Kxmode wrote on Jun 23, 2020, 21:27:
HorrorScope wrote on Jun 23, 2020, 12:05:
Quinn wrote on Jun 23, 2020, 11:44:
Due process starts to mean less and less.
That could be true, but also consider this, from our POV we really don't know shit. We have a report, I like to assume the company did investigate the claims as any company should then made a determination. We will only ever know a little and we don't even know how accurate. So as due process may seem to mean less, we are sitting behind a keyboard acting all Monday Morning QB ON EVERYTHING. We are as guilty as the media etc in things like this.
Precisely the point I am making. Justice becomes warped when it based on a guilty-upon-proven-innocent premise. Since she chose Twitter instead of a courtroom to hear her case, then the burden of proof is on her. Only "talking" about it isn't evidence.
In other words, if you brought her case before a judge with no evidence and proof, and based everything on hearsay, the judge would dismiss the case. The same should happen here.
That was my point as well. Not sure if MoreLuckThanSkill got that and reiterated it or thought I somehow applauded the pitchforks mentality.
Not talking about Chris' details atm, but what I find nauseating these days is how no agency is expected from the women -- by both the women and their pitchfork buddies. Personally, I have had sex while tipsy and even drunk, with the woman being as tipsy and even drunk. When the mood is right and from one thing comes another, that shouldn't be something to fear. I also had my mornings where we'd both wake up and be like "oh, shit.. we had sex, that'll be awkward", like the cliche movie scene. If that would happen in today's pitchfork culture, I would literally fear for my career and social life.
Women have agency. Every woman and women activist would preach the same preach. Which makes this #metoo movement in many cases highly hypocritical. Not in all cases, of course. I decided to add that last part, because this is the internet and civil discourse is near impossible unless you spell out the obvious. For good measure: RAPE. BAAAAD. This comment was edited on Jun 24, 2020, 03:03.