NVIDIA 30 Series GPUs and New Reflex Drivers This Month

NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang dusted off his leather motorcycle jacket today and announced first details about NVIDIA's new GeForce RTX 30 Series GPUs, which will go on sale on September 17th. The promise here is to provide up to double the performance of the current generation at almost double the power efficiency. They unveil the USD$699 RTX 3080 as their new flagship, saying this is built for 4K gaming. These have 28 billion transistors built on a custom 8N manufacturing process, and use new GDDR6X memory, "the fastest graphics memory ever made." There's also a $499 RTX 3070 that's faster than the RTX 2080 Ti at less than half the price. Finally there's the giant $1200 RTX 3090, which Huang calls a "BFGPU." This has 24GB of GDDR6X memory running at 19.5Gbps and is capable of 8K gaming at 60fps. They round out the announcements with details that this month will see the release of a new feature of their Game Ready Drivers called Reflex, which will remove some of the latency from the graphics pipeline. Here's word on that:
For the 75 percent of GeForce gamers who play esports, Huang announced the release of this month of NVIDIA Reflex with our Game Ready Driver.

In Valorant, a fast-paced action game, for example, Huang showed a scenario where an opponent, traveling at 1,500 pixels per second, is only visible for 180 milliseconds.

But a typical gamer has a reaction time of 150 ms — from photon to action. “You can only hit the opponent if your PC adds less than 30 ms,” Huang explained.

Yet right now, most gamers have latencies greater than 30 ms — many up to 100 ms, Huang noted.

NVIDIA Reflex optimizes the rendering pipeline across CPU and GPU to reduce latency by up to 50 ms, he said.

“Over 100 million GeForce gamers will instantly become more competitive,” Huang said.
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Slick wrote on Sep 1, 2020, 20:43:
Also, I am so not down with using DLSS as a metric. Might as well use Ray Tracing as a "standard measurement" lol. ... Let the street fight happen where it needs to be, traditional rasterized performance

Why? If (as in Death Stranding) DLSS is a faster and better-looking way of generating 4K of pixels than native rendering, why should raster performance be deemed the only metric of value?

Nor is ray tracing just about reflections. It enables much better GI/AO, which has huge knock-on effects in terms of what can be done with dynamic environments and lighting, and the dev cost of creating and lighting worlds. In terms of the kinds of games that you would buy a card like this for, DLSS and ray-tracing are high-value additions; they provide functionality orthogonal to that of rasterisation - and functionality that will soon be taken for granted in AAA titles aimed at the PS5 and XBox1X1Xbox1X or whatever it is.
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As usual we have to wait for real world benchmarks. Nvidia promo material is likely full of exaggerations and cherry picked benches (been there, done that).

90% of us, or more, only care about raw power. I don't own a single game that supports RTX, and things like hardware green screening for streamers is worthless to me. I also question who the hell needs 400hz refresh support. I've got a 200hz Gsync monitor that I cap most games to 90 (running a 5K 3440x1440) to keep the frames smooth. Smoothness is more important to me than raw FPS. I see virtually no difference in games that can go up to 200. What most people want is STEADY 90+ FPS in 4 or 5k.

I would avoid the founders editions (what we used to call reference designs). Not thrilled about the cooler design that dumps half the heat on top of the CPU and the RAM. EVGA and MSI are both sticking to their traditional 3 fan system that avoids sending air over the CPU.

For those that care, the founders edition 3070 & 3080 don't have SLI, but the EVGA and MSI cards do (you can clearly see the SLI connectors on their website photos).

I will probably wait for the EVGA 3080Ti version which should have more RAM. By then any bugs will be worked out. For now my old faithful 1080 is doing the job just fine in all the games I play. Sure I wouldn't mind some more frames in BF3 and KF2 (the modded Turbo servers I play on with double the Zeds really hammers the framerate), but it's all good right now.

My real excuse for this card is for whenever I decide to buy MS Flight Simulator.
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HorrorScope wrote on Sep 2, 2020, 10:57:
VaranDragon wrote on Sep 2, 2020, 05:02:
I wonder what the sweet-spot would be for me, or even if any of these graphics cards can hit it. I mean the 3090 sure, I guess, but Im not paying as much for a graphics card as for an entire PC system.

