Out of the Blue

Best of luck to the astronauts, SpaceX and NASA as they make another attempt at launching astronauts to the International Space Station today. The launch is expected at 3:22 pm EDT, and you can watch live coverage on NASA Television. There are concerns the weather could once again cause the mission to be scrubbed and pushed off until tomorrow. If it does go off, it will be the first launch of astronauts from American soil in almost a decade, and the first time in history that a private company will put astronauts into space.

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May 30, 2020, 14:26
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Re: Out of the Blue May 30, 2020, 14:26
May 30, 2020, 14:26
 
3:22 is peak time to build up thunderstorms. May the skies be with them.
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May 30, 2020, 14:36
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May 30, 2020, 14:36
 
"If it does go off, it will be the first launch of astronauts from American soil in almost a decade, and the first time in history that a private company will put astronauts into space."

Excepting of course the five astronauts who have flown in the past couple of years for Virgin Galactic. Since in their two flights they exceeded 50 miles in altitude, the FAA considers it a flight to space and therefore all participants earned their astronaut wings
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May 30, 2020, 14:48
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Re: Out of the Blue May 30, 2020, 14:48
May 30, 2020, 14:48
 
You say tomato, I say cracked pavement
(The 50-mile mark isn't universally accepted, however. For example, the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale, the ruling body on world air sports, puts the boundary at an altitude of 62 miles, or 100 km.)

But VSS Unity is a suborbital vehicle, so it did not circle our planet. No person has launched to Earth orbit from the United States since July 8, 2011, when the space shuttle Atlantis lifted off on the final mission of NASA's venerable shuttle program. Since then, American astronauts have relied completely on Russian Soyuz rockets and spacecraft, which launch from Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan, to get to and from the International Space Station (ISS).
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May 30, 2020, 14:52
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May 30, 2020, 14:52
 
RedEye9 wrote on May 30, 2020, 14:48:
You say tomato, I say cracked pavement
(The 50-mile mark isn't universally accepted, however. For example, the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale, the ruling body on world air sports, puts the boundary at an altitude of 62 miles, or 100 km.)

But VSS Unity is a suborbital vehicle, so it did not circle our planet. No person has launched to Earth orbit from the United States since July 8, 2011, when the space shuttle Atlantis lifted off on the final mission of NASA's venerable shuttle program. Since then, American astronauts have relied completely on Russian Soyuz rockets and spacecraft, which launch from Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan, to get to and from the International Space Station (ISS).

True about the FAI, but Unity did launch in the USA

And I'm all familiar with the last Shuttle launch, since I was at my station in the LCC (Launch Control Center) at Pad 39 for that launch, as I was for all of them going back to STS-1
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May 30, 2020, 15:15
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May 30, 2020, 15:15
 
JZ Temple wrote on May 30, 2020, 14:52:
RedEye9 wrote on May 30, 2020, 14:48:
You say tomato, I say cracked pavement
(The 50-mile mark isn't universally accepted, however. For example, the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale, the ruling body on world air sports, puts the boundary at an altitude of 62 miles, or 100 km.)

But VSS Unity is a suborbital vehicle, so it did not circle our planet. No person has launched to Earth orbit from the United States since July 8, 2011, when the space shuttle Atlantis lifted off on the final mission of NASA's venerable shuttle program. Since then, American astronauts have relied completely on Russian Soyuz rockets and spacecraft, which launch from Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan, to get to and from the International Space Station (ISS).

True about the FAI, but Unity did launch in the USA

And I'm all familiar with the last Shuttle launch, since I was at my station in the LCC (Launch Control Center) at Pad 39 for that launch, as I was for all of them going back to STS-1
Oh COOL

8 minutes till liftoff
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May 30, 2020, 15:56
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May 30, 2020, 15:56
 
I like the Boeing spacesuit much better than the SpaceX one.

Yeah, gonna call bullshit on that coffee claim from the "Institute for Scientific Information on Coffee". It's highly acidic which is the exact opposite of a good environment for probiotics.

Who wouldn't want a nuclear reactor panel?
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May 30, 2020, 16:02
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May 30, 2020, 16:02
 
Cutter wrote on May 30, 2020, 15:56:
I like the Boeing spacesuit much better than the SpaceX one.

Blue is a pretty poor color choice if there is an ascent or entry emergency and the astronauts end up in the water. White is better, but nothing beats International Orange.

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May 30, 2020, 16:06
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May 30, 2020, 16:06
 
Awesome achievement today.. as usual from SpaceX landing that thing in the wavy ocean is still one of the greatest achievements ever .. achieved.
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May 30, 2020, 16:51
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eRe4s3r wrote on May 30, 2020, 16:06:
Awesome achievement today.. as usual from SpaceX landing that thing in the wavy ocean is still one of the greatest achievements ever .. achieved.
Every time I watch one stick the landing I giggle like a little girl.
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May 30, 2020, 18:29
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May 30, 2020, 18:29
 
Cutter wrote on May 30, 2020, 15:56:
I like the Boeing spacesuit much better than the SpaceX one.

