father passed on november 26th.
Pneumonia and Covid, 95 years old.
He was very healthy and spry before, lived very well and had a kind wife (no symptoms so far).
Take care all.
I'm sorry to hear that. Sounds like he had a good long life. I hope his wife is doing ok and you to.
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Dec 2, 2020, 19:13
 
My father passed on november 26th.
Pneumonia and Covid, 95 years old.
He was very healthy and spry before, lived very well and had a kind wife (no symptoms so far).
Take care all.
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Dec 2, 2020, 18:46
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I think I mentioned before that the i5 3570k was the go to cpu for it's time.
I wish I'd bought one but i cheapened out and went with the $120 AMD A10-5800K, if memory serves the 3570 was closer to $230.
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jdreyer wrote on Dec 2, 2020, 17:30:
Steele Johnson wrote on Dec 2, 2020, 17:08:
Ahh, the good 'ol 286 processor, back in the day when you upgraded your cpu every 6 months. And here we are today, using our 5 - 10 year old cpus. Funny how times change
Yeah, my Intel 3570K Core i5 is 8.5 years old, and still chugging. I don't really notice any problem with games. I keep meaning to upgrade to a new AMD, but since this one still works fine, I have a hard time justifying it to myself.

Yeah, if it's just gaming and browsing, then gpu and drives is all you really need to swap out here and there. My problem is that I do a lot of audio/video editing, and the software I use is starting to demand more cpu/cores. It will be nice to have a few of those really fast m.2 nvme modules as well. I've got my newegg build list just waiting for restock, but I think I'll be waiting for quite while
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Burrito of Peace wrote on Dec 2, 2020, 14:04:
The only thing I could add would be to echo her last three sentences. Wear a mask. Wear it properly. Stay home.

One of my coworker's friends just passed from COVID. He was an ER doc.

My biggest concern with this virus is that millions of COVID survivors will have ongoing lifelong health issues that cost trillions of dollars that sap our economy and capability at an international level. Our country will decline precipitously simply because half our citizens didn't believe the virus was real.
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Blue wrote on Dec 2, 2020, 17:19:
Steele Johnson wrote on Dec 2, 2020, 17:08:
Ahh, the good 'ol 286 processor, back in the day when you upgraded your cpu every 6 months. And here we are today, using our 5 - 10 year old cpus. Funny how times change

I was thinking the exact same thing when I went back and saw I built this machine in September 2013. For this I even used a previous-generation CPU at the time. The fourth-gen Core 2 processors were already out, but I got an i5-3570K. I overclocked it to 4GHz and it's still running like a top seven years later. I definitely upgraded within 6 months at least once back in the day.

Yup, I'm still sportin' an i7 3930k that came out 9 1/2 years ago. The only reason I think it's time for me to upgrade is because everything is starting to get really hot (and I even replaced cpu fan a couple times), my 32GB or mem is now 24GB (one of the channels is not working. Who needs 32GB anyway?), and my music production software is starting to bog down a bit. Otherwise, gaming is still pretty good (with a 1070). Unfortunately, I picked a pretty bad time to build a new rig, considering that it's not easy to find the components that I want. Oh well, I guess I can go another year Grin2
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Steele Johnson wrote on Dec 2, 2020, 17:08:
Ahh, the good 'ol 286 processor, back in the day when you upgraded your cpu every 6 months. And here we are today, using our 5 - 10 year old cpus. Funny how times change
Yeah, my Intel 3570K Core i5 is 8.5 years old, and still chugging. I don't really notice any problem with games. I keep meaning to upgrade to a new AMD, but since this one still works fine, I have a hard time justifying it to myself.
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Vaccines administered: 711M - - - Vaccine deaths: 7 - - - Death rate: 0.00000001%
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Steele Johnson wrote on Dec 2, 2020, 17:08:
Ahh, the good 'ol 286 processor, back in the day when you upgraded your cpu every 6 months. And here we are today, using our 5 - 10 year old cpus. Funny how times change

I was thinking the exact same thing when I went back and saw I built this machine in September 2013. For this I even used a previous-generation CPU at the time. The fourth-gen Core 2 processors were already out, but I got an i5-3570K. I overclocked it to 4GHz and it's still running like a top seven years later. I definitely upgraded within 6 months at least once back in the day.
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