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Verno wrote on May 21, 2020, 22:39:Thanks Vern. Yeah, just making sure you're not vitamin D insufficient is where the studies were showing strong correlation. Which you should be doing anyway to prevent things like depression and osteoporosis. And it doesn't even require supplements: just get 15m of sun three days per week (a bit more if you have dark skin). Here's a good article.
Those articles are about high doses of Vitamin D which is not what jdreyer was talking about. He didn't make any claims about cures (you don't cure a virus) or that people should be doing anything other than getting their recommended daily amounts. Certain age groups and minorities are challenged in this regard, especially with shelter in place orders and there are some studies showing a correlation to various COVID-19 outcomes (your own link even mentions it). People should not run out and pop a bunch of supplements to prevent getting the virus. But it's interesting data that should be explored further, we know so little about the virus.
Burrito of Peace wrote on May 21, 2020, 18:53:A local motel and its co-joined restaurant have posted the cure and prevention on their establishments doors.
Thanks for the heads up, Frans and Blue. If I continue to see more wierdness, I will let you know.
Vitamin D* now eh?
Is collodial silver just around the bend for the next magic bullet cureall?
*At no point am I saying having a sufficient amount of vitamin D is a bad thing.
RedEye9 wrote on May 21, 2020, 16:48:1) Yup, I qualified it.jdreyer wrote on May 21, 2020, 15:33:Gonna give you 3 strikes on that.
Apparently, having low vitamin D is a very large risk factor for having a bad COVID-19 outcome.
1. This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed...
2. Joe Rogan on youtub
3. 20 people.
Other than that it's da bomb Diddy.
Background/Aims: WHO declared SARS-Cov-2 a global pandemic. The aims of this paper are to assess if there is any association between mean levels of vitamin D in various countries and cases respectively mortality caused by COVID-19.Again, getting the right amount of vitamin D is something everyone should be doing already for health and longevity. There are no downsides to this, and the upsides seem pretty well correlated.
Methods: We have identified the mean levels of vitamin D for 20 Europeans Countries for which we have also got the data regarding the morbidity and mortality caused by COVID-19.
Results: The mean level of vitamin D (average 56mmol/L, STDEV 10.61) in each country was strongly associated with the number of cases/1M (mean 295.95, STDEV 298.73 p=0.004, respectively with the mortality/1M (mean 5.96, STDEV 15.13, p < 0.00001).
Discussion: Vitamin D levels are severely low in the aging population especially in Spain, Italy and Switzerland. This is also the most vulnerable group of population for COVID-19.
Conclusions: We believe, that we can advise Vitamin D supplementation to protect against SARS-CoV2 infection.
jdreyer wrote on May 21, 2020, 15:33:Gonna give you 3 strikes on that.
Apparently, having low vitamin D is a very large risk factor for having a bad COVID-19 outcome.
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on May 21, 2020, 16:06:Yup, we won't hear about it. The news will be full of all the things happening in Trump's second term.jdreyer wrote on May 21, 2020, 15:33:
Apparently, having low vitamin D is a very large risk factor for having a bad COVID-19 outcome. Here's one study for example:Results: Twenty COVID-19 patients with serum 25OHD levels were identified; 65.0% required ICU admission.The VDI (vitamin D insufficiency) prevalence in ICU patients was 84.6%, vs. 57.1% in floor patients. Strikingly, 100% of ICU patients less than 75 years old had VDI. Coagulopathy was present in 62.5% of ICU COVID-19 patients, and 92.3% were lymphocytopenic. Conclusions: VDI is highly prevalent in severe COVID-19 patients. VDI and severe COVID-19 share numerous associations including hypertension, obesity, male sex, advanced age, concentration in northern climates, coagulopathy, and immune dysfunction. Thus, we suggest that prospective, randomized controlled studies of VDI in COVID-19 patients are warranted.Get 15m of sun per day, or take a supplement. Vitamin D has lots of other health benefits, and there's almost no risk to supplementing the recommended amount.
The vitamin D deficiency / COVID-19 potential link is interesting, but keep in mind it's real, REAL early to be saying anything definitive about that. At this point, it's still a correlation vs causation question. At least the study you quoted is just saying that further studies are warranted.
Although people raiding stores for vitamin D pills is not nearly as bad as people buying up all the hydroxychloroquinine so Lupus patients can't get it.
It'll be interesting in 3-5 years when we get some real studies done about COVID-19. Hopefully it won't be completely buried in the news by then.
Cutter wrote on May 21, 2020, 16:14:
Dairy. Milk and cheese. A healthy, tasty way to get all the D you ever need. That's what sustained our ancestors who didn't evolve in the sunbelt.
