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Is this the same one that they rebooted during development because it got too far off track?

Never played SS1. Loved SS2.
Is SS1 worth it?

Wolfen wrote on May 27, 2020, 19:24:
Is this the same one that they rebooted during development because it got too far off track?

Yes. It's playing pretty well now.

HorrorScope wrote on May 27, 2020, 19:33:

Wolfen wrote on May 27, 2020, 19:24:
Is this the same one that they rebooted during development because it got too far off track?

Yes. It's playing pretty well now.

Hope they continue to stay on track then. Would love this to be successful. Shot's are looking nice.

ventry wrote on May 27, 2020, 19:33:
Never played SS1. Loved SS2.
Is SS1 worth it?

If you liked SS2 for it's world and story and open gameplay style then you would really like SS1 too. If I recall SS2 kind of narrowed down some of the mechanics in comparison to SS1.

Either way, I enjoyed both quite a lot.

Wolfen wrote on May 27, 2020, 19:24:
Is this the same one that they rebooted during development because it got too far off track?

Yeah, they crowdfunded... started developing... their re-imagining went beyond what was pitched in the crowdfunding and wasn't staying true to the original game as promised... then they started over.

That was the right thing to do, but they have made other major PR blunders such as their kickstarter updates are pretty much nothing but concept art, and the demo they released several months ago (I imagine this announcement is a slightly more polished version of the same demo) was only for Steam, which pissed off a lot of us backers, myself included.

Wolfen wrote on May 27, 2020, 19:36:

ventry wrote on May 27, 2020, 19:33:
Never played SS1. Loved SS2.
Is SS1 worth it?

If you liked SS2 for it's world and story and open gameplay style then you would really like SS1 too. If I recall SS2 kind of narrowed down some of the mechanics in comparison to SS1.

Either way, I enjoyed both quite a lot.

Eh? I think SS2 had a ton of mechanics added on. Stats, skills, inventory Tetris, psychic powers, weapons degradation, credits, research, character creation. SS1 had cyberspace and rather more cyberware to play with. I liked SS1 a lot better, but not because it had more mechanics going on.

I'm kind of sad they pulled back on the remake's scope. I played through the previous version of the demo (I think backers only?); it was nostalgic, but I don't see playing through the full game more than once. What they wanted to expand into was more like what happened with the Resident Evil 2 Remake, and I thought that was great. Probably similar to the Final Fantasy 7 remake, too. Oh well.

I still remember the demo from the first time round. It came on one of those revolutionary CD-ROM thingies.

You are making it sound like you enjoyed the inventory Tetris! Easily the worst part of that game.

MattyC wrote on May 27, 2020, 20:28:
You are making it sound like you enjoyed the inventory Tetris! Easily the worst part of that game.

No, I also thought it was the worst part. I didn't like most of the mechanics introduced in SS2. But there were a lot of them.

Orogogus wrote on May 27, 2020, 20:43:

MattyC wrote on May 27, 2020, 20:28:
You are making it sound like you enjoyed the inventory Tetris! Easily the worst part of that game.

No, I also thought it was the worst part. I didn't like most of the mechanics introduced in SS2. But there were a lot of them.

I solved the inventory issue by dropping everything that wouldn't fit in the elevator, so it was always within reach.

Hmm... I'm concerned that I see a post saying the same slow down that occurs after playing for a certain length of time still occurs in this, just as it did back in the 2017 demo.

EDIT: Download finished... says it's Unreal... that's extremely odd that it would have the same slowdown issues as when it was on Unity. Guess I'll have to play with it this weekend to see for myself.

Same camp of never having played SS1 so this should be interesting. It certainly has a unique look about it. My question is if the enemies in SS1 are anything like those in SS2 who were absolutely terrifying when they talked or if they're the strong silent type.

Orogogus wrote on May 27, 2020, 20:18:
it was nostalgic, but I don't see playing through the full game more than once.

Thanks to you and Wolfen for the feedback.
I loved SS2 and played it through 4 times over the years. Just loved the err.... atmosphere so, I am curious as to why you consider SS1 worthy of just 1 play through? Or are you just referring to the remake?

Also does the remake have mouse look?

ventry wrote on May 27, 2020, 22:19:

Orogogus wrote on May 27, 2020, 20:18:
it was nostalgic, but I don't see playing through the full game more than once.

Thanks to you and Wolfen for the feedback.
I loved SS2 and played it through 4 times over the years. Just loved the err.... atmosphere so, I am curious as to why you consider SS1 worthy of just 1 play through? Or are you just referring to the remake?

Also does the remake have mouse look?

Mouse look? You mean the ability to look all the way around in a 360 sphre around you with the mouse, then yes.

ventry wrote on May 27, 2020, 22:19:

Orogogus wrote on May 27, 2020, 20:18:
it was nostalgic, but I don't see playing through the full game more than once.

Thanks to you and Wolfen for the feedback.
I loved SS2 and played it through 4 times over the years. Just loved the err.... atmosphere so, I am curious as to why you consider SS1 worthy of just 1 play through? Or are you just referring to the remake?

Also does the remake have mouse look?

Yes, the remake has mouse look. It's not that tied to the original design.

For replay, I was just referring to the remake. I already replayed the original several times over back in the day. But now I have a ton of games waiting to be played, and it seems wasteful to go through this over and over again if nostalgia's the only thing going for it. SS2 does have different builds going for it, this not so much.

Sound design wasn't as much of a thing in 1994, and there was a lot more atmospheric noise in the demo than the original game, but even so SS1 was much less a horror game than SS2, and more in the direction of shootiness. It's not DOOM by any means, but there's way less survival horror going on. It's very exploration-heavy, though, which I liked.

If you've played Bioshock, I think it's much more similar to this than to SS2, although the maps in SS2 are much, much bigger (again, a lot of exploration).

Loving the system requirements, as listed on GOG...

Wallshadows wrote on May 27, 2020, 22:13:
Same camp of never having played SS1 so this should be interesting. It certainly has a unique look about it. My question is if the enemies in SS1 are anything like those in SS2 who were absolutely terrifying when they talked or if they're the strong silent type.

First time I started playing SS2, I start roaming around the ship, super quiet, nothing going on. Just some machinery going, computers chirping, etc. Started listening to an audio log, then right behind me, " I'M SORRY!". Turned around to see this psycho attacking me.
Nearly fell out of my damn chair

Wallshadows wrote on May 27, 2020, 22:13:
Same camp of never having played SS1 so this should be interesting. It certainly has a unique look about it. My question is if the enemies in SS1 are anything like those in SS2 who were absolutely terrifying when they talked or if they're the strong silent type.

Ditto. Loved SS2, never played the original. Looking fwd to this.

Also, who still makes SP games???