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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 22, 2020, 17:07
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 22, 2020, 17:07
Sep 22, 2020, 17:07
 
I've only bought one or two full priced $59 games for PS4 and none for PC. Everything else (and it's a lot) I've waited for discounts codes, sales, and freebies.

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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 22, 2020, 15:55
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 22, 2020, 15:55
Sep 22, 2020, 15:55
 
Game pricing has been becoming more dynamic over the past couple of decades. It used to be that games were basically all the same price. Now we have a wide range of prices of new games. It's not really that strange that AAA games might posit "Cyberpunk is a superior game to most out there, so we're going to sell it for $70 (or $80 or $100)" (for example). The price is what the market will bear. Nearly every other market works this way: cars, phones, handbags, etc.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 22, 2020, 07:34
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 22, 2020, 07:34
Sep 22, 2020, 07:34
 
RedEye9 wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 19:43:
eRe4s3r wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 19:28:
(The joke being, it's pre-order for GoG, but not FROM GoG...) yes, that makes ZERO sense... buying directly on GoG is somehow more expensive than buying indirectly on GoG.
Not a joke, games and pre-orders get resold from "cheaper" regions all the time.

It's just not something that I expect on GoG is all. Speaking of weird prices, Factorio is more expensive on GoG than on Steam... go figure.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 22, 2020, 07:09
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 22, 2020, 07:09
Sep 22, 2020, 07:09
 
Economist's come just after lawyers, politicians, and salesmen on my list of who to round up come the revolution.

The economist is just talking BS. The economy, a dollar bill, a government are not concrete fixed measurable objects. They are ideas, and ideas can be what ever you want. Arguing that an idea means one thing over another is just verbiage to channel discourse away from the ever faster rate that a very few control almost all resources on the planet, and they decide what economy, and government your going to get.

The market will decide, but guess which outcome it is slanted towards.

You want to believe there is games are sold in a level playing field competitive free market instead of a highly canted playing field where oligarchs hold the strings to most game publisher, be my guest.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 22, 2020, 00:50
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 22, 2020, 00:50
Sep 22, 2020, 00:50
 
Acleacius wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 23:42:
Same old story, each decade. Raise price, loose sales. Blame piracy! Zombie

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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 21, 2020, 23:42
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 21, 2020, 23:42
Sep 21, 2020, 23:42
 
Same old story, each decade. Raise price, loose sales. Blame piracy! Zombie
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 21, 2020, 21:49
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 21, 2020, 21:49
Sep 21, 2020, 21:49
 
Browsing through archives of GamePro magazine, it seems to me that there was no shortage of $60 games on any post-NES console, going back to around 1989-1991, up through the PSX release (1994/1995). There were cheaper games, too, but by 1991 it looks like it was the norm for higher profile games to hit that price -- or higher. Turok for the N64 launched at $80 in 1997, which seems kind of nuts. My impression is that the PSX brought prices down to $50, although Nintendo continued pricing big titles at $60 up until the GameCube (late 2001), when they dropped down to $50 and stayed there until the Wii U (2012).

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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 21, 2020, 20:34
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 21, 2020, 20:34
Sep 21, 2020, 20:34
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jdreyer wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 19:20:
Wolfen wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 18:31:
jdreyer wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 18:11:
Orogogus wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 17:22:
Wolfen wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 16:57:
In early 2000's games were 20-50USD. In 2006ish (when the xbox 360 came out) Microsoft pushed the game prices up to 60. It's been less than 20 years since game prices were hiked up.
Looking at Computer Gaming World's Dec 99 issue, the Chips & Bits ad (PDF p214-215) seems to show PSX games at $40-50, Dreamcast at $50 and N64 games at about $50-60 (including Donkey Kong 64 launching at $60). PC games were cheaper, with Diablo 2 launching at $49.
Adjusted for inflation, a $50 back in 99 would cost about $75 today.
Whoa whoa whoa whoa... nobody here was asking for your logical input buddy.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 21, 2020, 19:57
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 21, 2020, 19:57
Sep 21, 2020, 19:57
 
Analyst will always go for more, no matter to me, gamepass or the like or deep deep sale is who I am, because $60 is too much.

As for devs, tool efficiency has to counter other costs. And if it cost 10's of millions, games make 100's of millions and sometimes billions.

And the other white elephant that is in the room that wasn't in 2000 is DLC and Microtrans. Some charge near full game cost for a single armor set, many charge 1/6'th of a AAA game for one, takes a minuscule fraction to make vs a whole game.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 21, 2020, 19:43
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 21, 2020, 19:43
Sep 21, 2020, 19:43
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 19:28:
(The joke being, it's pre-order for GoG, but not FROM GoG...) yes, that makes ZERO sense... buying directly on GoG is somehow more expensive than buying indirectly on GoG.
Not a joke, games and pre-orders get resold from "cheaper" regions all the time.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 21, 2020, 19:28
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 21, 2020, 19:28
Sep 21, 2020, 19:28
 
jdreyer wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 15:56:
eRe4s3r wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 12:37:
I am not buying any game that is 60€ (70$)....

Not even Cyberpunk?

Funny you should ask, because no, I don't pre-order games flat out anymore. ^^ Learned my lessons. Ok that's a lie, one game I would pre-order. Total War: Warhammer 3, but only that one.