I'm curious why you like it better. I don't have an opinion one way or the other. Here are the SpaceX ones for comparison.
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May 30, 2020, 18:30
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May 30, 2020, 18:30
 
Congrats to astronauts Doug and Bob!

Wait, was it the launch by America or Canada??
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May 30, 2020, 18:32
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May 30, 2020, 18:32
 
The news cycle today is quintessentially American: celebrating an amazing technical achievement that inspires all of humankind while dozens of cities burn in race riots. Man, you could have pulled that headline from 1969.
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May 30, 2020, 18:58
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May 30, 2020, 18:58
 
jdreyer wrote on May 30, 2020, 18:29:
Cutter wrote on May 30, 2020, 15:56:
I like the Boeing spacesuit much better than the SpaceX one.

I'm curious why you like it better. I don't have an opinion one way or the other. Here are the SpaceX ones for comparison.

don't know about cutter's reasons, but with the spacex ones the neck doesn't articulate and the helmet is tight fitting, so to look around they have to turn their whole bodies. the helmets may look cool but functionally they're a failure.
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May 30, 2020, 19:08
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May 30, 2020, 19:08
 
I just think the SpaceX ones are goofy looking. And white is a poor choice. I do agree that blue is not the best color for a spacesuit but the Boeing suit looks tough and practical, color issue aside.
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May 30, 2020, 19:11
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May 30, 2020, 19:11
 
1badmf wrote on May 30, 2020, 18:58:
jdreyer wrote on May 30, 2020, 18:29:
Cutter wrote on May 30, 2020, 15:56:
I like the Boeing spacesuit much better than the SpaceX one.

I'm curious why you like it better. I don't have an opinion one way or the other. Here are the SpaceX ones for comparison.

don't know about cutter's reasons, but with the spacex ones the neck doesn't articulate and the helmet is tight fitting, so to look around they have to turn their whole bodies. the helmets may look cool but functionally they're a failure.

Yeah, but on the other hand would you pick anything made by Boeing where you life depended on it? ^^
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May 30, 2020, 19:38
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jdreyer wrote on May 30, 2020, 18:32:
The news cycle today is quintessentially American: celebrating an amazing technical achievement that inspires all of humankind while dozens of cities burn in race riots. Man, you could have pulled that headline from 1969.

That perfectly states what I was thinking as well. I am not old enough to have deja vu but I feel like we (as in the country) are re-enacting my history class or something.
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May 30, 2020, 20:31
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May 30, 2020, 20:31
 
The speech after was a bit weird, right? Endless praise for Trump for making this happen, much more than Elon Musk. I know NASA was involved, but wasn't it really more SpaceX?

Cool watch. Part of me is sad at privatizing space exploration, but at the same time, we did it well.
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May 30, 2020, 21:40
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May 30, 2020, 21:40
 
Beamer wrote on May 30, 2020, 20:31:
I know NASA was involved, but wasn't it really more SpaceX?

Cool watch. Part of me is sad at privatizing space exploration, but at the same time, we did it well.
A great read on today and some backstory.
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May 30, 2020, 21:50
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May 30, 2020, 21:50
 
eRe4s3r wrote on May 30, 2020, 19:11:
1badmf wrote on May 30, 2020, 18:58:
jdreyer wrote on May 30, 2020, 18:29:
Cutter wrote on May 30, 2020, 15:56:
I like the Boeing spacesuit much better than the SpaceX one.

I'm curious why you like it better. I don't have an opinion one way or the other. Here are the SpaceX ones for comparison.

don't know about cutter's reasons, but with the spacex ones the neck doesn't articulate and the helmet is tight fitting, so to look around they have to turn their whole bodies. the helmets may look cool but functionally they're a failure.

Yeah, but on the other hand would you pick anything made by Boeing where you life depended on it? ^^

The US Navy does every day. The F/A-18 E/F block 3 jets look amazing with some really cool modern tech like helmet target queuing, conformal fuel tanks, deployable decoys to fool missiles, a massive RCS reduction, avionics upgrades, LoS comm packages to network with F-35s, etc. It's really gen 4+++. It's a very capable aircraft that represents the low in the "high-low mix" the USN is going for. F-35C being the high.

Ditto for the new F-15.
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May 30, 2020, 22:16
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May 30, 2020, 22:16
 
jdreyer wrote on May 30, 2020, 21:50:
Ditto for the new F-15.
New F-15? Had not previously heard about that....
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