Epic and Others Form Coalition for App Fairness

This announcement heralds the formation of the Coalition for App Fairness, the latest effort by Epic Games and others to combat Apple's commission for their App Store (thanks Hypothermia). Here's a bit on their mission:
Basecamp, Blix, Blockchain.com, Deezer, Epic Games, the European Publishers Council, Match Group, News Media Europe, Prepear, Protonmail, SkyDemon, Spotify, and Tile have established the Coalition for App Fairness (CAF), an independent nonprofit organization. CAF will advocate for enforcement and reforms, including legal and regulatory changes, to preserve consumer choice and a level playing field for app and game developers that rely on app stores and the most popular gatekeeper platforms.

You can learn more about the Coalition and its App Store Principles on the Coalition for App Fairness website here.

“As enforcers, regulators, and legislators around the world investigate Apple for its anti-competitive behavior, The Coalition for App Fairness will be the voice of app and game developers in the effort to protect consumer choice and create a level playing field for all,” said Horacio Gutierrez, Head of Global Affairs and Chief Legal Officer at Spotify.
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Sep 27, 2020, 12:15
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Wall Street Journal
Everybody vs. the App Store: Why Companies Are Taking Issue With Apple’s Growing Revenue Engine
Critics say Apple wields monopoly power over the gateway that connects users to mobile apps, which the tech giant disputes

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Sep 26, 2020, 23:56
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Sep 26, 2020, 23:56
 Kxmode
 
Here's one possible reason for why Epic would form a coalition before their lawsuit has even started. Tencent's 40% stake in Epic does call into question Epic's true intentions towards Apple's walled garden. It also makes sense that Tencent could create this kind of alliance under the guise of legal businesses in the United States. And if the coalition fails, Tencent can claim plausible deniability.
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Sep 26, 2020, 19:07
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Re: Epic and Others Form Coalition for App Fairness Sep 26, 2020, 19:07
Sep 26, 2020, 19:07
 
Where have I seen this before? Oh, yeah...

"Eastern Bloc nations have joined the Soviet Union in the creation of the Global Democracies Against Abuse to protest the continuing violations of civil rights by Western nations, declaring the most egregious violator to be the United States..."

Why would Tim be copying an old commie trick *cough*tencent*cough*...?
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Sep 26, 2020, 17:54
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Sep 26, 2020, 17:54
 
Can't Epic just put a 30% Apple tax and display this message to users? Or does Apple's platform's walled garden have a rule that prevents Epic from doing that?
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Sep 26, 2020, 16:49
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RedEye9 wrote on Sep 26, 2020, 12:38:
That's quite the list of app developers who are willing to take on the extortionist fees of Apples monopoly, all for the benefit of the consumer.

It's guaranteed that more developer's will be joining the coalition.

Indeed and yet I'd have more sympathy for them all if they'd done this from the start instead of a crazy lawsuit, PR campaign nonsense and breaking their contract with malice aforethought.
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That's quite the list of app developers who are willing to take on the extortionist fees of Apples monopoly, all for the benefit of the consumer.

It's guaranteed that more developer's will be joining the coalition.
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Re: Epic and Others Form Coalition for App Fairness
Sep 26, 2020, 12:27
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El Pit wrote on Sep 26, 2020, 08:31:
What I want: CAFfeine!

Tim should switch to deCAFinated.
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Sep 26, 2020, 11:53
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Yeah it's pretty rich to see Spotify here.

Looking forward to seeing Epic go down in flames on this.
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Sep 26, 2020, 11:26
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Sep 26, 2020, 11:26
 
Oh yeah. Spotify. There's a company that really sets the standard when it comes to fair compensation for artists. 16,000,000 plays? Here's your fraction of a penny. But we're happy to stick it to apple if it means we get to pocket a bit more of our passthrough. What, you think we're going to share that with you?
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What I want: CAFfeine!
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Sep 26, 2020, 06:58
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Sep 26, 2020, 06:58
 
TS must have gotten wind of this a while ago:

Apple agrees to not collect fees for Facebook's paid online events for now

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Re: Epic and Others Form Coalition for App Fairness
Sep 26, 2020, 03:56
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CAF, eh?
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Sep 26, 2020, 03:23
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Sep 26, 2020, 03:23
 
Teaming up with Tile, the company that didn’t innovate and will go out of business because of it.
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Sep 26, 2020, 00:33
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Kxmode wrote on Sep 25, 2020, 22:56:
Work4Gil wrote on Sep 25, 2020, 22:24:
I've got nothing against Tim and still remember him as a geek building toolsets and engines but a "Coalition for App Fairness" sounds like something Vince McMahon would be touting while standing in the center of a wrestling ring with a rowdy crowd booing him. LOL

Too much money makes people crazy.
Unchecked success could explain it. It could be he just surrounds himself with 'yes' men/ladies who are paid to tell him what he wants to hear.
This is clearly who he is, it's exactly how he haphazardly handled himself with Steam and his store.
A 'fight' based on lies, to justify his maniacal? ego.
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Sep 25, 2020, 23:04
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To be honest, this is how he always should have gone about it.
This would have been a way better move from the start than that ill-advised purposeful breach of contract and ready-to-go kids propaganda campaign.
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Work4Gil wrote on Sep 25, 2020, 22:24:
I've got nothing against Tim and still remember him as a geek building toolsets and engines but a "Coalition for App Fairness" sounds like something Vince McMahon would be touting while standing in the center of a wrestling ring with a rowdy crowd booing him. LOL

Too much money makes people crazy.
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I've got nothing against Tim and still remember him as a geek building toolsets and engines but a "Coalition for App Fairness" sounds like something Vince McMahon would be touting while standing in the center of a wrestling ring with a rowdy crowd booing him. LOL
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Darks wrote on Sep 25, 2020, 21:13:
HorrorScope wrote on Sep 25, 2020, 20:02:
Epic - app fairness.

Apple's anti-competitive behavior, Epic is free to make their own phone.

My exact thoughts too. Fuck Epic!!
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Sep 25, 2020, 21:37
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They haven't got a legal leg to stand on so I don't see what they think they're going to accomplish with this PR bullshit. Especially when it's they that are engaged in actual anti-consumer behavior. They don't want to pay what Apple's asking yet how much money are they wasting on all this bullshit?


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HorrorScope wrote on Sep 25, 2020, 20:02:
Epic - app fairness.

Apple's anti-competitive behavior, Epic is free to make their own phone.

My exact thoughts too. Fuck Epic!!
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