My sweet spot is running a Rift S at 90FPS. That would be my goal kind of. Or at least at 40 ASW that it NEVER drops below 40FPS.

I would be surprised that these cards don't get you that.

I doubt it. And if so which ones? The 2080Ti struggles to maintain 90FPS in DCS for example. (In VR). I think Ill wait and see.
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VaranDragon wrote on Sep 2, 2020, 05:02:
I wonder what the sweet-spot would be for me, or even if any of these graphics cards can hit it. I mean the 3090 sure, I guess, but Im not paying as much for a graphics card as for an entire PC system.

My sweet spot is running a Rift S at 90FPS. That would be my goal kind of. Or at least at 40 ASW that it NEVER drops below 40FPS.

I would be surprised that these cards don't get you that.
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I think a 3080ti variant will come at some point (probably early next year to throatpunch AMD again) but I'm not sure the extra memory will be necessary given the huge I/O improvements we've seen in next gen consoles that's getting implemented into DirectStorage and whatever Nvidia's proprietary stuff is.

But I have a desire to not buy anything for a few generations and saved up the bling so I'm going for the 3090 and removing all doubt from the equation, assuming I can get one since it seems like stock will be pretty limited.

People have expressed doubts about the rasterization performance improvements but I do believe RTX is going to mature this generation and that this is a much better jumping in point, second iteration of new tech and all that.

Anyways great event and trolling by Jensen, I didn't even notice the card behind the spatulas.
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VaranDragon wrote on Sep 2, 2020, 05:02:
My sweet spot is running a Rift S at 90FPS.

Yip, I gotta see/read about the VR experience before I buy it or big navi.

shul wrote on Sep 2, 2020, 07:48:
each time we get to this point I buy the mid level card, I had the 970 and 1070 and probably the mid level 3dfx and ATIs when I had them. about a year ago I got a used 1080 and suddenly everything clicked, I could play games made for the 10xx era like they were supposed to be played. it was that big of a difference, no more stuttering, no more sluggishness; it reminded me of something a friend told me once - game devs will develop on the best HW they can find, so the game will be optimized to that. even recent games are holding up pretty good on the 1080. so this time I am going head first and buying the flagship 3080.

- there is 3090

wait, what ??

I bought the launch generation of EVGA GTX 1080 and had to RMA it TWICE... which meant queuing because they were sold out everywhere. Just because it's the flagship doesn't mean it will work flawlessly.

[Edit] but I totally agree about the gaming experience, going from xx70 to xx80

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each time we get to this point I buy the mid level card, I had the 970 and 1070 and probably the mid level 3dfx and ATIs when I had them. about a year ago I got a used 1080 and suddenly everything clicked, I could play games made for the 10xx era like they were supposed to be played. it was that big of a difference, no more stuttering, no more sluggishness; it reminded me of something a friend told me once - game devs will develop on the best HW they can find, so the game will be optimized to that. even recent games are holding up pretty good on the 1080. so this time I am going head first and buying the flagship 3080.

- there is 3090

wait, what ??
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I wonder what the sweet-spot would be for me, or even if any of these graphics cards can hit it. I mean the 3090 sure, I guess, but Im not paying as much for a graphics card as for an entire PC system.

My sweet spot is running a Rift S at 90FPS. That would be my goal kind of. Or at least at 40 ASW that it NEVER drops below 40FPS.
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Cutter wrote on Sep 1, 2020, 19:45:
$1600 CDN for a video card? What the fuck are they smoking at Nvidia? They must be chasing the dragon.

Ray-traced dragons rendered by 28 billion transistors.
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Nvidia RTX IO is also looking to take on the fast SSD specs the next gens are touting, nice. Possibly even making Vram less needed.
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Slick wrote on Sep 1, 2020, 20:43:
Let the street fight happen where it needs to be, traditional rasterized performance, with a side note of DXR (which is fair to say is an even playing field, RTX doesn't have some secret sauce, it's just their solution to drive microsoft's directx-raytracing). The price premium on those tensor cores is silly to sorta maybe kinda one day hope that the game you want to play will support it. Get real. You'd think Chris Roberts was wearing the leather jacket with all this fucking creep going on.
I mean fair enough, be a skeptic, wait for the real numbers based on retail samples (not press samples). Both AMD and nvidia have been caught cheating at stuff before.

