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Don't like Federal Law Enforcement in your city?

Have you tried NOT burning and looting to see if that helps?
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Re: Evening Metaverse
Jul 9, 2020, 13:41
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Beamer wrote on Jul 9, 2020, 10:01:
Julian Delphiki wrote on Jul 9, 2020, 09:52:

"You're being radicalized" is hysterical.

Listen, we're talking about the Redskins in this thread. Is there a single reason why anyone would want the name to remain what is objectively a slur other than "that's the way it's always been done?"
And can you find many non-conservatives that don't think the name should be changed?

What if we extend this out to taking down statues of Confederate leaders? What if we go back far enough to wanting to allow interracial marriage?

I can take it back to "socially conservative," which is what I meant, and is generally what "conservative" means in this country, as you don't find too many political platforms aimed around fiscal conservatism, nor do you find anyone frequently discussing it. And you don't find too many leaders of large organizations that are socially conservative.

Your logic is all over the place in this discussion. First you made general comments about conservatives as a group and use a straw man argument blanketing all conservatives as never wanting to seek improvement. Then you postulate that they are all afraid and hiding in their mediocrity. You finally conclude that in an office environment, they must be always getting passed up for promotions, inferring there is a level of ineptness applying only to the conservative. Your statements have absolutely nothing to do with the Washington Redskins and everything to do with attacking your 'conservative' class of people which you did not elaborate on at all. It was simply a judgmental rant based on false assumptions and incorrect facts. In this very reply you argue you're talking about the Washington Redskins, yet in the very next paragraph shift to statues and interracial marriage. Which is it?

The fact you find my statement about radicalization hysterical only reinforces my argument. If your mind is already filtering out discussions to the point where you don't take other possibilities seriously how can you claim to be open to diverse thoughts and opinions? That is more typical of people who have been told what to think and not how to think.

Complex discussions like this are not meant for forums and social media or media in general. You need to talk to people face-to-face to really empathize and understand the other true arguments (not the straw man arguments always referenced in media) so you can make an intelligent decision for yourself and learn something new about the other party.

My only other recommendation for you is to be cautious using a modern lens to judge history lest you be judged yourself by your children and their children in the same fashion. It's easy for us to do that, but take the time to put yourself in their shoes at that point in history with the upbringing they themselves had and imagine what was going through their head with regard to a very specific decision that was made. Don't use generalities, focus on specific decision points. I believe you will learn a lot if you take that approach and use it throughout your life.
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Re: Evening Metaverse
Jul 9, 2020, 10:46
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Sluggabed wrote on Jul 9, 2020, 10:44:
If the name is culturally inappropriate, then went has Amazon still got their name. They're not the Amazon, or in the region. This current mindset of thinking is beyond toxic, illogical and just plain dumb.

You're comparing naming oneself after a river to naming oneself after a slur for specific people?
That sounds like a valid comparison to you?
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Re: Evening Metaverse
Jul 9, 2020, 10:44
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If the name is culturally inappropriate, then went has Amazon still got their name. They're not the Amazon, or in the region. This current mindset of thinking is beyond toxic, illogical and just plain dumb.
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Re: Evening Metaverse
Jul 9, 2020, 10:01
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Jul 9, 2020, 10:01
 Beamer
 
Julian Delphiki wrote on Jul 9, 2020, 09:52:
Beamer wrote on Jul 9, 2020, 09:37:
"Conservative" really is the right term. It's amazing how against change they are. They think the way things have always been done is fine and good, and there's no reason to ever improve.

Or, perhaps, they believe that the way things are currently done hides their mediocrity, and are afraid that changing to a more level playing field will reveal how mediocre they are.

In any case, whenever there's discussion of change, they hate it. Everything is best the way they know it to be, and updating anything based upon improved understanding is wrong and immoral. I just imagine them in office jobs, constantly getting passed up for promotion, wondering why, but any time someone wants to improve something they chirp up with "but that's not how we do it!"

That's a very blatant mis-generalization and points out your hypocrisy when it comes to supporting diverse and differing opinions. There are many conservatives who are very successful in nearly every business environment. Being conservative doesn't mean you're never open to any change and that you don't listen to feedback from the team members you're leading. You are using a straw man argument to pin a label of shame on a group of people you don't happen to agree with on a few particular issues. I'd suggest you unplug for a bit and talk to real people who are outside your general circle of friends. You're being radicalized by the echo chambers you're communicating in and it's closing your mind off to the possibility that different opinions are not wrong, they are different.

