jacobvandy wrote on Jul 20, 2020, 19:14:
"Building type game," what?

Dude described the game as a chill game to hang and drink with buds, I'm saying I can do that well in other places like building games, to me it isn't a big sell statement for me.

Cutter wrote on Jul 20, 2020, 20:08:

Osc8r wrote on Jul 20, 2020, 18:03:

Cutter wrote on Jul 20, 2020, 12:37:
And how much money they're leaving behind by only having a PvP focus. PvE is what really sells. I'd try it if it wasn't for that.

Except once the novelty of sailing wears off, the PVE is about as fun as a PVE in a MMO....

I played it during a weekend trial last year solely for the PVE, stayed for the PVP, but still left out of boredom (lack of players/interesting things to do).

Maybe things have changed.

I meant it's the bread and butter of MMO type online games. Just look at WoW. They had 100 PvE servers to every one PvP server. I've nothing against PvP - in shooters and stuff. But something about PvP MMOs that just bring the ganking assholes out of the woodwork. That's a hard pass.

It's not an MMO though. It's a PvP pirate game with some PvE loot to get things started... gotta have something to fight over... and that's the tedious labor of the grinders.

Osc8r wrote on Jul 20, 2020, 18:03:

Cutter wrote on Jul 20, 2020, 12:37:
And how much money they're leaving behind by only having a PvP focus. PvE is what really sells. I'd try it if it wasn't for that.

Except once the novelty of sailing wears off, the PVE is about as fun as a PVE in a MMO....

I played it during a weekend trial last year solely for the PVE, stayed for the PVP, but still left out of boredom (lack of players/interesting things to do).

Maybe things have changed.

I meant it's the bread and butter of MMO type online games. Just look at WoW. They had 100 PvE servers to every one PvP server. I've nothing against PvP - in shooters and stuff. But something about PvP MMOs that just bring the ganking assholes out of the woodwork. That's a hard pass.

"Building type game," what?

Primalchrome wrote on Jul 20, 2020, 15:59:

I have watched my sons watch other people playing this game .... and I don't see the appeal.
It's doesn't look all that great or fun , for more than maybe 30 mins...

It's a low stress PvP/PvE experience that you can do with a few friends. No high stakes leaderboard or redbull twich skills. Just sit around, drink beer, shoot the shit, and sail the high seas knocking out quests and hunting scallawags!

Glad to see they finally built out the game. This title was pure bargain bin material at launch. Seems like so many other titles have done this lately... Launch the skeleton and add the game content over the next 12 months. Sea of Thieves, Fallout 76, No Man's Sky, etc... On one hand, I think it is a piss poor thing to do to consumers (particularly early adopters)...but on the other, it means I wait a year, buy it for a quarter the release price and get the full (really this time) game.

Maybe GAAS isn't so bad if they stick with it. You're description though does nothing for me in selling it, shit ton of low stress building type games out for years now.

Cutter wrote on Jul 20, 2020, 12:37:
And how much money they're leaving behind by only having a PvP focus. PvE is what really sells. I'd try it if it wasn't for that.

Except once the novelty of sailing wears off, the PVE is about as fun as a PVE in a MMO....

I played it during a weekend trial last year solely for the PVE, stayed for the PVP, but still left out of boredom (lack of players/interesting things to do).

Maybe things have changed.

If exclusives are bad for business they will probably go away. Businesses are generally pretty good at learning what's good and what's bad.

I don't think they will go away. If the property is hot: Most of the people who would have bought at launch will still buy it after the port, and you can take that time to learn what went well in the first launch to make your second launch go even better. If the property is not hot, you may get more purchases as the exclusive because it's a perception of value, and you are a bigger player in a smaller pool. And hey, you also get whatever the platform gave you for being exclusive, which is usually a better deal, and lowers your risk.

Angrius Maximis wrote on Jul 20, 2020, 13:51:
this game is total ass. Amazing what crap people will buy

Is it Maximis or Maximus?

fawker wrote on Jul 20, 2020, 12:05:
I assume eventually these publishers will realize how much money they are leaving on the table by doing exclusives.

This has been on their $5 game pass for a long time now.

Short term gains versus long term benefits. The long term benefits typically turn out better.

I have watched my sons watch other people playing this game .... and I don't see the appeal.
It's doesn't look all that great or fun , for more than maybe 30 mins...

It's a low stress PvP/PvE experience that you can do with a few friends. No high stakes leaderboard or redbull twich skills. Just sit around, drink beer, shoot the shit, and sail the high seas knocking out quests and hunting scallawags!

Glad to see they finally built out the game. This title was pure bargain bin material at launch. Seems like so many other titles have done this lately... Launch the skeleton and add the game content over the next 12 months. Sea of Thieves, Fallout 76, No Man's Sky, etc... On one hand, I think it is a piss poor thing to do to consumers (particularly early adopters)...but on the other, it means I wait a year, buy it for a quarter the release price and get the full (really this time) game.

I have watched my sons watch other people playing this game .... and I don't see the appeal.
It's doesn't look all that great or fun , for more than maybe 30 mins...

this game is total ass. Amazing what crap people will buy

fawker wrote on Jul 20, 2020, 12:05:
I assume eventually these publishers will realize how much money they are leaving on the table by doing exclusives.

This has been on their $5 game pass for a long time now.

I look at it another way, it's like releasing for a new platform. They have multiple release days now, more money over a longer period of time.

No sale ever, to pvp only games!

And how much money they're leaving behind by only having a PvP focus. PvE is what really sells. I'd try it if it wasn't for that.

Well allegedly it's an actual game now...

I assume eventually these publishers will realize how much money they are leaving on the table by doing exclusives.

This has been on their $5 game pass for a long time now.