Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook

Upload VR has a confirmation of a report that deleting your Facebook account as an Oculus user will result in disabling your Oculus account as well (thanks Eurogamer). This will remove all your games, purchases, and progress. Here's the message to users deleting Facebook accounts:
Deleting your account is permanent.

When you delete your Facebook account, you won’t be able to retrieve the content or information you’ve shared on Facebook. Your Messenger and all of your messages will also be deleted.

Deleting your Facebook account will also delete your Oculus information.

This includes your app purchases and achievements. You will no longer be able to return any apps and will lose any existing store credits.
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook
Oct 26, 2020, 23:32
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 23:32
Oct 26, 2020, 23:32
 
Orogogus wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 23:21:
Razumen wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 23:05:
Orogogus wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 22:45:
ForgedReality wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 22:22:
HorrorScope wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 18:48:
ForgedReality wrote on Oct 25, 2020, 19:59:
Oculus was always the inferior device anyway.

It is too bad that isn't true. Who has a better all around device than the Oculus Quest? And for $300. I'm not aware. So there's that.

I dunno about the new one but for YEARS, the Vive was far ahead of the Oculus. Better resolution, better refresh rate, no motion sickness... I wouldn't doubt the situation has changed much, considering it's Facebook we're talking about.

The Rift CV1 and the Vive had the same resolution (2160x1200) and refresh rate (90 Hz). The primary advantages of the Vive were 1) better controller tracking, 2) Lighthouses not plugged into the PC, so they didn't have the CV1's early USB issues, and 3) it shipped with motion controllers out the gate. But after the Oculus Touch controllers shipped, the general consensus was that they were better than the Vive wands.

The Vive Pro did improve the resolution, but it was still 90 Hz. Valve introduced higher refresh with the Index.

The Rift had terrible black levels, the Vive used OLED and so its blacks were excellent. That's one thing I think Valve made a mistake with the Index; going back to LCD was a big mistake and is pretty much my biggest complaint with the headset. Everything else is great. Even still using Vive wands, which I think are solid.

Are people posting from an alternate dimension today, or just trolling? The Rift CV1 also used OLED displays, and had basically the same black levels as the Vive.

Yes you're correct, I remembered incorrectly. They DID have an issue with black levels, but that was because Oculus wasn't turning off the pixels completely to prevent smearing, though that could be fixed in software.
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook
Oct 26, 2020, 23:21
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 23:21
Oct 26, 2020, 23:21
 
Razumen wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 23:05:
Orogogus wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 22:45:
ForgedReality wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 22:22:
HorrorScope wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 18:48:
ForgedReality wrote on Oct 25, 2020, 19:59:
Oculus was always the inferior device anyway.

It is too bad that isn't true. Who has a better all around device than the Oculus Quest? And for $300. I'm not aware. So there's that.

I dunno about the new one but for YEARS, the Vive was far ahead of the Oculus. Better resolution, better refresh rate, no motion sickness... I wouldn't doubt the situation has changed much, considering it's Facebook we're talking about.

The Rift CV1 and the Vive had the same resolution (2160x1200) and refresh rate (90 Hz). The primary advantages of the Vive were 1) better controller tracking, 2) Lighthouses not plugged into the PC, so they didn't have the CV1's early USB issues, and 3) it shipped with motion controllers out the gate. But after the Oculus Touch controllers shipped, the general consensus was that they were better than the Vive wands.

The Vive Pro did improve the resolution, but it was still 90 Hz. Valve introduced higher refresh with the Index.

The Rift had terrible black levels, the Vive used OLED and so its blacks were excellent. That's one thing I think Valve made a mistake with the Index; going back to LCD was a big mistake and is pretty much my biggest complaint with the headset. Everything else is great. Even still using Vive wands, which I think are solid.

Are people posting from an alternate dimension today, or just trolling? The Rift CV1 also used OLED displays, and had basically the same black levels as the Vive.
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook
Oct 26, 2020, 23:05
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 23:05
Oct 26, 2020, 23:05
 
Orogogus wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 22:45:
ForgedReality wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 22:22:
HorrorScope wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 18:48:
ForgedReality wrote on Oct 25, 2020, 19:59:
Oculus was always the inferior device anyway.

It is too bad that isn't true. Who has a better all around device than the Oculus Quest? And for $300. I'm not aware. So there's that.

I dunno about the new one but for YEARS, the Vive was far ahead of the Oculus. Better resolution, better refresh rate, no motion sickness... I wouldn't doubt the situation has changed much, considering it's Facebook we're talking about.