"You're being radicalized" is hysterical.

Listen, we're talking about the Redskins in this thread. Is there a single reason why anyone would want the name to remain what is objectively a slur other than "that's the way it's always been done?"
And can you find many non-conservatives that don't think the name should be changed?

What if we extend this out to taking down statues of Confederate leaders? What if we go back far enough to wanting to allow interracial marriage?

I can take it back to "socially conservative," which is what I meant, and is generally what "conservative" means in this country, as you don't find too many political platforms aimed around fiscal conservatism, nor do you find anyone frequently discussing it. And you don't find too many leaders of large organizations that are socially conservative.
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Re: Evening Metaverse
Jul 9, 2020, 09:52
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Beamer wrote on Jul 9, 2020, 09:37:
"Conservative" really is the right term. It's amazing how against change they are. They think the way things have always been done is fine and good, and there's no reason to ever improve.

Or, perhaps, they believe that the way things are currently done hides their mediocrity, and are afraid that changing to a more level playing field will reveal how mediocre they are.

In any case, whenever there's discussion of change, they hate it. Everything is best the way they know it to be, and updating anything based upon improved understanding is wrong and immoral. I just imagine them in office jobs, constantly getting passed up for promotion, wondering why, but any time someone wants to improve something they chirp up with "but that's not how we do it!"

That's a very blatantly incorrect generalization and points out your hypocrisy when it comes to supporting diverse and differing opinions. There are many conservatives who are very successful in nearly every business environment. Being conservative doesn't mean you're never open to any change and that you don't listen to feedback from the team members you're leading. You are using a straw man argument to pin a label of shame on a group of people you don't happen to agree with on a few particular issues. I'd suggest you unplug for a bit and talk to real people who are outside your general circle of friends. You're being radicalized by the echo chambers you're communicating in and it's closing your mind off to the possibility that different opinions are not wrong, they are different.

This comment was edited on Jul 9, 2020, 10:13.
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Re: Evening Metaverse
Jul 9, 2020, 09:37
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Jul 9, 2020, 09:37
 Beamer
 
"Conservative" really is the right term. It's amazing how against change they are. They think the way things have always been done is fine and good, and there's no reason to ever improve.

Or, perhaps, they believe that the way things are currently done hides their mediocrity, and are afraid that changing to a more level playing field will reveal how mediocre they are.

In any case, whenever there's discussion of change, they hate it. Everything is best the way they know it to be, and updating anything based upon improved understanding is wrong and immoral. I just imagine them in office jobs, constantly getting passed up for promotion, wondering why, but any time someone wants to improve something they chirp up with "but that's not how we do it!"
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double post
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Darks wrote on Jul 8, 2020, 21:40:
New name, Washington Tail Tuckers.

Fits them perfectly!

Should really be the Washington Corporate Lobbyists... I mean they own/run the place.
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I hope the Boys doesn't fall into an all too common pattern of television series where season 1 is really good, but season 2 sucks.
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Jul 8, 2020, 22:06
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Leave it to the rwnj snowflakes to be triggered by something they don't understand.
A mask is not a political statement.
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Re: Evening Metaverse
Jul 8, 2020, 21:40
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 Darks
 
New name, Washington Tail Tuckers.

Fits them perfectly!
Creator of the Neverwnter Nights Eye of the Beholder Series of Mods.

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Re: Evening Metaverse
Jul 8, 2020, 21:28
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The new Washington Grovelers merch is going to be amazing. Picking up some for the Doctor.
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Jul 8, 2020, 21:05
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Jul 8, 2020, 21:05
 
The Boys Season 2 - Exclusive Clip
definitely spoiler territory
Over 3 minutes of actual "gameplay" Wink
https://youtu.be/1OC5NSRW9Lw
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Re: Evening Metaverse
Jul 8, 2020, 20:59
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Boys, please don't suck! Drunk2 Golfclap
The worst criminal in human history, undeniably. There has never been a figure in political history, so dedicated to destroying the prospects of organized human life on the planet, in the near future.

Beating and Gassing Americans for Jesus!
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Re: Evening Metaverse
Jul 8, 2020, 20:53
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Definitely looking forward to The Boys. It's a good sign when you laugh through the whole trailer. Biggrin
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