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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Sep 6, 2020, 17:37
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"Wait for AMD to make its Big Navi move before you buy the Nvidia RTX 3080." I mean look waiting for Ryzen 4000 release before building a new rig is one thing, but reading this is honestly comical based on how awesome RTX 30 series looks and AMD's past GPU history.
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Sep 5, 2020, 21:54
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RogueSix wrote on Sep 5, 2020, 21:32:
The review NDA for the FE is supposed to be lifted on the 14th which is three days ahead of the launch date on the 17th. People will have more than a fair chance to judge performance before dropping an order.

Good to know.
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Sep 5, 2020, 21:53
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Sep 5, 2020, 21:53
 
Ozmodan wrote on Sep 5, 2020, 17:32:
Kind of funny everyone jumping on the Nvidia bandwagon and taking Nvidia's word on the performance.

If they are pulling a fast one, returns are possible as well.
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Sep 5, 2020, 21:43
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Sep 5, 2020, 21:43
Sep 5, 2020, 21:43
 
Why doesn't AMD tell us about Big Nave then before 3080's release? I'm all ears.
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Sep 5, 2020, 21:32
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Sep 5, 2020, 21:32
Sep 5, 2020, 21:32
 
Ozmodan wrote on Sep 5, 2020, 17:32:
Kind of funny everyone jumping on the Nvidia bandwagon and taking Nvidia's word on the performance.

The review NDA for the FE is supposed to be lifted on the 14th which is three days ahead of the launch date on the 17th. People will have more than a fair chance to judge performance before dropping an order. It is to be expected that nVidia's +100% claim regarding the RTX 2080 vs. the RTX 3080 was best case scenarios. Even if it is "only" 70% to 80% on average it will be a very impressive card at that $699 price tag.

People who think they can go to their favorite website or store to get one of these cards will be very disappointed at least for the remainder of this year

That claim is based on unsubstantiated rumors. We will have to wait and see about availability. It is definitely possible that nVidia pulled the trigger a little prematurely to one up not just AMD but also next gen consoles. We're just going to have to wait and see about that.

Regarding the article at hand, I'm not really sure what there is to wait for. The only card that might potentially see a price drop is the RTX 3090 if AMD by some miracle can shoot that high. The RTX 3070 and RTX 3080 are already priced very competitively. The pricing is outright aggressive. I'm sure that nVidia got a really good deal from Samsung for signing some serious volume with them in terms of wafers/month. In that regard, nVidia probably has a huge edge over AMD who need to pay whatever TSMC demands. So, while nVidia is on a significantly inferior node compared to AMD, they certainly have the edge in terms of margins. It is highly likely that AMD is going to struggle to deliver a RTX 3080 "killer" with 16GB VRAM at $699. Their margins would be crumbling big time which would run opposite to AMD's overall goal of margin expansion.

Anyway, the point is: It is very unlikely that prices of the RTX 3080 or 3070 will move much for the simple reason that AMD is going to have a hard time undercutting the already aggressive pricing of nVidia. This is why people intending to buy nVidia anyway need not wait unless they want to wait until well into 2021 when we will likely see a RTX 3080Ti and a RTX 3080 with 20GB VRAM and a RTX 3070 with 16GB VRAM at some point.
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Sep 5, 2020, 20:16
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Sep 5, 2020, 20:16
 
Ozmodan wrote on Sep 5, 2020, 17:32:
Kind of funny everyone jumping on the Nvidia bandwagon and taking Nvidia's word on the performance. People who think they can go to their favorite website or store to get one of these cards will be very disappointed at least for the remainder of this year as the best place to buy one of these cards will probably be Ebay at a much higher price. It will be interesting to see if AMD's cards are more available and close to Nvidia's performance claims.

Sorry, but AMD is the one that is famous for fudging numbers and cherry-picking results which do not bear fruit in the real world. AMD cannot compete with nVidia when it comes to the high end. That have NEVER competed in the graphics sector. I miss ATI.
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Sep 5, 2020, 18:49
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Sep 5, 2020, 18:49
 
Ozmodan wrote on Sep 5, 2020, 17:32:
Kind of funny everyone jumping on the Nvidia bandwagon and taking Nvidia's word on the performance. People who think they can go to their favorite website or store to get one of these cards will be very disappointed at least for the remainder of this year as the best place to buy one of these cards will probably be Ebay at a much higher price. It will be interesting to see if AMD's cards are more available and close to Nvidia's performance claims.

Kitguru has an early impression video which has actual performance charts for the RTX 3080 and even though it's in a pretty limited environment the card was about 80% faster than an RTX 2080 so not quite the broad 100% figure we've been thrown but that's still impressive especially for the price which is the key component.

I'm really hoping it's not a paper launch but deep down I am preparing for the worst. I have the morning off on the 17th and the 24th so I'll be up early to try my best.

Meanwhile, depending on who you listen to, Big Navi is expected to be between 15% and 50% faster than a 2080 Ti.
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Sep 5, 2020, 17:32
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits Sep 5, 2020, 17:32
Sep 5, 2020, 17:32
 
Kind of funny everyone jumping on the Nvidia bandwagon and taking Nvidia's word on the performance. People who think they can go to their favorite website or store to get one of these cards will be very disappointed at least for the remainder of this year as the best place to buy one of these cards will probably be Ebay at a much higher price. It will be interesting to see if AMD's cards are more available and close to Nvidia's performance claims.
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Wait for AMD to make its Big Navi move before you buy the Nvidia RTX 3080
Sep 5, 2020, 17:21
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Wait for AMD to make its Big Navi move before you buy the Nvidia RTX 3080 Sep 5, 2020, 17:21
Sep 5, 2020, 17:21
 
It's not like your graphics card is going to explode or anything before the drivers mature
That might actually happen, like it figuratively happened with the early 2080(Ti) models. They just died because they had manufacturing flaws.
I always wait at least 2 months after a new generation, before buying it. But the early adopters can go right ahead.
I have given up on waiting for BIS to come back to their senses and do a real ArmA 2 successor.
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Re: Saturday Tech Bits
Sep 5, 2020, 14:23
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Sep 5, 2020, 14:23
 
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