Cutter wrote on May 21, 2020, 16:14:WRONGjdreyer wrote on May 21, 2020, 15:33:
Apparently, having low vitamin D is a very large risk factor for having a bad COVID-19 outcome. Here's one study for example:Results: Twenty COVID-19 patients with serum 25OHD levels were identified; 65.0% required ICU admission.The VDI (vitamin D insufficiency) prevalence in ICU patients was 84.6%, vs. 57.1% in floor patients. Strikingly, 100% of ICU patients less than 75 years old had VDI. Coagulopathy was present in 62.5% of ICU COVID-19 patients, and 92.3% were lymphocytopenic. Conclusions: VDI is highly prevalent in severe COVID-19 patients. VDI and severe COVID-19 share numerous associations including hypertension, obesity, male sex, advanced age, concentration in northern climates, coagulopathy, and immune dysfunction. Thus, we suggest that prospective, randomized controlled studies of VDI in COVID-19 patients are warranted.
Get 15m of sun per day, or take a supplement. Vitamin D has lots of other health benefits, and there's almost no risk to supplementing the recommended amount.
Dairy. Milk and cheese. A healthy, tasty way to get all the D you ever need. That's what sustained our ancestors who didn't evolve in the sunbelt.
jdreyer wrote on May 21, 2020, 15:33:
Apparently, having low vitamin D is a very large risk factor for having a bad COVID-19 outcome. Here's one study for example:Results: Twenty COVID-19 patients with serum 25OHD levels were identified; 65.0% required ICU admission.The VDI (vitamin D insufficiency) prevalence in ICU patients was 84.6%, vs. 57.1% in floor patients. Strikingly, 100% of ICU patients less than 75 years old had VDI. Coagulopathy was present in 62.5% of ICU COVID-19 patients, and 92.3% were lymphocytopenic. Conclusions: VDI is highly prevalent in severe COVID-19 patients. VDI and severe COVID-19 share numerous associations including hypertension, obesity, male sex, advanced age, concentration in northern climates, coagulopathy, and immune dysfunction. Thus, we suggest that prospective, randomized controlled studies of VDI in COVID-19 patients are warranted.
Get 15m of sun per day, or take a supplement. Vitamin D has lots of other health benefits, and there's almost no risk to supplementing the recommended amount.
jdreyer wrote on May 21, 2020, 15:33:
Apparently, having low vitamin D is a very large risk factor for having a bad COVID-19 outcome. Here's one study for example:Results: Twenty COVID-19 patients with serum 25OHD levels were identified; 65.0% required ICU admission.The VDI (vitamin D insufficiency) prevalence in ICU patients was 84.6%, vs. 57.1% in floor patients. Strikingly, 100% of ICU patients less than 75 years old had VDI. Coagulopathy was present in 62.5% of ICU COVID-19 patients, and 92.3% were lymphocytopenic. Conclusions: VDI is highly prevalent in severe COVID-19 patients. VDI and severe COVID-19 share numerous associations including hypertension, obesity, male sex, advanced age, concentration in northern climates, coagulopathy, and immune dysfunction. Thus, we suggest that prospective, randomized controlled studies of VDI in COVID-19 patients are warranted.Get 15m of sun per day, or take a supplement. Vitamin D has lots of other health benefits, and there's almost no risk to supplementing the recommended amount.
Results: Twenty COVID-19 patients with serum 25OHD levels were identified; 65.0% required ICU admission.The VDI (vitamin D insufficiency) prevalence in ICU patients was 84.6%, vs. 57.1% in floor patients. Strikingly, 100% of ICU patients less than 75 years old had VDI. Coagulopathy was present in 62.5% of ICU COVID-19 patients, and 92.3% were lymphocytopenic. Conclusions: VDI is highly prevalent in severe COVID-19 patients. VDI and severe COVID-19 share numerous associations including hypertension, obesity, male sex, advanced age, concentration in northern climates, coagulopathy, and immune dysfunction. Thus, we suggest that prospective, randomized controlled studies of VDI in COVID-19 patients are warranted.Get 15m of sun per day, or take a supplement. Vitamin D has lots of other health benefits, and there's almost no risk to supplementing the recommended amount.
Burrito of Peace wrote on May 21, 2020, 11:56:With last week's forums deployment, the UTF8 conversion on Monday, and rebuilding two fulltext indexes today came some down time indeed. But there shouldn't be (have been) a problem on other mornings.
Every morning, early in the morning CST, BN becomes inaccessible and web queries report it as down. This happens on multiple devices connected to different networks.
RedEye9 wrote on May 21, 2020, 12:17:Burrito of Peace wrote on May 21, 2020, 11:56:You Linux nuts wake up too early.
Another thing for Frans:
Every morning, early in the morning CST, BN becomes inaccessible and web queries report it as down. This happens on multiple devices connected to different networks.
I guess it is Fran's still tweaking the magic sauce and it will stop happening once he's satisfied.
Blue, you care to weigh in.
Burrito of Peace wrote on May 21, 2020, 11:56:You Linux nuts wake up too early.
Another thing for Frans:
Every morning, early in the morning CST, BN becomes inaccessible and web queries report it as down. This happens on multiple devices connected to different networks.