The Rift CV1 and the Vive had the same resolution (2160x1200) and refresh rate (90 Hz). The primary advantages of the Vive were 1) better controller tracking, 2) Lighthouses not plugged into the PC, so they didn't have the CV1's early USB issues, and 3) it shipped with motion controllers out the gate. But after the Oculus Touch controllers shipped, the general consensus was that they were better than the Vive wands.

The Vive Pro did improve the resolution, but it was still 90 Hz. Valve introduced higher refresh with the Index.

The Rift had terrible black levels, the Vive used OLED and so its blacks were excellent. That's one thing I think Valve made a mistake with the Index; going back to LCD was a big mistake and is pretty much my biggest complaint with the headset. Everything else is great. Even still using Vive wands, which I think are solid.
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook
Oct 26, 2020, 22:45
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 22:45
Oct 26, 2020, 22:45
 
ForgedReality wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 22:22:
HorrorScope wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 18:48:
ForgedReality wrote on Oct 25, 2020, 19:59:
Oculus was always the inferior device anyway.

It is too bad that isn't true. Who has a better all around device than the Oculus Quest? And for $300. I'm not aware. So there's that.

I dunno about the new one but for YEARS, the Vive was far ahead of the Oculus. Better resolution, better refresh rate, no motion sickness... I wouldn't doubt the situation has changed much, considering it's Facebook we're talking about.

The Rift CV1 and the Vive had the same resolution (2160x1200) and refresh rate (90 Hz). The primary advantages of the Vive were 1) better controller tracking, 2) Lighthouses not plugged into the PC, so they didn't have the CV1's early USB issues, and 3) it shipped with motion controllers out the gate. But after the Oculus Touch controllers shipped, the general consensus was that they were better than the Vive wands.

The Vive Pro did improve the resolution, but it was still 90 Hz. Valve introduced higher refresh with the Index.
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook
Oct 26, 2020, 22:22
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 22:22
Oct 26, 2020, 22:22
 
HorrorScope wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 18:48:
ForgedReality wrote on Oct 25, 2020, 19:59:
Oculus was always the inferior device anyway.

It is too bad that isn't true. Who has a better all around device than the Oculus Quest? And for $300. I'm not aware. So there's that.

I dunno about the new one but for YEARS, the Vive was far ahead of the Oculus. Better resolution, better refresh rate, no motion sickness... I wouldn't doubt the situation has changed much, considering it's Facebook we're talking about.
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook
Oct 26, 2020, 18:48
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 18:48
Oct 26, 2020, 18:48
 
ForgedReality wrote on Oct 25, 2020, 19:59:
Oculus was always the inferior device anyway.

It is too bad that isn't true. Who has a better all around device than the Oculus Quest? And for $300. I'm not aware. So there's that.
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook
Oct 26, 2020, 16:30
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 16:30
Oct 26, 2020, 16:30
 
Several comments here have said the low price of the Quest 2 is due to the Facebook account requirement allowing them to sell users personal data. I think at best that's only a very small part of it. In fact even with a separate login structure, they can still collect and sell user data. I'd argue the more significant parts of the low price are...

- Economy of scale. Free advertising to 2.7 billion FB accounts and the first Quest was a hit. Should move a lot of units.
- Just like Playstation, XBox and Steam (for Index VR sales) , they get a piece of every game sold through their store.
- Want good sound? You have to buy separate headphones.
- Want to play PC games? You have to buy a cable.
- Longer playtime? Buy their battery pack.
- Want a decent head strap? (Jeebus!) Gotta buy the elite strap.


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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook
Oct 26, 2020, 16:10
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 16:10
Oct 26, 2020, 16:10
 

Well, that's severely retarded...
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook
Oct 26, 2020, 15:36
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 15:36
Oct 26, 2020, 15:36
 
El Pit wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 15:05:
FloodAnxiety wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 14:34:
Someone do an experiment for me. Delete your Steam account and let me know if you can still access your games.

You do an experiment and try to post on Steam about where you had lunch today and with whom. And if you don't post it on Steam - see if they delete your account and turn your Index OFF. I doubt it.

I think a more relevant counter-example here is the way Google doesn't really do anything to stop you from making separate accounts for Gmail, YouTube, Drive, Maps, Voice, Photos, etc., and they don't appear to care if you make multiple accounts -- in fact they have buttons specifically for switching between accounts. Nor am I aware of a YouTube channel ban taking anything else down with it. The way Facebook is going about it just looks needlessly heavy-handed on multiple fronts.
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook
Oct 26, 2020, 15:05
El Pit
 
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 15:05
Oct 26, 2020, 15:05
 El Pit
 
FloodAnxiety wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 14:34:
Someone do an experiment for me. Delete your Steam account and let me know if you can still access your games.

