Linking an article which itself does not cite any source for its data (and goes on to make speculative extrapolations without bothering to define any context for them) is not exactly solid proof of what you're saying. Which is that 50% of PC gamers have an SSD by now, correct? How does any of this support that claim?

Average contract prices for 512GB and 1TB SSDs have a chance to plunge below $0.1 per GB by the end of this year, hitting an all-time low.

This change will cause 512GB SSDs to replace their 128GB counterparts and become market mainstream, second only to 256GB SSDs.

PCIe SSDs may achieve 50% market penetration, since PCIe SSDs and SATA SSDS are nearly identical in price.

SSD adoption among notebooks had already come above the 50% threshold in 2018.

Contract prices for mainstream 128/256/512GB SSDs have fallen a long way by over 50% since peaking in 2017, and prices for 512GB and 1TB SSDs may fall below $0.1 per GB by year-end.

This will stimulate demand from those seeking to replace their 500GB and 1TB HDDs. SSD adoption rate is expected to land between 60 and 65% in 2019.

RedEye9 wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 14:10:

GothicWizard wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 13:40:
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The cycle is new tech is released, it gets to 50+% saturation in the market, gaming industry plans for it to be a requirement or strongly suggested on the next cycle of games. Rinse and repeat.

What the what.
Where is this magical number listed and when did ssd’s gain that share, include the sources of course for each.

https://www.electronicsweekly.com/uncategorised/ssds-getting-cheaper-2019-05/

You were saying?

Just because you are oblivious to certain data or facts does not make it untrue. It simply means you should talk less and listen more.

Dev wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 14:20:
Don't forget to check out the website mentioned in the trailers!
It's awesome.
I love the ads there, especially the one about only 99 bucks for a gallon of real water
https://www.nightcity.love

I've been to an ALL Foods restaurant
It really is a Comprehensive Feeding Service for the whole family

Dev wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 14:16:

Acleacius wrote on Sep 18, 2020, 23:11:
Ahh, so the fact they say win 7 and dx 12 minium means they will probably be the first to use the new ms win 7 dx 12 kit.
I also bet they will have seperate dx 11 and dx 12 exe(s) that way Ray Tracing and all the other super graphics atm can be used.

Nope, DX12 only, they've said this before and it's there in the minimum specs.
This is why win 8 and vista aren't supported, they are dx11 only.
And they won't be the first to use dx12 on win7, that was blizzard and WoW and that one game is probably the only reason MS devoted the manpower to port that there without bothering to port it to win 8 and vista.

Damn Blizzard, indirectly causing my Windows 8.1 to not get DX12 !

Luckily my desktop is upgraded to Win10 finally, after somebody's freebie upgrade suggestion a few months back. GG unofficial official upgrade.

Don't forget to check out the website mentioned in the trailers!
It's awesome.
I love the ads there, especially the one about only 99 bucks for a gallon of real water
https://www.nightcity.love

Acleacius wrote on Sep 18, 2020, 23:11:
Ahh, so the fact they say win 7 and dx 12 minium means they will probably be the first to use the new ms win 7 dx 12 kit.
I also bet they will have seperate dx 11 and dx 12 exe(s) that way Ray Tracing and all the other super graphics atm can be used.

Nope, DX12 only, they've said this before and it's there in the minimum specs.
This is why win 8 and vista aren't supported, they are dx11 only.
And they won't be the first to use dx12 on win7, that was blizzard and WoW and that one game is probably the only reason MS devoted the manpower to port that there without bothering to port it to win 8 and vista.

GothicWizard wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 13:40:
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The cycle is new tech is released, it gets to 50+% saturation in the market, gaming industry plans for it to be a requirement or strongly suggested on the next cycle of games. Rinse and repeat.

What the what.
Where is this magical number listed and when did ssd’s gain that share, include the sources of course for each.

RedEye9 wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 12:10:

GothicWizard wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 11:49:

RedEye9 wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 03:37:
SSD's are recommended for both specs. Interesting.

How so? With NO loading screens it is going to be doing a LOT of real time disk access. Makes perfect and logical sense.

I’m not taking issue w/it and apparently we have the next gen consoles to thank for this requirement. I just found it interesting that this is the first time I remember seeing ssd’s as recommended and required in system specs. I’m all for it. (I’m sure there are other games released in the last year or two that recommended ssd’s and I didn’t notice that requirement)***
In the near future expect to see storage requirements state the minimum read/write speeds as well.
Sata ssd speeds and NVMe PCIe M.2 speeds are worlds apart.

*** edit
The upcoming World of Warcraft: Shadowlands expansion also recommends a solid state disc as does The Medium.

I am not saying you are taking issue with it, I am saying this shouldn't be surprising, unexpected or any more "interesting" then you need a working PC to play this. If you didn't see this coming 18 months ago then you wern't paying attention.

The cycle is new tech is released, it gets to 50+% saturation in the market, gaming industry plans for it to be a requirement or strongly suggested on the next cycle of games. Rinse and repeat.

The side note to this is when a new tech developer pays to expedite adoption by getting game companies to include their new tech (ray tracing) to get people to buy it but that generally is a video card thing, most all other cases follows the cycle above.

