jdreyer wrote on Oct 1, 2020, 18:18:

Drayth wrote on Oct 1, 2020, 14:17:
woah

Excellent!

Bro!

Simon Says wrote on Oct 1, 2020, 17:34:
Crunch, in general, is unacceptable in most 1st world countries btw, with strangely the only exception being the super exploitative video game developer production niche.

You clearly have never had many high level jobs in the US. I have yet to work in a industry where some level of "mandatory OT" wasn't required at some point, at times for several consecutive weeks.

Primalchrome wrote on Oct 1, 2020, 17:34:
This is just a little mandatory overtime to deliver a product.....which in the US is pretty common in most markets.

That's the definition of "crunch". Crunch, in general, is unacceptable in most 1st world countries btw, with strangely the only exception being the super exploitative video game developer production niche. I guess that's one of the long list of stupidities the US does that other 1st world countries seem to tolerate as an exception for the most part for the moment.

And saying exploitation is widespread doesn't mean it is acceptable. Would you say *insert something unacceptable here* is acceptable if it were widespread? It's pure nonsense.

Drayth wrote on Oct 1, 2020, 14:17:
woah

Excellent!

Quinn wrote on Oct 1, 2020, 14:55:
Easy. Crunch is the new trendy word. It isn't always that much of a monstrous practice. (snip) ...the company is asking all their much needed and respected devs to put their backs into it for the last few months, one extra day a week fully paid.

Yeah....this isn't the 'Crunch' that has been common in dev shops for the last 30 years. It's not 7 days with 12+ hours in the chair. This is just a little mandatory overtime to deliver a product.....which in the US is pretty common in most markets.

Quinn wrote on Oct 1, 2020, 14:55:

Acleacius wrote on Oct 1, 2020, 11:35:
Clearly the advertising dollars are already spent for the Nov 19th release and it's why there's a crunch.

Easy. Crunch is the new trendy word. It isn't always that much of a monstrous practice. Or am I now one of the oldies with a bit of a backbone and a proper work ethic? Think about it. An amazing, multi-year project is meeting its final deadline (after some delays) and the company is asking all their much needed and respected devs to put their backs into it for the last few months, one extra day a week fully paid.

If that is enough to go all Cancel on a company these days, then this world is really thrown to the wolves.

It's not like they're dragging cots in so no one has to leave, a la EA. The fact that it's only six days, and not seven, makes it easier on everyone, too, I'm sure.

I preordered this back before the first delay, along with Bloodlines 2. I'll play it when it's finally released next month. I probably won't finish it for quite a while, though, as I tend to roam around and play tourist in RPGs with big worlds like this.

Acleacius wrote on Oct 1, 2020, 11:35:
Clearly the advertising dollars are already spent for the Nov 19th release and it's why there's a crunch.

Easy. Crunch is the new trendy word. It isn't always that much of a monstrous practice. Or am I now one of the oldies with a bit of a backbone and a proper work ethic? Think about it. An amazing, multi-year project is meeting its final deadline (after some delays) and the company is asking all their much needed and respected devs to put their backs into it for the last few months, one extra day a week fully paid.

If that is enough to go all Cancel on a company these days, then this world is really thrown to the wolves.

woah

Cutter wrote on Oct 1, 2020, 12:48:
I imagine it's going to be pretty buggy now. Seeing as I'll be waiting for my new rig anyway I probably won't be day one'ing this now.

IMO there stuff is good for a month wait.

I imagine it's going to be pretty buggy now. Seeing as I'll be waiting for my new rig anyway I probably won't be day one'ing this now.

Clearly the advertising dollars are already spent for the Nov 19th release and it's why there's a crunch.