Out of the Blue

How's your social distancing going? We're hanging in there in the BlueTower, though I worry about MrsBlue's nerves getting frayed from being around me too much, especially since the lockdown ended her work assignment. I've been working remotely for years, and being a natural introvert, I am more suited to it than many. The bigger impact on me came before all this went down, as I've been nursing soreness in my right arm, so I am still trying to limit my gaming. The good news is this is helping, so I'm hopeful the measures I'm taking are preventing this from blossoming into a real debilitating repetitive strain injury. Of course a sore arm is just one of the countless maladies that are preferable to a potentially deadly virus, so world events are helping keep this in perspective. Here's hoping you all are finding ways to remain healthy and sane.

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Apr 2, 2020, 07:35
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NKD wrote on Apr 1, 2020, 01:29:
Who knew that letting thousands of people die was the key to increasing your approval rating?

Was listening to Nate Silver today. He mentioned that Trump's bump is pretty minor relative to other world leaders, and he doesn't expect it to sustain. The example he gave was how political parties always get a bump after their conventions, usually 6 points or so. So a bump of two points, while in a positive direction, is actually indicative of a problem.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Apr 1, 2020, 01:29
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Who knew that letting thousands of people die was the key to increasing your approval rating?
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Mar 31, 2020, 23:01
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Re: Out of the Blue Mar 31, 2020, 23:01
Mar 31, 2020, 23:01
 
1badmf wrote on Mar 31, 2020, 21:53:
BoP, how long was the wait to get into the store?

I got there before they opened but once they opened the door? 15-20 minutes.
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Mar 31, 2020, 21:53
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BoP, how long was the wait to get into the store? i have a theory that strict traffic management actually increases efficiency of movement. i bet that store did better business, and in a more orderly fashion, than most of their high traffic normal days.
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Mar 31, 2020, 20:49
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Mr. Tact wrote on Mar 31, 2020, 20:42:
Orogogus wrote on Mar 31, 2020, 19:21:
RedEye9 wrote on Mar 31, 2020, 18:02:
What kind of person calls 100,000-plus dead a ‘very good job’?
By comparison, about 3,000 people died in the Sept. 11 attacks and about 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam.
There's a benchmark. 12.5K deaths = a full scale disaster. So we'll see.
Should have figured something like that was around...
The zombie misinformation campaign is in full swing. Public Health Emergency Fact Check under President Obama concerning the Swine Flu.
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Mar 31, 2020, 20:42
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Mar 31, 2020, 20:42
 
Orogogus wrote on Mar 31, 2020, 19:21:
RedEye9 wrote on Mar 31, 2020, 18:02:
What kind of person calls 100,000-plus dead a ‘very good job’?
By comparison, about 3,000 people died in the Sept. 11 attacks and about 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam.
There's a benchmark. 12.5K deaths = a full scale disaster. So we'll see.
Should have figured something like that was around...
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies." -- Groucho Marx
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RedEye9 wrote on Mar 31, 2020, 18:02:
What kind of person calls 100,000-plus dead a ‘very good job’?
By comparison, about 3,000 people died in the Sept. 11 attacks and about 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam.
There's a benchmark. 12.5K deaths = a full scale disaster. So we'll see.
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Mar 31, 2020, 19:21
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The largest county in tx just issued a one week stay at home. No known cases in the county.
One week. Gonna have to stretch out my 3 cans of soup.
https://www.facebook.com/brewstercountytx/
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Mar 31, 2020, 18:45
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Mar 31, 2020, 18:13
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RedEye9 wrote on Mar 31, 2020, 18:02:
Burrito of Peace wrote on Mar 31, 2020, 17:52:
Mr. Tact wrote on Mar 31, 2020, 16:35:
Since we have the most cases can we start calling it the United States virus?

I think it would be more apt to call it the "Trump Virus" since he decided it wasn't worth bothering with and called it a "Democratic hoax", then downplaying the seriousness of it, and when shit really hit the fan, he only cared more about giving his already wealthy friends more free billions, fucking over the average tax payer who is furloughed/unemployed, and now the only thing he talks about more than himself is the economy instead of taking every effort to save human lives.

What kind of person calls 100,000-plus dead a ‘very good job’?
By comparison, about 3,000 people died in the Sept. 11 attacks and about 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam.

A narcissistic sociopath.
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Burrito of Peace wrote on Mar 31, 2020, 17:52:
Mr. Tact wrote on Mar 31, 2020, 16:35:
Since we have the most cases can we start calling it the United States virus?

I think it would be more apt to call it the "Trump Virus" since he decided it wasn't worth bothering with and called it a "Democratic hoax", then downplaying the seriousness of it, and when shit really hit the fan, he only cared more about giving his already wealthy friends more free billions, fucking over the average tax payer who is furloughed/unemployed, and now the only thing he talks about more than himself is the economy instead of taking every effort to save human lives.

