chickenboo wrote on Aug 13, 2020, 11:54:
I played the single player campaign twice through on release, but then Unreal came out just five months later and its campaign blew me away with its colored lighting, transparency, imaginative levels, better music, and so on. I have vague memories of coming back to Q2 after a couple months playing Unreal and finding it kinda dry and boring. I never really got into multiplayer, maybe only played half a dozen matches.
Then Half-Life came out in November... and Tribes in December of '98. What a time for gaming that was! *nostalgic sigh*

Unreal was OK. Nice engine though. Yeah, I miss the rad 80s to 90s. For me, classic DOOM and Wolf3D were the big FPSes. Bethesda should give out free classic DOOMs! Maybe in three years?

I played the single player campaign twice through on release, but then Unreal came out just five months later and its campaign blew me away with its colored lighting, transparency, imaginative levels, better music, and so on. I have vague memories of coming back to Q2 after a couple months playing Unreal and finding it kinda dry and boring. I never really got into multiplayer, maybe only played half a dozen matches.
Then Half-Life came out in November... and Tribes in December of '98. What a time for gaming that was! *nostalgic sigh*

Wow, and that just came out too. So, it's not even old games that have already been monetized. Still, there's only so much time for games. At this rate the free collection of games I haven't gotten to yet will exceed the paid games I haven't gotten to yet.

That's actually amazing.

Beamer wrote on Aug 13, 2020, 10:25:

JohnBirshire wrote on Aug 13, 2020, 10:13:
People be installing 50 different launchers just to get 100's of free games that cost a grand total of two days of minimum wage.

Actually, most EGS games have been worth well more, several considerably more, and honestly, what harm is a launcher if you only run it when you use it?

True, between things like GTAV and Kingdom Come Deliverance (and now for 24 hours, Total War Saga: Troy), you're looking at some decently priced games given out for free. That doesn't even include the more niche titles, all for the cost of the use of a launcher, which, at worst, has the same information that Steam collects and doesn't have a shopping cart.

First world problems...

JohnBirshire wrote on Aug 13, 2020, 10:13:
People be installing 50 different launchers just to get 100's of free games that cost a grand total of two days of minimum wage.

Just got me the ***surprise 1 day only***, free copy of A Total War Saga TROY
from the EGS.
Next 24 hours ONLY,
https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/a-total-war-saga-troy/home

plus Remnant From the Ashes, and The Alto Collection (these for the usual week)

You were saying ...
Besides, there are thousands of gamers that make minimum wage or less a month, and can't afford paid games at all, fortunate of you to gladly dismiss such a worry.


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Ant wrote on Aug 13, 2020, 00:57:

Acleacius wrote on Aug 13, 2020, 00:56:
Easier and more useful just to buy it on Steam for $1.50 .

But it's not free.

It's free if you don't count the $1.50 !

JohnBirshire wrote on Aug 13, 2020, 10:13:
People be installing 50 different launchers just to get 100's of free games that cost a grand total of two days of minimum wage.

Actually, most EGS games have been worth well more, several considerably more, and honestly, what harm is a launcher if you only run it when you use it?

People be installing 50 different launchers just to get 100's of free games that cost a grand total of two days of minimum wage.

Or you could get the Quake games completely launcher-free from GOG.

Just sayin'.

- Quake 1 to this day with the Darkplaces engine, is beautiful specially the non tech levels, great gameplay, excellent expansions, and amazing campaign mods (Arcane Dimensions, etc, etc, etc, go to www.quaddicted.com, tons of high rated SP maps)
Fans going strong with non-stop new maps releasing often.

- But Quake 2, though excellent in multiplayer, has a joke SP action.
Enemies that run around instead of shooting you, or stand rooted to the ground.
One enemy behind every previsible corner as expected.
Hidden doors with enemy in un-aired closets that spent all day there just waiting for you.
Fuzzy faces, samey corridors, go there and back and get lost and repeat gameplay.
Boring.
Fans' works basically died rapidly years ago.

- No wonder Quake 3 had no single player campaign.

I preferred even the Juggernaut Quake 2 crappy campaign total conversion for better, more interesting gameplay, warts and all, specially in later maps.

A couple weeks ago played Quake 2, couldnt't finish it, hated every dumb game decision.
Doggedly, finished Quake II The Reckoning expansion, boooring.
Should try Ground Zero again, don't remember much.

I suppose there are good SP levels, but the base mechanics will be the same poor mix.


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I tried the RTX version, worked surprisingly well on my system (RTX 2060) but there was a huge problem which made it unplayable for me. For some reason they messed up the input latency and there was no fix at the time. Any single key or mouse press was terribly laggy, somewhere along the line of 100-200ms at least....Has anyone tried it lately, did they maybe fix that shit in the meantime?

Okay, just googled it for a bit. No fix for this.

VaranDragon wrote on Aug 13, 2020, 02:33:
Didnt they release a ray-traced version of this game like 6 months ago? Or was that just a demo?

I think you need to have the game data to play the full game as the download of the RTX version only shipped with the shareware game data. Don't have an RTX card so I don't know for sure. Berserker Q2 looks nice enough on my GTX 1060. I wish someone would release high-detail model pack for the enemy characters to use with the mod.

ColoradoHoudini wrote on Aug 12, 2020, 21:51:
man.. in 1997 i was playing Mark Morrison - Return of the Mack... from my dorm room in the AF.

Don't know why but I connect the Quake 2 Test Release to Natalie Imbruglia - Torn

VaranDragon wrote on Aug 13, 2020, 02:33:
Didnt they release a ray-traced version of this game like 6 months ago? Or was that just a demo?

Quake 2 RTX on steam.

I didn't even know they also had their own launcher. Quake][ really was awesome back in the day though. Probably still awesome now but I have old sucky reflexes now instead of young spry reflexes.

Didnt they release a ray-traced version of this game like 6 months ago? Or was that just a demo?

Acleacius wrote on Aug 13, 2020, 00:56:
Easier and more useful just to buy it on Steam for $1.50 .

But it's not free.

Easier and more useful just to buy it on Steam for $1.50 .

RaZ0r! wrote:
Q2Lithium II w/hook rail only instagib all night long baby

Man after my own heart with those words.... bless you sir *tear* (assuming you're male)

deqer wrote on Aug 12, 2020, 23:48:
Cool. More abuse of the "FREE" word.

It's not free if we're forced to use a launcher we don't want to use.

Not only forced to use your launcher, but to jump through all the hoops in that process, and forced to attach ourselves, as an account, to your database of accounts.

Yep, that's the catch.

I hope I can download, copy the game datas, and use third party binaries to play the games on any computer and OS.

This comment was edited on Aug 13, 2020, 00:55.