One of the positives over Origin Access is that UPLAY+ does allow access to all content of a title, including DLC and expansions.

Acleacius wrote on Jul 10, 2020, 00:23:

Kxmode wrote on Jul 9, 2020, 15:49:
I'm don't doubt that's what PB does. I'm merely saying my experience with DRM apps remains problem-free. I know people like to jump on the anti-DRM train, but all the negative things they claim Denovo and PB do I've not seen or observed. If either were causing shenanigans, I'd remove them post-haste.

I understand but have no idea how that's even possible. Every creditable testing group, agrees denuvo effects performance and it's damn obvious it effects Loading Times (even an article today 7/9/20 on Blues). It's also well documented about punkbuster, meaning if you have installed something like FC3 it's probably still on your system. Personally I constantly monitor my system installs with malware scans with things like CCleaner and Malwarebytes. But I realize there are millions of people out there who have no idea what's installed on their systems, any more than they do on their phones.

The point being, if your doing these things and think nothings wrong, make sure your checking your systems when peeps are sounds red alerts about systems like ubi. They are well documented for being in the middle of every drm disaster since 2000, whether it's securerom or starforce. Hell, ubi would install a rootkit on your system to control what you can play and what you can't play, if they could get away with it, full stop.

I will. Thanks for the warning.

Kxmode wrote on Jul 9, 2020, 15:49:

Acleacius wrote on Jul 9, 2020, 12:54:

Kxmode wrote on Jul 8, 2020, 23:45:

Acleacius wrote on Jul 8, 2020, 20:53:
What's this, a FREE chance to add Spyware and Malware in the guise of denuvo and punkbuster?! Count me in, please hurt me for FREE! Just the word FREE, makes me hurt.

I have Uplay installed and never experience issues with either.

Install Far Cry 3 (punkbuster) installed without notification or consent. It can keep you from playing your game and stays on your system even after FC3 is uninstalled. At least that's the way it did work. It required a special program downloaded from punkbuster to remove it. If you don't believe, you could always google it.

It's hard to believe I need to list all the ubi games that install denuvo. So I have no idea what's up with your position on it.

I'm don't doubt that's what PB does. I'm merely saying my experience with DRM apps remains problem-free. I know people like to jump on the anti-DRM train, but all the negative things they claim Denovo and PB do I've not seen or observed. If either were causing shenanigans, I'd remove them post-haste.

I understand but have no idea how that's even possible. Every creditable testing group, agrees denuvo effects performance and it's damn obvious it effects Loading Times (even an article today 7/9/20 on Blues). It's also well documented about punkbuster, meaning if you have installed something like FC3 it's probably still on your system. Personally I constantly monitor my system installs with malware scans with things like CCleaner and Malwarebytes. But I realize there are millions of people out there who have no idea what's installed on their systems, any more than they do on their phones.

The point being, if your doing these things and think nothings wrong, make sure your checking your systems when peeps are sounds red alerts about systems like ubi. They are well documented for being in the middle of every drm disaster since 2000, whether it's securerom or starforce. Hell, ubi would install a rootkit on your system to control what you can play and what you can't play, if they could get away with it, full stop.

Acleacius wrote on Jul 9, 2020, 12:54:

Kxmode wrote on Jul 8, 2020, 23:45:

Acleacius wrote on Jul 8, 2020, 20:53:
What's this, a FREE chance to add Spyware and Malware in the guise of denuvo and punkbuster?! Count me in, please hurt me for FREE! Just the word FREE, makes me hurt.

I have Uplay installed and never experience issues with either.

Install Far Cry 3 (punkbuster) installed without notification or consent. It can keep you from playing your game and stays on your system even after FC3 is uninstalled. At least that's the way it did work. It required a special program downloaded from punkbuster to remove it. If you don't believe, you could always google it.

It's hard to believe I need to list all the ubi games that install denuvo. So I have no idea what's up with your position on it.

I'm don't doubt that's what PB does. I'm merely saying my experience with DRM apps remains problem-free. I know people like to jump on the anti-DRM train, but all the negative things they claim Denovo and PB do I've not seen or observed. If either were causing shenanigans, I'd remove them post-haste.

Kxmode wrote on Jul 8, 2020, 23:45:

Acleacius wrote on Jul 8, 2020, 20:53:
What's this, a FREE chance to add Spyware and Malware in the guise of denuvo and punkbuster?! Count me in, please hurt me for FREE! Just the word FREE, makes me hurt.

I have Uplay installed and never experience issues with either.

