theglaze wrote on Mar 11, 2020, 23:18:

Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Mar 11, 2020, 20:35:
You've misunderstood the problem. The underlying deadliness, or lack thereof, of COVID-19 isn't the problem; the problem is COVID-19s capacity to overwhelm the health care system causing otherwise preventable deaths at large scale...

Great points. Thank you for sharing.

These coming weeks/months will erode the ignorance from the misinformed.

Do you see this guy from a couple days ago, Rudy Gobert? A millionaire basketball player making fun of the situation.

Well today he tested positive. The NBA season has been suspended.

It's amazing the number of famous people and top politicians that are getting infected.

Nullity wrote on Mar 11, 2020, 14:20:

jdreyer wrote on Mar 11, 2020, 13:37:

Cram wrote on Mar 11, 2020, 12:20:
I'm blown away Linus is going ahead, for now, with LTX 2020, ballsy. These game, technology and entertainment expos - rife with some that could not give a second thought to personal hygiene.

In his defense, Linux is pretty immune to viruses, what with hackers focusing mostly on Windows exploits.

*claps*

Same with Apple. [grin]

Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Mar 11, 2020, 20:35:
You've misunderstood the problem. The underlying deadliness, or lack thereof, of COVID-19 isn't the problem; the problem is COVID-19s capacity to overwhelm the health care system causing otherwise preventable deaths at large scale...

Great points. Thank you for sharing.

These coming weeks/months will erode the ignorance from the misinformed.

Do you see this guy from a couple days ago, Rudy Gobert? A millionaire basketball player making fun of the situation.

Well today he tested positive. The NBA season has been suspended.

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Meh we weren't gonna go anyway -Sony

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The best move was to cancel E3 as attendance was going to be pretty bad due to virus fears and the optics wouldn't be great for a conference that many have declared to be on its way out of relevance. I think E3 will be around for a long time as long as it is able to adapt with the times.

As far as virus fears, I'm not changing a thing, and considering how busy the DMV center I went to this week was, neither are a lot of people. I am not one of those calling it a hoax, but I don't believe the 3.4% death rate to be accurate. I've read advice from officials where I live to not go to the doctor for flu-like symptoms "unless they are life-threatening". Anyone with a mild case will never know they had it. It seems that it is only the most severe cases of it that are getting detected. Naturally the most severe cases are the most likely to lead to death. I've never gone to the doctor in the few times I have had the flu (though I came close once) , and unless I come down with something severe that won't change. I can't imagine that I'm the only one.

wtf_man wrote on Mar 11, 2020, 19:55:

crazedgironemo wrote on Mar 11, 2020, 19:22:
Yeah, I mean, the flu kills 0.1% whereas the coronavirus kills up to 3.4%. Definitely not as bad as the common flu. We should have just let the coronavirus spread unchecked and it would mean only 11 million of USA's 327 million population will die of it.

Being a gear head... if it's the tree-huggin vegan prius-driving smug-tards... I'm ok with that number! Heck! They can take their Holistic medicine!

j/k

I think being prepared taking some precautions is one thing... over-hyping and claiming the sky is falling, is another.

Coronavirus kills the old, the poor, and the indigent. In other words, it's a government plot to make Medicare and Medicaid solvent.

Scottish Martial Arts, excellent, man.

The sad thing is that a majority of the people don't have the mental acuity to find for themselves, extrapolate or really understand this critical information.

Cutter wrote on Mar 11, 2020, 15:59:

And? It's still just a fucking flu virus at the end of the day. Odds are it's not even as bad as the common strains. Lots of people, way more in fact, have those common strains right now and yet no one is losing their shit over that or even remembering it exists. People are so fucked in head.

You've misunderstood the problem. The underlying deadliness, or lack thereof, of COVID-19 isn't the problem; the problem is COVID-19s capacity to overwhelm the health care system causing otherwise preventable deaths at large scale.

Health care is a finite resource: there are only so many hospital beds, doctors, nurses, medical laboratories, doses of medication, etc. Most of the resources that make up a health care system are also extremely expensive, especially so in the United States. As a consequence, health care systems tend to have enough resources to deal with the average demands with some amount of excess demand. As you may have noticed, we're still in flu/pneumonia season, which itself consumes the lion's share of the health care system's resources each year. If you layer on a large outbreak of corona virus, the resulting influx of patients will overwhelm the system's ability to cope.

Medicine developed something called triage during WWI. In a situation where you have more patients than ability to care for them, you divide them into three categories: those that will die no matter what care they receive, those that will live no matter what care they receive, and those that will live if they receive care but will die or be severely disabled or maimed if they do not receive care. Then, in that resource constrained medical system, only the last group of patients receive care, in order of urgency. The danger of corona virus isn't the illness it induces, but in its capacity to so starve the health care system of resources that patients in that third category can't get care before it's too late. That's when large numbers of preventable deaths start happening; not because corona virus itself killed them, but because corona virus prevented them from getting the care they needed.

