Chris Avellone No Longer Contributing to Dying Light 2 or Bloodlines 2 After "Me Too" Allegations

Famed game designer Chris Avellone is accused of predatory sexual behavior a screed on twitter. This generated a couple of tweets in corroboration, including one from Monolith writer Samantha Wallschlaeger. Chris offers a couple of apologetic tweets that appear to be in response to this, but he does not directly confirm or deny any of the alleged details (thanks ResetEra). Gamasutra tweets a statement from Paradox Interactive saying that none of Avellone's work will be part of Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2: "Bloodlines 2 publisher Paradox Interactive has been in contact to explain that Avellone was only 'briefly' involved in the project, and that 'none of his contributions remain in the game that Hardsuit Labs is continuing to develop'." And in this tweet Techland announces they are parting ways with Chris, who was contributing to the story of Dying Light 2:
We treat matters of sexual harassment and disrespect with utmost care, and have no tolerance for such behaviors - it applies to both of our employees as well as external consultants, Chris among them. This is why, together with Chris Avellone, we've decided to end our cooperation.

We are still working towards delivering the experience we promised in dying light 2. Both our narrative team, which Chris supported, and the whole development team of dying light to continue progressing efficiently, according to the plan revised at the beginning of the year.
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Jun 23, 2020, 00:50
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Acleacius wrote on Jun 23, 2020, 00:18:
It's clear, Paradox and Techland have investigated this, finding it more than credible enough to fired him, completely erasing his work in one game.
Pretending this is just some random injustice perpetrated on an innocent male is bullshitliy ignorant or intentionally psychotic.
With heaping side of mysogynistic douche.
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Jun 23, 2020, 00:36
 
Man, all my favorites are creeps. I'm sure lots of us have had akward moments with people we regret but this dosn't sound like that. Sure looks like a pattern of behaviour that would be intolerable to an employer, let alone the victims. Maybe it's not Bill Crosby levels but we are all somehwere on that spectrum of shittiness, interesting to see where it become defensible for some people.

My dream of building the ultimate Into the Breach fan site will probably have to stay up in my brain for now.

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Icewind wrote on Jun 22, 2020, 23:30:
So we destroy a man's career over what some girl said in a twitter post. Sounds legit.

So if it's one v one, I might agree with you. But when multiple people start sharing similar stories, and the dude isn't even refuting, then where there's smoke, there's fire.
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Jun 23, 2020, 00:18
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Jun 23, 2020, 00:18
 
It's clear, Paradox and Techland have investigated this, finding it more than credible enough to fired him, completely erasing his work in one game.
Pretending this is just some random injustice perpetrated on an innocent male is bullshitliy ignorant or intentionally psychotic.
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Jun 23, 2020, 00:16
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Jun 23, 2020, 00:16
 
The real question is.... are we willing to lose Bieber over Twitter allegations? Charming
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Jun 23, 2020, 00:04
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Jun 23, 2020, 00:04
 
Kxmode wrote on Jun 22, 2020, 23:39:
Beamer wrote on Jun 22, 2020, 23:29:
Kxmode wrote on Jun 22, 2020, 23:05:
It's important to note she used her Twitter account with over 2K followers as a podium to make career-destroying claims with no evidence. She also retweeted this in the past few hours indicating she doesn't care if what she says is true.

How, precisely, do you interpret that tweet?
Because you're not doing it correctly

She didn't author the post but chose to retweet it indicates she doesn't care what her comments about Chris do to his career. That's how I see it. But sure, I guess someone could interpret it another way. Do realize I used "indicating" in my OP, meaning I am NOT claiming that's what she intended. It is only a guess.

Except the number one reason women cite for not coming forward is fear of burning bridges and ruining their careers.

And, statistically, it's accurate. Women are often punished for this and then considered a risk to hire.

Going forward against a powerful man is considered career suicide. It's how Weinstein lasted decades.
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Jun 22, 2020, 23:56
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Jun 22, 2020, 23:56
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Kxmode wrote on Jun 22, 2020, 23:39:
Beamer wrote on Jun 22, 2020, 23:29:
Kxmode wrote on Jun 22, 2020, 23:05:
It's important to note she used her Twitter account with over 2K followers as a podium to make career-destroying claims with no evidence. She also retweeted this in the past few hours indicating she doesn't care if what she says is true.

How, precisely, do you interpret that tweet?
Because you're not doing it correctly

She didn't author the post but chose to retweet it indicates she doesn't care what her comments about Chris do to his career. That's how I see it. But sure, I guess someone could interpret it another way. Do realize I used "indicating" in my OP, meaning I am NOT claiming that's what she intended. It is only a guess.

