HorrorScope wrote on Sep 18, 2020, 13:18:
I no yesterday I read a lot of "NV lied the 3080 isn't x faster than a 2080TI", well in some cases it is.
Most of that talk is made up anyway. At the live reveal of the RTX 30xx series, Huang never made a comparison between the 2080Ti and the 3080. He only said that the RTX 3080 would be (up to) twice as fast as the RTX 2080 (non-Ti and non-S) which turned out to be true in certain scenarios. On average it is "only" +70% faster but there are RT/DLSS scenarios where the RTX 3080 really outshines the RTX 2080.
When it comes to the RTX 2080Ti, Huang said that the RTX 3070 would be faster. At the same time this slide
was shown in the stream that says "faster than 2080Ti" but it actually looks more like the RTX 3070 and 2080Ti are on equal footing so the RTX 3070 will probably be marginally faster than the 2080Ti in select scenarios. It will also be quite a bit slower in others, namely whenever it runs out of VRAM (the 3GB less is going to hurt in certain situations).
On a whole I do not know why this is surprising to anyone. Hardware makers always advertise best case scenarios in these reveals just like car makers advertise best case fuel consumption or like game developers don't advertise their buggy messes. It's called marketing. We will find out mid October where the RTX 3070 settles in. I wouldn't doubt nVidia's claims. The RTX 3080 is about +30% faster than the RTX 2080Ti so the RTX 3070 would fit right in on the RTX 2080Ti level, give or take 5%.
There is also a historical case to be made here. The GTX 970 was about as fast as the GTX 780Ti (remember there was no GTX 8xx series) and the GTX 1070 was on par with the GTX 980Ti. The (x)x70 part has an established track record of replacing the Ti of a previous generation. If the RTX 3070 reaches RTX 2080Ti performance just as nVidia said it should not really surprise anyone.