Install Far Cry 3 (punkbuster) installed without notification or consent. It can keep you from playing your game and stays on your system even after FC3 is uninstalled. At least that's the way it did work. It required a special program downloaded from punkbuster to remove it. If you don't believe, you could always google it.

It's hard to believe I need to list all the ubi games that install denuvo. So I have no idea what's up with your position on it.

This will be perfect to try Anno 1800 for a week

Icewind wrote on Jul 9, 2020, 01:02:

Kxmode wrote on Jul 8, 2020, 23:47:

Cutter wrote on Jul 8, 2020, 21:14:
Not a good deal considering you can get Origin Access for $30 a year.

Considering UPlay is Ubisoft's games, and Origin is EA's games, I'm not sure how that comparison works. Are you saying EA's subscription service offers more?

Steam now carries all of the EA games that EA pulled from their store, as well as all the Ubi games. So I don't see a reason to use either Origin or Uplay.

Given that most of the high profile EA &Ubisoft games on Steam still require the respective accounts, you're almost certainly still using the Origin and Uplay launchers (running in the background) even when you launch the "Steam" version.

Seems pretty costly to me..... maybe $5 / month would be a fair cost ?
Sure UBI has a lot of games to play , but seriously how much gaming could 1 person fit in at 1 time ....

Kxmode wrote on Jul 8, 2020, 23:47:

Cutter wrote on Jul 8, 2020, 21:14:
Not a good deal considering you can get Origin Access for $30 a year.

Considering UPlay is Ubisoft's games, and Origin is EA's games, I'm not sure how that comparison works. Are you saying EA's subscription service offers more?

15$ a month vs 30$ a year!

(Not that I would personally pay a dime for either, its just math)

Icewind wrote on Jul 9, 2020, 01:02:
Steam now carries all of the EA games that EA pulled from their store, as well as all the Ubi games. So I don't see a reason to use either Origin or Uplay.

I generally don't either, but at the same time it's worth checking to see if any game you might be interested in is part of Origin Access. I wanted to try Anthem, but wasn't ready to shell out full price for it, played it for a month, along with trying a few other games I was interested in. Got my fill, decided I didn't want to spend full price on it. Total cost, $20 to play 4 or 5 games as much until I wasn't interested in them anymore.

It was definitely worth it for me, but I wouldn't maintain a subscription with them. I just keep an eye out and if there are a few games I'm interested in but not willing to pull the trigger on at full price, I might drop another $20 with them again to see if they're worth buying.

Did the same with the Xbox game pass for PC which had a $1 trial month, very much worth it to try a few games I was interested in.

I don't know that there are enough Ubisoft games that interest me though outside of the ones I've already bought.

Also, should be pointed out that the $30 yearly is only for the basic Origin Access. The premier that includes their newer big title games is $130 a year, though there is a ton of games still offered in the basic. Way more than ubi seems to offer. Still if there's a game on there you might be interested in, could try it full for 7 days.

Kxmode wrote on Jul 8, 2020, 23:47:

Cutter wrote on Jul 8, 2020, 21:14:
Not a good deal considering you can get Origin Access for $30 a year.

Considering UPlay is Ubisoft's games, and Origin is EA's games, I'm not sure how that comparison works. Are you saying EA's subscription service offers more?

Steam now carries all of the EA games that EA pulled from their store, as well as all the Ubi games. So I don't see a reason to use either Origin or Uplay.

I was looking at the list of games and I don't see a single game I want to try (that I don't already own). Unlike others, I am not against using another service. However, it is not a good sign when you can't even get me to sign up for the free week.

Cutter wrote on Jul 8, 2020, 21:14:
Not a good deal considering you can get Origin Access for $30 a year.

Considering UPlay is Ubisoft's games, and Origin is EA's games, I'm not sure how that comparison works. Are you saying EA's subscription service offers more?

Acleacius wrote on Jul 8, 2020, 20:53:
What's this, a FREE chance to add Spyware and Malware in the guise of denuvo and punkbuster?! Count me in, please hurt me for FREE! Just the word FREE, makes me hurt.

I have Uplay installed and never experience issues with either.

Am I blind? US only apparently.

Not a good deal considering you can get Origin Access for $30 a year.

You couldn’t pay me enough to download this garbage,

What's this, a FREE chance to add Spyware and Malware in the guise of denuvo and punkbuster?! Count me in, please hurt me for FREE! Just the word FREE, makes me hurt.

You register there only for that trial, they collect payment information then later there is a leak and everything is sold on black market.