You do an experiment and try to post on Steam about where you had lunch today and with whom. And if you don't post it on Steam - see if they delete your account and turn your Index OFF. I doubt it.
"There is no right life in the wrong one." (Theodor W. Adorno, philosopher)
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes." (Obi-Wan Kenobi, Jedi)
Founder, president, and only member of the official "Grumpy Old Gamers Club". Please do not apply.
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook
Oct 26, 2020, 14:34
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 14:34
Oct 26, 2020, 14:34
 
Someone do an experiment for me. Delete your Steam account and let me know if you can still access your games.
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook
Oct 26, 2020, 14:25
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 14:25
Oct 26, 2020, 14:25
 
Slick wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 14:20:
Quest 2 is the loss-leader of the century IMO. I mean the CPU/GPU qualcomm chip it's using is a semi-custom VR variant of their flagship high-end chips that don't even make it into $800 smartphones. Plus the near-4k resolution screen, the lenses, 4x camera sensors. Plus 2 controllers! For $299! What magic is this!
Indeed. Makes you think about the price you ARE paying...
“Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception.” -- Carl Sagan
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook
Oct 26, 2020, 14:23
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 14:23
Oct 26, 2020, 14:23
 
Razumen wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 01:57:
Orogogus wrote on Oct 25, 2020, 22:45:
Luckey's super unpopular since he's openly conservative

LOL, you say that like it's such a terrible thing, when in fact ~36% of the US identify as conservative, ~26% as liberal.

Looking at the graph in that link, 36% is clearly the "moderate" number. Conservative is 34%. Regardless, that didn't really help Luckey or Oculus with the cancel culture shitstorm.
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Oct 26, 2020, 14:20
Slick
 
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 14:20
Oct 26, 2020, 14:20
 Slick
 
RedEye9 wrote on Oct 25, 2020, 19:11:
Not getting into VR because the Oculus is tied to Facebook is akin to not driving because the Ford Pinto went boom when rear ended.

Unfortunately it's more like the Lamborghini Hurrican catching fire than the Pinto. The Quest 2 is an unbelievably good piece of kit. 3x the resolution of my old HTC Vive, and you can play Steam VR games on it with a USB cable or just pipe it through an AC or AX router for a fully out-of-the-box wireless PC VR system.

It's just priced like the Pinto. No wonder they're milking your information, they need to pay for this somehow.

Quest 2 is the loss-leader of the century IMO. I mean the CPU/GPU qualcomm chip it's using is a semi-custom VR variant of their flagship high-end chips that don't even make it into $800 smartphones. Plus the near-4k resolution screen, the lenses, 4x camera sensors. Plus 2 controllers! For $299! What magic is this!
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook
Oct 26, 2020, 13:07
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 13:07
Oct 26, 2020, 13:07
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 11:07:
Well, it could be argued your account here is a social media account... just sayin'

There's a huge difference to be signed up on a handful of private forums vs. social media. I don't have little "Blue's icons" all over the internet spying / tracking everything I do, and I'm fairly sure that Blue isn't building a portfolio of my personal internet activity in any way shape or form.

Fricken Facebook tracks you whether you have an account or not. Thank heavens for tools like incognito mode (won't remain signed into anything after browser closes), uBlock Origin, and others.

Also, I don't really publish my life for all to see (photos, real names, etc. etc.), although this community could look at my past posts and connect a few dots (Like I'm into maintaining as much privacy as possible).
Get your games from GOG DAMMIT!
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook
Oct 26, 2020, 12:52
El Pit
 
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 12:52
Oct 26, 2020, 12:52
 El Pit
 
RedEye9 wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 11:39:
EULA of the future, if it’s not currently in all of them.
"By clicking yes you also agree to every change in future versions. This EULA is subject to change without notice."

Fion wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 11:33:
Well, anyone that trusts anything facebook is involved with should have known better.
Exactly, and that includes facebook itself.

"By clicking yes, you also agree to offer us you firstborn and your daughters at command. This EULA is subject of change without notic."

