Into the Black

Obituary: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died.
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Sep 21, 2020, 02:22
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Dems have raised $100M since RBG passed away. Wow!
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NPR cited response from Jewish women gathered at Wash., D.C., synagogue, "Rest in Power"
How true
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RedEye9 wrote on Sep 18, 2020, 20:51:
Mitch McConnell blocked President Barack Obama's Supreme Court pick, Merrick Garland, for 293 days.

If that worthless piece of excrement approves a nominee before the election there will be hell to pay.
I thought you had a better grip on reality than that. First, he has said he will do it. Second, it is highly likely he'll succeed. There will be no hell to pay, unless it is in an afterlife.
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RIP RBG

Cutter wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 13:30:
You're forgoing the possibility that Trump just might win. Worse still, the GOP may actually get the 2/3rd control of Congress they want and need. If that happens America is fucked and the SCOTUS is the least of your worries.

I know I tend to drift to worst case scenarios but given how 2020's been going, along with his term in general, I have no doubt any more that Trump will win reelection. I also have no doubt this is the visible start of America's waning power and influence. Class divisions will worsen. Racial tensions will flare. It may not lead to civil war, but America will slowly die regardless.

Mr. Tact wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 09:28:
I'd be shocked if McConnell isn't able to get a vote done before 20 Jan 2021. I'd be mildly surprised if he isn't able to get a vote done prior to the election. The only hope is four GOP senators display a backbone -- I wouldn't be money on it.

We're going to have a new judge soon--you can count on that. The Republicans don't have any sense of consistency or honor. McConnell already boasts about Kavanaugh, he'll push this as hard as he can.

Burrito of Peace wrote on Sep 18, 2020, 22:36:
I've never been happier to be emigrating.

Where are you headed? I've started immigration papers too. Seriously thinking about leaving the country.

RedEye9 wrote on Sep 18, 2020, 20:51:
Mitch McConnell blocked President Barack Obama's Supreme Court pick, Merrick Garland, for 293 days.
If that worthless piece of excrement approves a nominee before the election there will be hell to pay.

McConnell cares not. He knows the value of judgeships and will do whatever he can.

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Given that CA hasn't had an earthquake in a while, I wouldn't put it past 2020 to whack that state hard.

Ask and ye shall receive...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/19/us/southern-california-earthquake/index.html


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Cutter wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 13:30:
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You're forgoing the possibility that Trump just might win. Worse still, the GOP may actually get the 2/3rd control of Congress they want and need.

The former is possible but unlikely; it would require a dramatic change in the state of the race, and/or full scale shenigans around voter disenfranchisement. On the current trajectory, Trump has no realistic shot of winning the popular vote, and his path through the electoral college is unlikely, having largely fallen out of contention in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, (the states that won him the presidency in 2016) and having to defend ordinarily solidly red sunbelt states like Georgia, Texas and Arizona.

The latter (assuming you're referring to the Senate) is not currently possible. Of the 33 senate seat up this cycle, only two of them are possible pick ups for the Republicans. To get to 60 seats would require winning in deep blue states like Massachusetts, New Jersey and Rhode Island. Meanwhile they're defending 13 or so contestable seats, several of which they appear to be on track to lose. The best realistic scenario for Republicans this cycle is they hold the Senate with a 51 or 52 seat majority, but more likely the Democrats retake the majority with a similar margin.
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Sep 19, 2020, 14:01
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Cutter wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 13:30:
You're forgoing the possibility that Trump just might win. Worse still, the GOP may actually get the 2/3rd control of Congress they want and need. If that happens America is fucked and the SCOTUS is the least of your worries.
You mean 60 seats in the Senate? Highly unlikely. However as much as I hate saying it, even in a best case scenario in the November election it will take decades to undo the damage done by Trump and his administration. The federal court system is now packed with far right leaning "judges" (in quotes because some of them don't even really qualify for that distinction) with lifetime appointments.
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Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 13:54:
WaltC wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 10:53:
The principles espoused in the Constitution are based on human nature, which hasn't changed a bit in the last 10,000 years...;)

There we have it, folks: WaltC is a young Earth creationist. Either that or he is woefully misinformed on the estimated age of the species homo sapiens (150k to 200k years old).
here’s proof
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WaltC wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 10:53:
The principles espoused in the Constitution are based on human nature, which hasn't changed a bit in the last 10,000 years...;)

There we have it, folks: WaltC is a young Earth creationist. Either that or he is woefully misinformed on the estimated age of the species homo sapiens (150k to 200k years old).
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The Flying Penguin wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 09:23:
On top of that, Trump is always a wild card. He may not like having all the media attention focused away from him and on the court pick. He may be cocky enough to tell McConnell that he's confident he's going to win the election and to put off the court pick.

You're forgoing the possibility that Trump just might win. Worse still, the GOP may actually get the 2/3rd control of Congress they want and need. If that happens America is fucked and the SCOTUS is the least of your worries.
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opie wrote on Sep 18, 2020, 23:01:
Bill Borre wrote on Sep 18, 2020, 20:34:
I bet Trump is asking his advisors just how fast he can nominate a supreme court justice.

both Biden and Trump released updated judge list in the last 2 weeks or so.
President Biden has not released a list.
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Sep 19, 2020, 11:18
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WaltC wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 10:59:
Beamer wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 10:44:
WaltC wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 10:41:
Finally...the poor woman should have resigned a couple of years ago--guess she has no family to have shared her last days with. The good thing I will remember about Ginsberg is that although she did vote contrary to statutes and the constitution many times in her career, she did vote with the President more than once in 2020 on some fairly important, bedrock rulings.

