Out of the Blue

As The Who once put it, "I can 'c' for miles and miles." I'm suffering from a minor problem on my mechanical keyboard, as it's frequently typing the letter "c" two times for one keystroke. I had a similar issue with my spacebar in the past, and was able to clear it up by prising off the affected (not affeccted as my keyboard just put it) key and cleaning the area beneath. I've tried this to no effect, so when I get a chance I am going to pull all the keycaps and give the whole thing a more thorough cleaning. Hopefully this works. I'll cc: you on the results.

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Cutter wrote on Oct 29, 2020, 17:59:
Quitting smoking is the hardest thing I've ever had to do for an actual addiction.


I've read that nicotine is the most difficult addictive substance to quit.

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RedEye9 wrote on Oct 29, 2020, 18:08:
Is cocaine addictive?
https://www.narconon.org/drug-information/is-cocaine-addictive.html
TLDR
Yes, yes it is.

So are video games. Laugh2
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I actually think what Mate is saying is between where you two are.

No substance is 100% addictive. There are people that have done heroin without getting addicted. There needs to be something in the person that leads to the addiction, as well.

But I do not think he's saying that heroin isn't physically addictive to many people.
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A couple other addictive substances are "legal" but highly taxed and regulated, alcohol and nicotine.
Both have killed millions.

Addiction is real.
It does not matter what podcast you heard, website you browsed or bookclub author you read that says otherwise.
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RedEye9 wrote on Oct 30, 2020, 08:47:
I'll stick with what medical professionals believe.

Dr. Gabor Maté is the foremost medical professional in this field.

But I guess if you choose to experience cognitive dissonance, cherry pick your "professionals", ignore the new consensus and continue to spew outdated drug war propaganda, I have to respect that choice, no matter how dumb it is.

GL with your issues mate.
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I'll stick with what medical professionals believe.
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RedEye9 wrote on Oct 29, 2020, 18:48:
Is heroin addictive.
Yes, even heroin is addictive.
https://www.ci2i.research.va.gov/CI2IRESEARCH/docs/rrheroin.pdf

No it's not. Heroïn is used to treat patients ( under a different pharma brand name ) at the hospital. Once recovered, only a statistically insignificant minority develops an addiction and those that do are already prone to developing addictions or already had addictions prior to hospital admission.

It's the same drug...

Another landmark case are the Vietnam war soldiers who used vast quantities of drugs when stationed in Nam, once back in the states practically all of them stopped using, and again only a statistically insignificant minority developed an addiction to the drugs they were using in Nam and those that did were either already prone to developing addictions, already had an addiction prior to being stationed in Nam or suffered a deep trauma in Nam making them prone to developing an addiction.

How is it that using the drug does not mean causation of addiction? It's the same drug that's in the streets.

People can develop an addiction to FOOD in the same proportions ( and sometimes higher ) than "addictive" drugs. Is food more addictive than heroïn?

It's not the behavior ( gambling/sex ) or the substance ( drugs/food ) that is addictive, it's HOW AND WHY you gamble/have sex or use a drug and eat. It's all in the overall context.

Saying drugs are addictive has been proven to be a reductionist fallacy, you better deal with it.

That answer is now obvious to scientist experts in the field like Maté. And if you'd just take the time ( and I know you didn't otherwise you wouldn't be in full blown science denial despite being given the science consensus material ) to review the material, you'd finally transition, as the scientific community transitioned a while back to the new consensus.

Culture and people not in the science community often lags behind in these cases, even more so in the case of cultures that built some of their pillars on the kind of outdated info that reinforces the previous consensus biases on certain subjects.

You got all the evidence you need in the link I sent, you have the best, most renowned and acclaimed scientist's name in this field and you know what the new consensus is. You have all the info at this point to make the transition as the scientific community did years ago.

I'm not gonna try to convince you any further, I don't need to, you can either still believe in flat earth, or you can update to the present. Your choice.
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The side effect list was hilarious.
Here’s more on Dave Grohl’s dangerous addiction.
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LPL made short work of those “spice” safes.