However, something to think about, the official specs on the 3080 are that there's 8704 cuda cores, vs the 2944 cuda cores of the 2080. There's also a good amount more transistors. So those cores are doing something
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If DLSS 3.0 delivers what it says, any TAA game with a Game Ready driver, it's just game changing. I get you don't like their proprietary stuff but they are the state of the art, this is business, there are investors. While we would love everyone to share one share all, it isn't realistic or even fair to hold someone to that ideal in the world we live in. I can't fault them. AMD I'm all ears. Ya done good with your CPU vs a competitor in a corporate daze, but no daze over at nvidia.
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HorrorScope wrote on Sep 1, 2020, 20:13:
Slick wrote on Sep 1, 2020, 19:55:
Overon wrote on Sep 1, 2020, 17:21:
I suggest everyone wait to see what AMD releases and see how it competes. I hope it's competitive and then let the price war commence!

Wiser words have not been uttered in this thread thus far. +1

These very cherry-picked percentage gains are VEEEEEEEEERY questionable.

I mean come on, you start with Boarderlands 3?

Did any of you all out there play it?

I did.


They are still noticeable % gains. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWD01yUQdVA

I came away from this impressed, that said, yeah I'm waiting for more benchmarks. But a 65% to 100% over the 2080. 70% traditional and 90% RTX. My first guess vs a 2080ti makes it 35% faster in traditional and 55% faster in RTX based games playing with #'s early and all that at more of a traditional x80 price vs whatever that 2080ti price was. This looks like it is going be better than the 900 to 1000 series boosts and that was one of the best from them in quite some time.

My minimum panacea is 1440P(maybe now UWide) never below 72, never. With the larger goal of a minimum 90 FPS ever, locked frame-rates, I like overhead and keeping heat down. So either is end game for me for a good while and I've never had it where I could say 72 or 90 all times no matter what.

DLSS 2.0 and now 3.0, yeah good times. VR 2.0?

The way it's presented it does sound impressive. But it's the deceitful way it's presented that has me holding my money close to my chest on this one.

Also, I am so not down with using DLSS as a metric. Might as well use Ray Tracing as a "standard measurement" lol. If the game's developers haven't coded for it's it does not apply, which we've seen with 2 years of Turing applies to 99% of games. There is a rumour that any game that supports TAA could get DLSS support "with minimal work from developers". But again, BIIIIG grain of salt.

Fuck Big Green and their proprietary garbage.

PhysX, G-sync, GameWorks, and now DLSS.

Let the street fight happen where it needs to be, traditional rasterized performance, with a side note of DXR (which is fair to say is an even playing field, RTX doesn't have some secret sauce, it's just their solution to drive microsoft's directx-raytracing). The price premium on those tensor cores is silly to sorta maybe kinda one day hope that the game you want to play will support it. Get real. You'd think Chris Roberts was wearing the leather jacket with all this fucking creep going on.
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Slick wrote on Sep 1, 2020, 19:55:
Overon wrote on Sep 1, 2020, 17:21:
I suggest everyone wait to see what AMD releases and see how it competes. I hope it's competitive and then let the price war commence!

Wiser words have not been uttered in this thread thus far. +1

These very cherry-picked percentage gains are VEEEEEEEEERY questionable.

I mean come on, you start with Boarderlands 3?

Did any of you all out there play it?

I did.


They are still noticeable % gains. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWD01yUQdVA

I came away from this impressed, that said, yeah I'm waiting for more benchmarks. But a 65% to 100% over the 2080. 70% traditional and 90% RTX. My first guess vs a 2080ti makes it 35% faster in traditional and 55% faster in RTX based games playing with #'s early and all that at more of a traditional x80 price vs whatever that 2080ti price was. This looks like it is going be better than the 900 to 1000 series boosts and that was one of the best from them in quite some time.