Sounds legit... to slaves. I just read that it is NOT legit in the EU and therefore the Oculus 2 cannot be sold e.g. in Germany right now. GOOD!
"There is no right life in the wrong one." (Theodor W. Adorno, philosopher)
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes." (Obi-Wan Kenobi, Jedi)
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook
Oct 26, 2020, 12:37
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 12:37
Oct 26, 2020, 12:37
 
theglaze wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 12:24:
Razumen wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 11:45:
ForgedReality wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 09:31:
Razumen wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 07:46:
Intern wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 05:54:
Razumen wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 01:57:
Orogogus wrote on Oct 25, 2020, 22:45:
Luckey's super unpopular since he's openly conservative

LOL, you say that like it's such a terrible thing, when in fact ~36% of the US identify as conservative, ~26% as liberal.
Lots identify as conservative but when asked they support more liberal policies than conservative.
Examples
58 percent of the public favors replacing Obamacare with “a federally funded healthcare program providing insurance for all Americans.
63 percent of registered voters think the minimum wage should be adjusted each year by the rate of inflation
[url=]https://prospect.org/power/americans-liberal-even-know/[/url]

Yes, like I said, being conservative isn't a monolithic belief system, it's possible for people to hold some conservative and liberal beliefs at the same time.

Peer pressure is fine. Let's all join a brainwashed cult. The more people involved, the more correct and good it is...

The entire premise for your argument is flawed.

I said none of that, perhaps you're the one brainwashed for reading things that don't exist?

It's funny to see the bickering. Like hens in the chicken coop squabbling over scraps or the warmest spot to nest... forgetting that the eggs will be stolen and they'll both be slaughtered.

The game is rigged, gentlemen.

You'd be better off finding common ground in what you see as fair and free, and working (dare I say) together to fight against the systems that oppress you.

It's quite funny you think I'm bickering. I hold neither stake in the so called divide being discussed, but things are so polarized that you and him can't help but place me on one binary side simply because I don't agree with something and am discussing it.
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook
Oct 26, 2020, 12:24
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 12:24
Oct 26, 2020, 12:24
 
Razumen wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 11:45:
ForgedReality wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 09:31:
Razumen wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 07:46:
Intern wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 05:54:
Razumen wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 01:57:
Orogogus wrote on Oct 25, 2020, 22:45:
Luckey's super unpopular since he's openly conservative

LOL, you say that like it's such a terrible thing, when in fact ~36% of the US identify as conservative, ~26% as liberal.
Lots identify as conservative but when asked they support more liberal policies than conservative.
Examples
58 percent of the public favors replacing Obamacare with “a federally funded healthcare program providing insurance for all Americans.
63 percent of registered voters think the minimum wage should be adjusted each year by the rate of inflation
[url=]https://prospect.org/power/americans-liberal-even-know/[/url]

Yes, like I said, being conservative isn't a monolithic belief system, it's possible for people to hold some conservative and liberal beliefs at the same time.

Peer pressure is fine. Let's all join a brainwashed cult. The more people involved, the more correct and good it is...

The entire premise for your argument is flawed.

I said none of that, perhaps you're the one brainwashed for reading things that don't exist?

It's funny to see the bickering. Like hens in the chicken coop squabbling over scraps or the warmest spot to nest... forgetting that the eggs will be stolen and they'll both be slaughtered.

The game is rigged, gentlemen.

You'd be better off finding common ground in what you see as fair and free, and working (dare I say) together to fight against the systems that oppress you.
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook
Oct 26, 2020, 11:45
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 11:45
Oct 26, 2020, 11:45
 
ForgedReality wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 09:31:
Razumen wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 07:46:
Intern wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 05:54:
Razumen wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 01:57:
Orogogus wrote on Oct 25, 2020, 22:45:
Luckey's super unpopular since he's openly conservative

LOL, you say that like it's such a terrible thing, when in fact ~36% of the US identify as conservative, ~26% as liberal.
Lots identify as conservative but when asked they support more liberal policies than conservative.
Examples
58 percent of the public favors replacing Obamacare with “a federally funded healthcare program providing insurance for all Americans.
63 percent of registered voters think the minimum wage should be adjusted each year by the rate of inflation
[url=]https://prospect.org/power/americans-liberal-even-know/[/url]

Yes, like I said, being conservative isn't a monolithic belief system, it's possible for people to hold some conservative and liberal beliefs at the same time.

Peer pressure is fine. Let's all join a brainwashed cult. The more people involved, the more correct and good it is...

The entire premise for your argument is flawed.

I said none of that, perhaps you're the one brainwashed for reading things that don't exist?
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook
Oct 26, 2020, 11:39
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Re: Oculus Users Should Not Delete Facebook Oct 26, 2020, 11:39
Oct 26, 2020, 11:39
 
EULA of the future, if it’s not currently in all of them.
"By clicking yes you also agree to every change in future versions. This EULA is subject to change without notice."

Fion wrote on Oct 26, 2020, 11:33:
Well, anyone that trusts anything facebook is involved with should have known better.
Exactly, and that includes facebook itself.
"I expect death to be nothingness and by removing from me all possible fears of death, I am thankful to atheism." Isaac Asimov
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