Which is why we all need to avoid getting sick right, and if we do get sick not go to public places: we must not be a vector for the medical system running out of resources.

crazedgironemo wrote on Mar 11, 2020, 19:22:

Cutter wrote on Mar 11, 2020, 15:59:
And? It's still just a fucking flu virus at the end of the day. Odds are it's not even as bad as the common strains. Lots of people, way more in fact, have those common strains right now and yet no one is losing their shit over that or even remembering it exists. People are so fucked in head.

Yeah, I mean, the flu kills 0.1% whereas the coronavirus kills up to 3.4%. Definitely not as bad as the common flu. We should have just let the coronavirus spread unchecked and it would mean only 11 million of USA's 327 million population will die of it.

People are so fucked in head.

I see that you are new here. Welcome.

As for the person you quoted, In general we try to ignore "it".

Have a nice stay, the waters fine.

crazedgironemo wrote on Mar 11, 2020, 19:22:
Yeah, I mean, the flu kills 0.1% whereas the coronavirus kills up to 3.4%. Definitely not as bad as the common flu. We should have just let the coronavirus spread unchecked and it would mean only 11 million of USA's 327 million population will die of it.

Being a gear head... if it's the tree-huggin vegan prius-driving smug-tards... I'm ok with that number! Heck! They can take their Holistic medicine!

j/k

I think being prepared taking some precautions is one thing... over-hyping and claiming the sky is falling, is another.

Cutter wrote on Mar 11, 2020, 15:59:
And? It's still just a fucking flu virus at the end of the day. Odds are it's not even as bad as the common strains. Lots of people, way more in fact, have those common strains right now and yet no one is losing their shit over that or even remembering it exists. People are so fucked in head.

Yeah, I mean, the flu kills 0.1% whereas the coronavirus kills up to 3.4%. Definitely not as bad as the common flu. We should have just let the coronavirus spread unchecked and it would mean only 11 million of USA's 327 million population will die of it.

People are so fucked in head.

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theglaze wrote on Mar 11, 2020, 14:01:
WHO just announced COVID-19 as a pandemic

damnit
I step away from the intarweb for one minute and this is what I missed.

Sooooo, what’s gonna change now that it has a different label?
If you answered “fuckall”, you win.

Kxmode wrote on Mar 11, 2020, 16:22:

Beamer wrote on Mar 11, 2020, 16:08:
1) By now, dozens of conferences have been canceled, none due to convenient timing to shut down

2) E3 had one of its largest years every last year

3) Microsoft, among others, is still planning to do announcements during the scheduled time, meaning they were fully bought in on E3

4) E3 had a public component, but was predominantly a trade show. I think many people here miss that. It was used as a stage for large announcements, but the bulk of its activity was industry stuff, not announcements. That's why companies spend so much money sending employees there. The public facing stuff was the icing, not the cake.

However, I fully agree with your second post - some people truly are fucked in the head. They never seem to notice, though...

1) Yes. However, COVID-19 was the primary reason many canceled and not because of any sudden or planned losses of supporters and attendees.

2) True, but only because they started focusing on consumers over the past twelve years, and recently, on celebrities and influencers to reach an even larger audience. Fundamentally they've changed. They went too far from their roots as an industry trade show.

3) Microsoft wasn't going to be at E3 this year. They planned on renting space next to E3 to run parallel to the event. Obviously, with their satellite presence to E3, it wouldn't have been hard for E3 attendees to visit their locale.

4) Yes. However, E3 became increasingly consumer-friendly over the past decade.

Per #1, are you claiming that this is what E3 did, based upon your intuition?

You often make claims based upon your intuition, that you beat across people as fact, then retreat to "just my opinion." There needs to be evidence, and you can't keep repeating it as if it's fact when you think it's your opinion.

I know, I hate when people say "that's just your opinion," but perhaps you are uncertain that you have a habit of really making it seem as if your opinion is fact. This isn't "Grand Theft Auto 5 is a terrible game" but "this was a business decision based upon XYZ." Probably because you have a habit of doubling down, occasionally tripling down, on things based upon what you feel probably happened, rather than anything with true evidence. You never say "well, this is what I think happened, but yeah, you never know."

Cutter wrote on Mar 11, 2020, 15:59:
People are so fucked in head.

Men In Black Quote:

K: A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.

The truth... from Hollywood... in 1997. Oh the Irony!

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Can't they just do it all online? I mean most of the world watches e3 through a bunch of online sources anyway.