What kind of person calls 100,000-plus dead a ‘very good job’?
By comparison, about 3,000 people died in the Sept. 11 attacks and about 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam.
“The time has come for us to move beyond seeing public health as the ax in the display case, where the sign says IN CASE OF EMERGENCY, BREAK GLASS.”
Pandemics don’t end because the economy is suffering and we want them to.
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Mr. Tact wrote on Mar 31, 2020, 16:35:
Since we have the most cases can we start calling it the United States virus?

I think it would be more apt to call it the "Trump Virus" since he decided it wasn't worth bothering with and called it a "Democratic hoax", then downplaying the seriousness of it, and when shit really hit the fan, he only cared more about giving his already wealthy friends more free billions, fucking over the average tax payer who is furloughed/unemployed, and now the only thing he talks about more than himself is the economy instead of taking every effort to save human lives.

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Since we have the most cases can we start calling it the United States virus?
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies." -- Groucho Marx
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Mar 31, 2020, 16:14
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Mar 31, 2020, 16:14
 
Kxmode wrote on Mar 31, 2020, 16:00:
Several days ago I posted this comment on a Youtube video:

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China has the world's largest population, with Wuhan province alone having a population almost as significant as Italy (Wuhan's 58.5M versus Italy's 60.5M). Further, China put in place draconian quarantines for Wuhan so that nobody could leave, but that was weeks AFTER the outbreak (as very evident in its spread around the globe). Because Wuhan was ground zero for the virus and there were no hindrances by the Chinese government (e.g., suppressing warnings), the Wuhan people went about their business as usual. They unknowingly spread the virus much faster at its point of origin. The issue here is there's no way the total confirmed cases are 82,122. It's much higher than that. China has chosen not to be truthful with the rest of the world since the outbreak began. The math on the virus spread shows the total population infection to be approximately 1.2% based on 3.99% verified and of those 1.2% dying.

58,500,000 Wuhan's total population

The number China hasn't reported:
~6,843,500 total unverified infected (roughly 1.2%; best guess estimate based on tapering projections)

The numbers China reported:
~82,122 total verified infected (roughly 3.99%)
3,304 total confirmed deaths (1.2%)

That 6.8 million is now traveling around China since lifting the restrictions. As long as international travel remains shutdown, China's second wave of infections should stay contained in China. Also, without international travel, the Chinese government cannot blame foreign powers for their second wave.

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Several Asian countries, including China, see a potential second wave of infections. The cause comes from untested infected people now being allowed to infect individuals after China dropped its Wuhan quarantine.
I guess it remains to be seen. China initially discounted the outbreak and came down hard on the doctors trying to report it, in typical authoritarian style. Once they recognized it as a threat, they were able to contain it using draconian methods.

My sense is that the CCP views Coronavirus as a threat to their existence, thus the harsh measures. While I doubt their numbers are accurate (deaths and early infections missed in the initial chaos, intentional obfuscation later), I don't think they are off by an order of magnitude or two. It's too easy to get info out of China these days, and we would have heard.

The point is that the Chinese government will do what it must to prevent a second wave, regardless of cost. For them it's existential. They're not idiots, so I am sure they're on top of it. I'm more concerned with the US, and our heterogeneous response.
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Things that make you go "Hmmm..." Watching DS9 rebroadcasts on BBC America. They just had on the "Past Tense" episode where while visiting Earth -- Cisco, Bashir, and Dax are accicentally beamed into the past, to.... 2024. Where economic upheaval has caused the creation of "Sanctuary" districts in all the major cities. Portions of the cities are cordoned off to hold people without jobs or places to live...
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Mar 31, 2020, 15:38
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What I miss is going for a beer. Really felt like popping down to my local the other day for a beer or two, shoot the shit with the regulars. You can only drink alone, listening to George Thorogoods I Drink Alone so much.
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RedEye9 wrote on Mar 31, 2020, 12:02:
eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 31, 2020, 10:30:
I had to go shopping today for first time in 3 weeks.. and it was not fun ;( No entry limits to the store meant around 700 people tried to play the lava and the other player is hot.. with carts full of shit. I don't see how we are stopping the virus this way. Mind you nobody was coughing openly or anything.. but still.. that was CHOAS
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eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 31, 2020, 10:30:
I had to go shopping today for first time in 3 weeks.. and it was not fun ;( No entry limits to the store meant around 700 people tried to play the lava and the other player is hot.. with carts full of shit. I don't see how we are stopping the virus this way. Mind you nobody was coughing openly or anything.. but still.. that was CHOAS

Most of the stores here were limiting entrants *before* our lockdown hit. If you're not going to enforce delivery only, the next best thing is to limit foot traffic. Even the lines to get in were 2M spaced.
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