Give several examples of her doing this, and demonstrate that it wasn't actually just doing her job.

I'm sorry...you didn't catch the immigration votes of the last few months? Ginsberg voted with the administration. The left wing lost several key votes this year in the SCOTUS, and more than once Ginsberg voted with the President. I realize that in liberal circles the facts are often ignored when they don't suit the agenda, but try and do your own research. Or, are you talking about her votes with the other two liberal justices whose opinions are painfully rationalized when they vote against perfectly clear legal statutes? I really don't understand your question at all.

I mean her voting against the Constitution.
And statutes.

I'm pretty convinced you don't know the purpose of the Supreme Court. Also, this is the only time in the history of this place you never responded to anything. Usually, you feel like a bit like an AI run Twitter feed.
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Beamer wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 10:44:
WaltC wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 10:41:
Finally...the poor woman should have resigned a couple of years ago--guess she has no family to have shared her last days with. The good thing I will remember about Ginsberg is that although she did vote contrary to statutes and the constitution many times in her career, she did vote with the President more than once in 2020 on some fairly important, bedrock rulings.

Give several examples of her doing this, and demonstrate that it wasn't actually just doing her job.

I'm sorry...you didn't catch the immigration votes of the last few months? Ginsberg voted with the administration. The left wing lost several key votes this year in the SCOTUS, and more than once Ginsberg voted with the President. I realize that in liberal circles the facts are often ignored when they don't suit the agenda, but try and do your own research. Or, are you talking about her votes with the other two liberal justices whose opinions are painfully rationalized when they vote against perfectly clear legal statutes? I really don't understand your question at all.
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PHJF wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 10:07:

And also 250 years old. Did I miss the part of history wherein men became infallible and whatever whims born of the times were to be echoed into eternity?

The principles espoused in the Constitution are based on human nature, which hasn't changed a bit in the last 10,000 years...;) The world is still full of dictators who enslave their populations, exactly like it was 250 years ago. Anyone who thinks freedom of speech and religion is "old hat" needs a mental exam, imo...;) Both are extremely rare in the world today, and AFAIK, the US is the only nation on the planet to codify freedom of speech into its laws. Even in the EU today, if you say something a government official doesn't like you can be jailed for it! Check out Germany, for instance. Also happens in the UK. Because they don't have freedom of speech and religion enshrined in their laws at all. Only in the US is someone free to speak his mind politically, criticizing both politicians and the government, without fear of government reprisal. No country is perfect, but what we have is obviously the best of the best in 2020, no question. I mean, I *like* my freedoms, don't know about you...
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WaltC wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 10:41:
Finally...the poor woman should have resigned a couple of years ago--guess she has no family to have shared her last days with. The good thing I will remember about Ginsberg is that although she did vote contrary to statutes and the constitution many times in her career, she did vote with the President more than once in 2020 on some fairly important, bedrock rulings.

Give several examples of her doing this, and demonstrate that it wasn't actually just doing her job.
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Sep 19, 2020, 10:41
 
Finally...the poor woman should have resigned a couple of years ago--guess she has no family to have shared her last days with. The good thing I will remember about Ginsberg is that although she did vote contrary to statutes and the constitution many times in her career, she did vote with the President more than once in 2020 on some fairly important, bedrock rulings.
It is well known universally that I do not make mistakes--so, if you should happen across an error in that which I have written, please be assured that *I* did not write it!...:)
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Beamer wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 09:37:
zcaa0g wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 08:05:
Ginsburg believed in a "living" U.S. Constitution so that directly goes against her vow to uphold the U.S. Constitution. Now she can be replaced by a Constitutional judge and the SCOTUS will be far off better for it.

"Well, bye."

So did the forefather that wrote the Constitution. That was it's whole point.

Take a basic ConLaw class. Even conservatives that claim to hate this notion do it, as their own interpretations change just as often.

Or, instead if taking a course, just read the damn constitution. It's intentionally vague as shit.

And also 250 years old. Did I miss the part of history wherein men became infallible and whatever whims born of the times were to be echoed into eternity?
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zcaa0g wrote on Sep 19, 2020, 08:05:
Ginsburg believed in a "living" U.S. Constitution so that directly goes against her vow to uphold the U.S. Constitution. Now she can be replaced by a Constitutional judge and the SCOTUS will be far off better for it.

"Well, bye."

So did the forefather that wrote the Constitution. That was it's whole point.

Take a basic ConLaw class. Even conservatives that claim to hate this notion do it, as their own interpretations change just as often.

Or, instead if taking a course, just read the damn constitution. It's intentionally vague as shit.
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I'd be shocked if McConnell isn't able to get a vote done before 20 Jan 2021. I'd be mildly surprised if he isn't able to get a vote done prior to the election. The only hope is four GOP senators display a backbone -- I wouldn't be money on it.
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