Cyberpunk 2077 Removing Phallic Symbols for Japan and Wall-Running for All

PC Gamer reveals that Cyberpunk 2077 will be censored in Japan, hearing from CD PROJEKT RED that the sci-fi RPG will remove nudity and "genital shaped objects." Word is: "the changes have been made in order to comply with the Japanese rating agency CERO's requirements. Instances of nudity will be covered up with underwear in Japan, including on the protagonist." Another thing that's being cut from the game in all regions is wall-running. This was previously shown off, but a recent article on GameReactor says this is being ditched. Level designer Max Pears explains they are apparently done banging their heads against the wall getting this to work:
"Ah, the wall running" Pears exclaimed, "that is something that we removed due to design reasons, but there's still going to be a lot of flexibility in how you move, that's for sure".
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Timmeh wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 15:03:
GothicWizard wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 11:42:
Re: Wall running, like the name implies I assume that was some kind of running along the walls horizontal w/ the floor like matrix style combat? I can see where that would cause massive headaches and map design issues.

As for Japan as said previously they are very sexually repressed. So not surprising. We are just starting to get over our silly Puritan views of nudity and sex and they are living like it's still 1880. Not a shock why underground genshi, sex clubs and hentai is so popular over there.

Having lived in japan for several years...

They are not sexually repressed, this move makes no sense. The book stores there are full of Echi, soft core, hentai etc.... It was a shock coming from the USA.

If you lived in Japan, you would know that all depictions of genitalia are mosaic'd. That includes video games. So this move makes perfect sense: they either have to remove it, or they have to give it the MineCraft treatment.
(I was going to link to an image, but y'all know how to google.)
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El Pit wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 12:31:

Is this why you can buy used schoolgirl panties from vending machines in Japan?

It's partly because of the censorship that fetishes have flourished.
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Slashman wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 12:21:
jamiedj99 wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 12:06:
I guess they forgot to mention of japan where nudity is not allowed but PC games Called Rape play where your stalk and rape girls is totally allowed.

It's a very weird combination of seemingly opposing views existing together.

For example...there is a penis festival in Japan. With penis shaped props and everything. But genitals are banned from porn and games.

And I have seen some of the most depraved sex style games you can think of with rape and torture and everything in between. But the authorities think that if they just block out the genitals...its A-OK.

I believe it a case of most people having their kinks (like all of us) but it is considered horrible to publicly display them openly.

And the low birth rates are seemingly more related to economic conditions. With women expecting a man to be the sole upkeeper of the home while they stay home and mind the children. Its a bit more complex than that but you have the gist of it.
Low birthrates in Japan are multi-causal.
1) As you say, lack of economic opportunity.
2) Women rejecting gender norms. They actually don't want to stay home and be housewives.
3) Related to that, the average age of marriage is being pushed out. 50 years ago Japanese men and women married in their early 20s on average, now it's late 20s or early 30s. Trying to get pregnant after 30 is difficult.
4) Rise of the internet and otaku culture. It's so much easier to live in your bubble than to interact with people.
5) Declining fertility due to diet and environmental reasons.
6) The effect of education on birthrates. This is the case pretty much around the world, but women in Japan are especially highly educated.

As for the pr0n censorship, the invention and acceptance of fetish is exacerbated by it.
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ForgedReality wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 20:07:
Isn't Japan basically all about wieners and anime porn? Why are they afraid of a little weenie action? O.o

Only pixelized penises permitted.
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Cutter wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 12:29:
Well if I can't run along walls with my penis flopping around I'm out!

You're all aware that each April in Kawasaki they have a Penis Festival - Kanamara Matsuri -, right?

Does this look like a people who are afraid or reviled by the old fella'?

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Isn't Japan basically all about wieners and anime porn? Why are they afraid of a little weenie action? O.o
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I saw a guy roll his on on a stick like a fruit rollup was disturbing

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wtf_man wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 13:59:
Cutter wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 12:29:
Well if I can't run along walls with my penis flopping around I'm out!

But does it hang low?
Does it wobble to and fro?
Can you tie it in a knot?
Can you tie it in a bow?

I know a guy....
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wtf_man wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 13:59:
Cutter wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 12:29:
Well if I can't run along walls with my penis flopping around I'm out!

But does it hang low?
Does it wobble to and fro?
Can you tie it in a knot?
Can you tie it in a bow?

I know a guy....
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Xero wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 12:56:
I'll admit, since playing a lot of Titan Fall 2 lately where wall running is a huge component, it turns the FPS into more of a platformer that I don't think I need. The levels get tailored to the wall running and they don't feel natural at all. More like arenas. Not sure I need that in a game that is trying to push for some kind of realistic looking future.

Good point. Also some games that have this add puzzles into the equation, no thanks to that.
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Timmeh wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 15:03:
GothicWizard wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 11:42:
Re: Wall running, like the name implies I assume that was some kind of running along the walls horizontal w/ the floor like matrix style combat? I can see where that would cause massive headaches and map design issues.