But you know what is even funnier? That you think Cyberpunk costs 60€ ... I found it with 1 click for 44,99 € as a pre-order ^^ And that is a price I would pay. (The joke being, it's pre-order for GoG, but not FROM GoG...) yes, that makes ZERO sense... buying directly on GoG is somehow more expensive than buying indirectly on GoG.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 21, 2020, 19:20
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 21, 2020, 19:20
Sep 21, 2020, 19:20
 
Wolfen wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 18:31:
jdreyer wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 18:11:
Orogogus wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 17:22:
Wolfen wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 16:57:
In early 2000's games were 20-50USD. In 2006ish (when the xbox 360 came out) Microsoft pushed the game prices up to 60. It's been less than 20 years since game prices were hiked up.
Looking at Computer Gaming World's Dec 99 issue, the Chips & Bits ad (PDF p214-215) seems to show PSX games at $40-50, Dreamcast at $50 and N64 games at about $50-60 (including Donkey Kong 64 launching at $60). PC games were cheaper, with Diablo 2 launching at $49.
Adjusted for inflation, a $50 back in 99 would cost about $75 today.
Whoa whoa whoa whoa... nobody here was asking for your logical input buddy.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 21, 2020, 19:13
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 21, 2020, 19:13
Sep 21, 2020, 19:13
 
ldonyo wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 11:06:
... If the industry moves to $70 as the new normal, I'll just wait until the 'everything' editions come out AND go on sale.

I pretty much already do that with 95% of the current $60 games that come out.

There's very few games that I would consider 'Pay Full Price early after release' purchases anymore.
The only one coming up for me may be Cyberpunk. Everything else is 'wait until the 'everything' editions come out AND go on sale'.

It's not because I'm cheap. It's because a majority of modern games are too short and initially very buggy. By the time the the 'everything' editions come out, they are good value and usually patched well.
Of course... I'm talking PC... not Consoles. I buy very few console games... and usually those are for guests.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 21, 2020, 18:31
Wolfen
 
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 21, 2020, 18:31
Sep 21, 2020, 18:31
 Wolfen
 
jdreyer wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 18:11:
Orogogus wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 17:22:
Wolfen wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 16:57:
In early 2000's games were 20-50USD. In 2006ish (when the xbox 360 came out) Microsoft pushed the game prices up to 60. It's been less than 20 years since game prices were hiked up.
Looking at Computer Gaming World's Dec 99 issue, the Chips & Bits ad (PDF p214-215) seems to show PSX games at $40-50, Dreamcast at $50 and N64 games at about $50-60 (including Donkey Kong 64 launching at $60). PC games were cheaper, with Diablo 2 launching at $49.
Adjusted for inflation, a $50 back in 99 would cost about $75 today.
Whoa whoa whoa whoa... nobody here was asking for your logical input buddy.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 21, 2020, 18:11
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 21, 2020, 18:11
Sep 21, 2020, 18:11
 
Orogogus wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 17:22:
Wolfen wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 16:57:
In early 2000's games were 20-50USD. In 2006ish (when the xbox 360 came out) Microsoft pushed the game prices up to 60. It's been less than 20 years since game prices were hiked up.
Looking at Computer Gaming World's Dec 99 issue, the Chips & Bits ad (PDF p214-215) seems to show PSX games at $40-50, Dreamcast at $50 and N64 games at about $50-60 (including Donkey Kong 64 launching at $60). PC games were cheaper, with Diablo 2 launching at $49.
Adjusted for inflation, a $50 back in 99 would cost about $75 today.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 21, 2020, 17:22
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 21, 2020, 17:22
Sep 21, 2020, 17:22
 
Wolfen wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 16:57:
In early 2000's games were 20-50USD. In 2006ish (when the xbox 360 came out) Microsoft pushed the game prices up to 60. It's been less than 20 years since game prices were hiked up.
Looking at Computer Gaming World's Dec 99 issue, the Chips & Bits ad (PDF p214-215) seems to show PSX games at $40-50, Dreamcast at $50 and N64 games at about $50-60 (including Donkey Kong 64 launching at $60). PC games were cheaper, with Diablo 2 launching at $49.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 21, 2020, 17:00
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 21, 2020, 17:00
Sep 21, 2020, 17:00
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jdreyer wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 15:56:
eRe4s3r wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 12:37:
I am not buying any game that is 60€ (70$)....

Not even Cyberpunk?

The number of titles most people will day one and pay full price each year for are easily counted on one hand. That's why this article is completely asinine.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 21, 2020, 16:59
Wolfen
 
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 21, 2020, 16:59
Sep 21, 2020, 16:59
 Wolfen
 
jdreyer wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 15:56:
eRe4s3r wrote on Sep 21, 2020, 12:37:
I am not buying any game that is 60€ (70$)....

Not even Cyberpunk?
Hah, well if they pre-order it they'll get it for 60 now.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 21, 2020, 16:57
Wolfen
 
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 21, 2020, 16:57
Sep 21, 2020, 16:57
 Wolfen
 
In early 2000's games were 20-50USD. In 2006ish (when the xbox 360 came out) Microsoft pushed the game prices up to 60. It's been less than 20 years since game prices were hiked up.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 21, 2020, 16:55
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 21, 2020, 16:55
Sep 21, 2020, 16:55
 
Im going retro for a year I think. Between the game pricing, hardware availability and some RL shite I have to do all in all I think I might give the next year of releases a while to come down in price.

Should also give CDPR a chance to actually make cyberpunk playable. Tried all 3 witchers day one and they needed a lot more enhancement to git gud.
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