Acleacius wrote on Sep 18, 2020, 23:20:
First trailer not spoilerish, Cutter. General Theme, I'm thinking the restart they did after that long gameplay trailer 6 months/year (?) ago, looks like they went with
real world parallel theme of rich verses accelerated planetary environmental destruction. About to watch trailer 2, woo hoo!

Trailer 2, is the introduction to 5 or 6 gangs, you will be dealing with and their credos.

Ahh, thank you.

El Pit wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 03:17:
Software raytracing on a GTX 1060? Yes, at about 5 fps at 720p.

No, really. It is impossible to pull off real ray-tracing on this card at any acceptable framerate even at VERY low resolutions.

Haha I remember how the specs on the box of the original Unreal were a complete lie. The software renderer was amazing for its ability to do colored lighting, but it ran at 5 fps when nothing was happening, and dropped to 1 fps if you or an enemy fired a weapon. Fun days

I'm setting up a new rig before this, I already have most the parts. i5-9600k, EVGA 2060 Super Black, 32gb of G.Skill Ripjaw V & 1tb MVMe Samsung 970 EVO.

It'll be substantially better than recommended specs for 1080p, so hopefully I'll be able to turn on high specs with RTX on and DLSS 2.0 and get decent frames. I cant wait.

GothicWizard wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 11:49:

RedEye9 wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 03:37:
SSD's are recommended for both specs. Interesting.

How so? With NO loading screens it is going to be doing a LOT of real time disk access. Makes perfect and logical sense.

I’m not taking issue w/it and apparently we have the next gen consoles to thank for this requirement. I just found it interesting that this is the first time I remember seeing ssd’s as recommended and required in system specs. I’m all for it. (I’m sure there are other games released in the last year or two that recommended ssd’s and I didn’t notice that requirement)***
In the near future expect to see storage requirements state the minimum read/write speeds as well.
Sata ssd speeds and NVMe PCIe M.2 speeds are worlds apart.

*** edit
The upcoming World of Warcraft: Shadowlands expansion also recommends a solid state disc as does The Medium.

This comment was edited on Sep 19, 2020, 12:33.

Hmm... looks like my old rig can stay on windows 7 a while longer. I didn't want to change OS's until I built a new rig anyway... so that's good.

That's assuming I buy Cyberpunk before I build a new rig... which is likely since I'm targeting spring of next year when Zen 3 and Nvidia 30 series should be widely available (or possibly Big Navi and whatever Intel's best is at the time).

RedEye9 wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 03:37:
SSD's are recommended for both specs. Interesting.

How so? With NO loading screens it is going to be doing a LOT of real time disk access. Makes perfect and logical sense.

MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 04:43:
Hrm...those specs are almost suspiciously low, my current 'ancient' desktop can run this with no issues, apparently.

New desktop build... pushed back another year at least.

Look like 1080P specs...kind of surprising--but devs always aim for the largest markets. Actually, the game so far doesn't do much for me...I wouldn't live in Night City if they paid me...but CDPR wants me to pay them...;)

MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 04:43:
Hrm...those specs are almost suspiciously low, my current 'ancient' desktop can run this with no issues, apparently.

New desktop build... pushed back another year at least.

Great My old system Ryzen 5 3600 with 16 Gigs DDr 4 3200 ,500gb M.2 with 2 terabyte sata hd 7200 rpm with a 650 power supply 80+ bronze rating and OLd School Rtx 2060 Super with windows 10 64 bit and a 24 inch asus 144mhz 1080p gaming monitor should do ok for 1080p gaming ! I dont have the $$$$$ for a Big gaming system for a New Rtx 3090 video card or a Ryzen 9 or 7 3950 or Intel $1k cpu ???? Or a 4K gaming monitor at $$$$$$ ?? DOes it need that ??? I cant wait till all the Xbox kids come crying they didnt get the New Xbox or Playstation 5 for Xmas ! If i got one i would wait till 4 days till Xmas then go tell the salesman at my local Gamestop I have one for sell and dump it for $1k-2k before Xmas and Never put it up on Ebay or Craigslist or FB Market place ! Geez RTX 3080 on ebay sells for $2k atm

MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 04:43:
Hrm...those specs are almost suspiciously low, my current 'ancient' desktop can run this with no issues, apparently.

New desktop build... pushed back another year at least.

Same here... I have a 2011 Intel 2600k and a 2016 Nvidia 1060. Kind of amazing that it can still run new games well, and that they look as good as they do.

Hrm...those specs are almost suspiciously low, my current 'ancient' desktop can run this with no issues, apparently.

New desktop build... pushed back another year at least.

SSD's are recommended for both specs. Interesting.

Ravenus wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 00:04:
Wow, this is cool. But weren't they showing off ray-tracing in their trailers? Would that be feasible (even at 1080p) on a GTX 1060?

Software raytracing on a GTX 1060? Yes, at about 5 fps at 720p.

No, really. It is impossible to pull off real ray-tracing on this card at any acceptable framerate even at VERY low resolutions.