As for Japan as said previously they are very sexually repressed. So not surprising. We are just starting to get over our silly Puritan views of nudity and sex and they are living like it's still 1880. Not a shock why underground genshi, sex clubs and hentai is so popular over there.

Having lived in japan for several years...

They are not sexually repressed, this move makes no sense. The book stores there are full of Echi, soft core, hentai etc.... It was a shock coming from the USA.

These guys see some pixelated dongs in porn and suddenly it's "Japan is very sexually repressed" lol
They just have a weird and illogical law on the books that's never been fixed regarding porn... otherwise Japan is kind of sex crazy... and no despite the popular theory it's not because of the pixelization.
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Timmeh wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 15:03:
GothicWizard wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 11:42:

As for Japan as said previously they are very sexually repressed. So not surprising. We are just starting to get over our silly Puritan views of nudity and sex and they are living like it's still 1880. Not a shock why underground genshi, sex clubs and hentai is so popular over there.

Having lived in japan for several years...

They are not sexually repressed, this move makes no sense. The book stores there are full of Echi, soft core, hentai etc.... It was a shock coming from the USA.
I remember seeing some weird Japanese festival on tv which was some kind of fertility festival where they were selling penis-shaped ice creams in the street...On the other hand, they are going to annoy a studio that have better things to do with their spare time.
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El Pit wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 12:31:
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 11:27:
eRe4s3r wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 11:23:
Just remember, Japan is the country with the lowest birth-rates of ALL western developed nations. I am sure showing a cybernetic dingus would completely devastate those poor untainted souls.

Post WW2, the US somehow successfully instilled sex-shaming and weird Puritan-ish values in Japan. It's a tragedy. The nation has not recovered at all from that, and statistically is unlikely to, before their population dips too low to be sustainable as a country.

Is this why you can buy used schoolgirl panties from vending machines in Japan?

Weird shit like that being simultaneously ostracized but legally allowed in Japan most definitely contributes to their lower birth rates as a country. Probably not as much as insane work hours demanded by most companies, but it can't be helping.
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GothicWizard wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 11:42:
Re: Wall running, like the name implies I assume that was some kind of running along the walls horizontal w/ the floor like matrix style combat? I can see where that would cause massive headaches and map design issues.

As for Japan as said previously they are very sexually repressed. So not surprising. We are just starting to get over our silly Puritan views of nudity and sex and they are living like it's still 1880. Not a shock why underground genshi, sex clubs and hentai is so popular over there.

Having lived in japan for several years...

They are not sexually repressed, this move makes no sense. The book stores there are full of Echi, soft core, hentai etc.... It was a shock coming from the USA.
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Darks wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 13:13:
Slashman wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 12:21:
jamiedj99 wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 12:06:
I guess they forgot to mention of japan where nudity is not allowed but PC games Called Rape play where your stalk and rape girls is totally allowed.


For example...there is a penis festival in Japan. With penis shaped props and everything. But genitals are banned from porn and games.


Do you even know what that festival is all about? Its not about sex in the way you might be thinking, its about bringing luck and fertility to couples looking to have children and to promote couples to have kids.

And Im so glad they removed that bullshit wall running I hate that crap in games.

It doesn't matter what its about. It is a penis festival. The ban on genitals in media also doesn't specifically have to do with sex...it is all banned.

And wall running was awesome in the Jedi Knight games.
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Cutter wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 12:29:
Well if I can't run along walls with my penis flopping around I'm out!

But does it hang low?
Does it wobble to and fro?
Can you tie it in a knot?
Can you tie it in a bow?
Get your games from GOG DAMMIT!
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NKD wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 13:22:
Don't care about wall running but you can pry my phallic symbol from my cold dead hands!!

That's how your palms get hairy.
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Xero wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 12:56:
I'll admit, since playing a lot of Titan Fall 2 lately where wall running is a huge component, it turns the FPS into more of a platformer that I don't think I need. The levels get tailored to the wall running and they don't feel natural at all.

I agree to that, just look at the wall running or climbing in Jedi Fallen Order or Doom Eternal! It's so obvious build into the maps...
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Don't care about wall running but you can pry my phallic symbol from my cold dead hands!!
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Slashman wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 12:21:
jamiedj99 wrote on Jul 1, 2020, 12:06:
I guess they forgot to mention of japan where nudity is not allowed but PC games Called Rape play where your stalk and rape girls is totally allowed.


For example...there is a penis festival in Japan. With penis shaped props and everything. But genitals are banned from porn and games.


Do you even know what that festival is all about? Its not about sex in the way you might be thinking, its about bringing luck and fertility to couples looking to have children and to promote couples to have kids.

And Im so glad they removed that bullshit wall running I hate that crap in games.
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I am fine with wall running be removed. It is one of my least favorite game mechanics. It always feels gimmicky at best.

As for the non-penile presence in Japan...I don't care. I do not live in Japan.
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