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NKD wrote on Oct 29, 2020, 19:51:
RedEye9 wrote on Oct 29, 2020, 18:08:
Is cocaine addictive?
https://www.narconon.org/drug-information/is-cocaine-addictive.html
TLDR
Yes, yes it is.

Why are you linking to a scientology site?
my bad
How’s this. https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/cocaine
Hint, it’s still addictive.
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RedEye9 wrote on Oct 29, 2020, 18:08:
Is cocaine addictive?
https://www.narconon.org/drug-information/is-cocaine-addictive.html
TLDR
Yes, yes it is.

Why are you linking to a scientology site?
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RedEye9 wrote on Oct 29, 2020, 18:14:
Tom Brady has taken one too many hits to the head.
Great example of how you can be an intelligent and educated person, and yet be totally misinformed about specific subjects.
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Oct 29, 2020, 18:48
 
Is heroin addictive.
Yes, even heroin is addictive.
https://www.ci2i.research.va.gov/CI2IRESEARCH/docs/rrheroin.pdf
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RedEye9 wrote on Oct 29, 2020, 18:08:
Is cocaine addictive?
https://www.narconon.org/drug-information/is-cocaine-addictive.html
TLDR
Yes, yes it is.

No it isn't, that's the outdated hypothesis. No single substance in and of itself is addictive, not a single one. It's an old myth that has been debunked time and time again by science and it has to go.

Here's a library of material from the universally acclaimed and foremost scientist on the subject, you can review it at your leisure:

https://drgabormate.com/topic/addiction/
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Tom Brady has taken one too many hits to the head.
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Is cocaine addictive?
https://www.narconon.org/drug-information/is-cocaine-addictive.html
TLDR
Yes, yes it is.
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jdreyer wrote on Oct 29, 2020, 17:55:
How did one contract for such an ad? What kind of mags did they appear in?
Off the top of my head I assume "adult magazines" mostly. I seem to recall seeing some uncommon ads in magazines of that nature in the past.
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Simon Says wrote on Oct 29, 2020, 13:54:
Cocaine has done nothing of the sort.

Addictions did and addictions stem from structural economic and cultural issues manifesting as traumas and psychological problems.

You're conflating the symptom for a cause.

Actually, you're wrong too. The problems surrounding cocaine can be put down to the US gov't outlawing it and forcing others to do so as well. Prior to that cocaine wasn't any more of a problem than weed or alcohol. Addictions aren't just psychological, but physiological. People get hooked on everything regardless if it's physically addictive or not. I used to do a lot of blow back in the day - for a while - and never once did I ever have a problem switching off. In fact, most of the time I'd hit the wall and not want to do any for a good while because the novelty had worn off and it was becoming routine. Quitting smoking is the hardest thing I've ever had to do for an actual addiction.

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RedEye9 wrote on Oct 29, 2020, 12:20:
Rounding the bend/turning the corner
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Cocaine has destroyed millions of families and lives. Millions more are dead due to murders, gang violence, overdoses and suicides.
Memes and glorification of its history are not cool.

I wouldn't say these ads for cocaine paraphernalia are "cool" per se, but their existence is fascinating. They have a very late 70s-early 80s vibe to them. How did one contract for such an ad? What kind of mags did they appear in? They pose lots of questions and offer a window into a time and culture that no longer exists.
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Simon Says wrote on Oct 29, 2020, 13:54:
RedEye9 wrote on Oct 29, 2020, 12:20:
Rounding the bend/turning the corner
Texas County Imposes Curfew To Stem Spike In Coronavirus Cases
,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,
Cocaine has destroyed millions of families and lives. Millions more are dead due to murders, gang violence, overdoses and suicides.
Memes and glorification of its history are not cool.
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Can't believe i forgot race based mass incarceration during the crack years.
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Once the 'c' issue is resolved, I'd be curious to know the key to resolving it. Wink
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