"Indicating" does not mean guess or an opinion, you did state that as a fact. I think the phrase "Indicating to me" would have been more appropriate for what you apparently mean.

However, my question remains. How do you make the jump from "she doesn't care what her comments about Chris do to his career" to "she doesn't care if what she says is true"? How does that tweet indicate to you that she doesn't care if what she says is true?
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Jun 22, 2020, 23:44
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GothicWizard wrote on Jun 22, 2020, 23:40:
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Jun 22, 2020, 22:14:
Ugh, yet another semi-famous person with no self control, apparently. Browsing a few of the alleged events, some seem like maybe excusable as the actions of two drunkards, others seem to be pretty obvious sexual assault. Hopefully this doesn't fuck up DL2.


Shaming, dismissing victims. Well done kid. I know I tried to, or did, take sexual advantage of you, but you were drinking, drunk so it's ok. For fucks sake what is wrong with you?

MoreLuckThanSkill used "apparently" and "seem." Really now, people need to stop translating words like "apparently," "seem," and "indicating" into factual claims. We're all making guesses and posting opinions, so I think it's inappropriate to ask "what is wrong with you?" Please put down the pitchforks.
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Jun 22, 2020, 23:43
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Icewind wrote on Jun 22, 2020, 23:30:
So we destroy a man's career over what some girl said in a twitter post. Sounds legit.

If you actually read all the replies several other girls posted their experience with Chris which go from highly inappropriate to creepy predator.

And even if it is just one girl you take her word for it and stop victim shaming.
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MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Jun 22, 2020, 22:14:
Ugh, yet another semi-famous person with no self control, apparently. Browsing a few of the alleged events, some seem like maybe excusable as the actions of two drunkards, others seem to be pretty obvious sexual assault. Hopefully this doesn't fuck up DL2.


Shaming, dismissing victims. Well done kid. I know I tried to, or did, take sexual advantage of you, but you were drinking, drunk so it's ok. For fucks sake what is wrong with you?
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 Kxmode
 
Beamer wrote on Jun 22, 2020, 23:29:
Kxmode wrote on Jun 22, 2020, 23:05:
It's important to note she used her Twitter account with over 2K followers as a podium to make career-destroying claims with no evidence. She also retweeted this in the past few hours indicating she doesn't care if what she says is true.

How, precisely, do you interpret that tweet?
Because you're not doing it correctly

She didn't author the post but chose to retweet it indicates she doesn't care what her comments about Chris do to his career. That's how I see it. But sure, I guess someone could interpret it another way. Do realize I used "indicating" in my OP, meaning I am NOT claiming that's what she intended. It is only a guess.
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Jun 22, 2020, 23:30
 
So we destroy a man's career over what some girl said in a twitter post. Sounds legit.
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Kxmode wrote on Jun 22, 2020, 23:05:
It's important to note she used her Twitter account with over 2K followers as a podium to make career-destroying claims with no evidence. She also retweeted this in the past few hours indicating she doesn't care if what she says is true.

How, precisely, do you interpret that tweet?
Because you're not doing it correctly
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Jun 22, 2020, 23:23
 
Sad turn of events, no doubt.
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Jun 22, 2020, 23:22
 
Paradox Interactive saying that none of Avellone's work will be part of Vampire... Avellone was only "briefly" involved in the project, and that "none of his contributions remain in the game...

Shred all paper and DBAN all hard drives that contain his name, scrub his face from all company photos, and Daryl.... you'll have to burn the secret Santa gift you got last year cause it came from him. Help yourself to the Bloodlines swag closet though.
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Kxmode wrote on Jun 22, 2020, 23:05:
It's important to note she used her Twitter account with over 2K followers as a podium to make career-destroying claims with no evidence. She also retweeted this in the past few hours indicating she doesn't care if what she says is true.

How does that tweet indicate that she doesn't care if what she says is true?
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It's important to note she used her Twitter account with over 2K followers as a podium to make career-destroying claims with no evidence. She also retweeted this in the past few hours indicating she doesn't care if what she says is true.
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MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Jun 22, 2020, 22:14:
Hopefully this doesn't fuck up DL2.

Considering their initial plans to finish it in 2019, I would think any writing or world design would have been wrapped up a while ago. So unless they want to scrub everything he contributed and rewrite the whole damn thing, pushing the release date even farther beyond 'delayed indefinitely' (its status as of 5 months ago), it shouldn't make a difference.

jdreyer wrote on Jun 22, 2020, 21:40:
Hmm, can't see Samantha's tweet. Do I need to be logged in?

Looks like a 404 to me, it's gone.
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