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eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 17, 2020, 07:23:
...The troubles were never really fixed, only delayed. And worse, with Brexit, Northern Ireland can choose to be outside of the EU (that means military protected border right through the country think east/west germany) or inside the EU (that means EU sea-border, patrolled, with UK but soft border to Ireland) and I wonder if the UK even gives that choice to Northern Ireland...
Yep. Although I don't see how the UK can think keeping Northern Ireland is the best idea since the thought of installing a physical obstruction at the Ireland/Northern Ireland border should scare the living hell out of anyone who would consider doing such a thing. How unhappy is Scotland over not getting another chance to separate? As I understand it, they can't do another referendum on leaving the UK without the UK parliament allowing it, which of course they are loath to do at this time. The 2014 vote was 55/45 in favor of staying in the UK. It wouldn't surprise me if I live to see the end of the UK and Great Britain -- although I suspect Wales will not separate so a diminished GB might survive.
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Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 16, 2020, 20:39:
eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 16, 2020, 19:49:
There is no decision yet and the way it's going there won't be until it literally is too late. The article is also flat out ignoring (like pretty much all UK media always does) that this new law they want to put into effect nullifies the "Good Friday Agreement" - and legally Northern Ireland would be part of the EU and not of the UK or at least it wouldn't be clear what exactly it's legal status even IS. It's a clusterfuck waiting for us for new year.
Thank you for the information. I guess it should be no surprise they have failed to make any critical decisions since 31 Jan 2020. Both because it is what the UK has been doing concerning Brexit for literally years and getting anything productive done in 2020 is pretty close to impossible. And yes, I am aware of the issues around the Good Friday Agreement, which is part of the reason I was surprised when you said NI wasn't part of the UK anymore. It sounds like if they have managed to make any progress in solving the difficult problem of the NI borders they have failed to notify anyone outside the process. Somehow I am not optimistic they are holding back on good news. As far as I can tell, Northern Ireland is pretty much the only place in the "West" where politics are more contentious than those in the US -- which is saying something...

In the end it's complicated EU legal stuff and I do not claim that I understand most of it. The troubles were never really fixed, only delayed. And worse, with Brexit, Northern Ireland can choose to be outside of the EU (that means military protected border right through the country think east/west germany) or inside the EU (that means EU sea-border, patrolled, with UK but soft border to Ireland) and I wonder if the UK even gives that choice to Northern Ireland, if you ask me there should be a referendum because hot damn if that isn't an important question to ask I don't know what is. This also means that the Brexit won't be a thing for Northern Ireland. It would still have to live under EU law and regulations..... heh. I wonder which mess the UK chooses.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
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eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 16, 2020, 19:49:
There is no decision yet and the way it's going there won't be until it literally is too late. The article is also flat out ignoring (like pretty much all UK media always does) that this new law they want to put into effect nullifies the "Good Friday Agreement" - and legally Northern Ireland would be part of the EU and not of the UK or at least it wouldn't be clear what exactly it's legal status even IS. It's a clusterfuck waiting for us for new year.
Thank you for the information. I guess it should be no surprise they have failed to make any critical decisions since 31 Jan 2020. Both because it is what the UK has been doing concerning Brexit for literally years and getting anything productive done in 2020 is pretty close to impossible. And yes, I am aware of the issues around the Good Friday Agreement, which is part of the reason I was surprised when you said NI wasn't part of the UK anymore. It sounds like if they have managed to make any progress in solving the difficult problem of the NI borders they have failed to notify anyone outside the process. Somehow I am not optimistic they are holding back on good news. As far as I can tell, Northern Ireland is pretty much the only place in the "West" where politics are more contentious than those in the US -- which is saying something...
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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Re: Morning Metaverse
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Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 16, 2020, 18:10:
RedEye9 wrote on Nov 16, 2020, 18:00:
Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 16, 2020, 17:41:
eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 16, 2020, 15:00:
Technically Northern Ireland isn't part of the UK anymore once the Brexit finalizes.. just saying
Is that settled? I was under the impression it was one of the major "issues" to be dealt with in negotiations and everything I read about it indicated everyone was expecting it to be a very difficult problem...
What happens to Northern Ireland on 31 December, deal or no deal?
Hmm. How was it decided whether Northern Ireland would remain in the UK or the EU? Was there another vote in NI after the Brexit vote? And are they now going for independent country status or rejoining Ireland? I did some Googling and couldn't find anything concrete...

There is no decision yet and the way it's going there won't be until it literally is too late. The article is also flat out ignoring (like pretty much all UK media always does) that this new law they want to put into effect nullifies the "Good Friday Agreement" - and legally Northern Ireland would be part of the EU and not of the UK or at least it wouldn't be clear what exactly it's legal status even IS. It's a clusterfuck waiting for us for new year.
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Nov 16, 2020, 18:11
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Finally, jeez. I jumped on the HBO max sale price for the sub (it's rare for HBO to go on sale), and then it really irritated me that I couldn't watch on my fire stick. Yeah I know I can sideload, but that's a pain. Or I could hook up to a laptop and play that way, still a pain. I want to be able to choose prime, hulu, netflix, etc or HBO max right from one place.
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Nov 16, 2020, 18:10
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RedEye9 wrote on Nov 16, 2020, 18:00:
Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 16, 2020, 17:41:
eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 16, 2020, 15:00:
Technically Northern Ireland isn't part of the UK anymore once the Brexit finalizes.. just saying
Is that settled? I was under the impression it was one of the major "issues" to be dealt with in negotiations and everything I read about it indicated everyone was expecting it to be a very difficult problem...
What happens to Northern Ireland on 31 December, deal or no deal?
Hmm. How was it decided whether Northern Ireland would remain in the UK or the EU? Was there another vote in NI after the Brexit vote? And are they now going for independent country status or rejoining Ireland? I did some Googling and couldn't find anything concrete...
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 16, 2020, 17:41:
eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 16, 2020, 15:00:
Technically Northern Ireland isn't part of the UK anymore once the Brexit finalizes.. just saying
Is that settled? I was under the impression it was one of the major "issues" to be dealt with in negotiations and everything I read about it indicated everyone was expecting it to be a very difficult problem...
What happens to Northern Ireland on 31 December, deal or no deal?
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Re: Morning Metaverse
Nov 16, 2020, 17:41
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Nov 16, 2020, 17:41
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 16, 2020, 15:00:
Technically Northern Ireland isn't part of the UK anymore once the Brexit finalizes.. just saying
Is that settled? I was under the impression it was one of the major "issues" to be dealt with in negotiations and everything I read about it indicated everyone was expecting it to be a very difficult problem...
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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Technically Northern Ireland isn't part of the UK anymore once the Brexit finalizes.. just saying
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