My minimum panacea is 1440P(maybe now UWide) never below 72, never. With the larger goal of a minimum 90 FPS ever, locked frame-rates, I like overhead and keeping heat down. So either is end game for me for a good while and I've never had it where I could say 72 or 90 all times no matter what.

DLSS 2.0 and now 3.0, yeah good times. VR 2.0?

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Cutter wrote on Sep 1, 2020, 19:46:
HorrorScope wrote on Sep 1, 2020, 19:22:
If the 3080 hits the numbers they are stating, this will be the first x80 series I've owned for a loooong time. The 3070 looks great, but for that extra $200 you go into another stratosphere. I'm still not caring about 4k at the desktop, but perhaps 1440P UltraWide. Tack on DLSS2.0 and now 3.0, we'll be way ahead of the pixel pushing race than we've ever been. Add a 4700 AMD upcoming and I'll be set for a long time again.

Eclipsing vram doesn't have to mean stutters and bad performance it just could and perhaps there are some other techs here to improve on it.

$700 is at my absolute max, less something stupid crazy dropped, so a ti coming out at 800-900 wouldn't matter to me.

Thank you but I'll be building a new AMD system this Fall for 1/4 of the price and just as good.

Nah yah won't the 4700 will be AMD and while not impossible, I doubt they are going to beat the 3080. My proc is 8 years old and served me well, 2 GPU updates since 1060 to 2060. Putting down $1250 for new cpu,gpu,mb,ram. Worth it. This is what I do.
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Overon wrote on Sep 1, 2020, 17:21:
I suggest everyone wait to see what AMD releases and see how it competes. I hope it's competitive and then let the price war commence!

Wiser words have not been uttered in this thread thus far. +1

These very cherry-picked percentage gains are VEEEEEEEEERY questionable.

I mean come on, you start with Boarderlands 3?

Did any of you all out there play it?

I did.

I Looked about the same as Boarderlands 1 did 10 years ago, except for some reason with 10 years worth of CPU and GPU and SSD and RAM upgrades... Boarderlands 3 ran at about the same FPS as I was getting back with Boarderlands 1 with equivalent enthusiast hardware of its day.

It should be more like 300% boost lol. It means, they've been able to brute force through Unreal Engine 4's (probably) texture memory chokepoints which is more of a feature of the underlying microsoft fast transfer hard drive shit (what did they call it? Frivolous Speed Technology?) The same shit they're stuffing into the Xbox Series X. That's coming to windows, and these benchmarks are showing that featureset on a beta version of windows I am willing to bet on.

These +% numbers seem very misleading, and once we have the full picture, we'll see what's really happening.
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I love all the comments of "if I buy this now then in 6 months something new will come out that's better!" Considering the crowd here, I'm not sure that this should be surprising news
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HorrorScope wrote on Sep 1, 2020, 19:22:
If the 3080 hits the numbers they are stating, this will be the first x80 series I've owned for a loooong time. The 3070 looks great, but for that extra $200 you go into another stratosphere. I'm still not caring about 4k at the desktop, but perhaps 1440P UltraWide. Tack on DLSS2.0 and now 3.0, we'll be way ahead of the pixel pushing race than we've ever been. Add a 4700 AMD upcoming and I'll be set for a long time again.

Eclipsing vram doesn't have to mean stutters and bad performance it just could and perhaps there are some other techs here to improve on it.

$700 is at my absolute max, less something stupid crazy dropped, so a ti coming out at 800-900 wouldn't matter to me.

Thank you but I'll be building a new AMD system this Fall for 1/4 of the price and just as good.
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jacobvandy wrote on Sep 1, 2020, 19:30:
75% of GeForce users play esports, huh? Sounds like they're counting every person who plays an FPS or strategy game.. Might as well count every daily commuter doing 80 on the freeway as a race car driver.
Everyone who has a bicycle in the garage is a Tour de France participants.
Begs the question: What else doe GeForce know about its users.

I get a warm fuzzy knowing that every piece of software i use, from my os to my gpu drivers is ratting me out non-stop.
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$1600 CDN for a video card? What the fuck are they smoking at Nvidia? They must be chasing the dragon.

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