System Shock 3 Layoffs Lead to Fears for the Project [Feb 07, 2020, 6:56 pm ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
A
report on GameWatcher reveals concerns about the future of System Shock 3,
the planned new installment in the action/RPG series in the works at Otherside
Entertainment (thanks Acleacius). This is not to be confused with The System
Shock Remaster in development at Nightdive Studios. This all traces back to
a
post on ResetEra from December reporting layoffs at Otherside. These were
confirmed in a post on the
OtherSide Forums where a former System Shock 3 Community Manager expresses
their own hopes that this doesn't mean the project is in trouble. Word is this
all stems from the financial problems
at Starbreeze that means
the game is looking for a new publisher. They also note
a thread on the rpgcodex forums where some users questioned Warren Spector's
leadership of the project, but the famed designer is defended by another former
employee OtherSide Austin employee, who further discusses problems with the
project. Here's the latest on this from a week ago:
Forwarding to last Friday, the same former employee revealed that while the core systems of System Shock 3 were done, OtherSide Austin was "critically behind" in content development, following by saying that "everyone on the content side is no longer with the studio."
They added that, had Starbreeze not pulled their support as System Shock 3 publisher, the developer "would've delivered something interesting with some fresh and innovative gameplay, but a much smaller game than what people were expecting and inevitably disappointing for a sequel to such a beloved franchise."
Lastly, when another user asked if System Shock 3 was abandoned, they responded with the following: "I don't actually know what's going on, but the team is no longer employed there."
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Re: System Shock 3 Layoffs Lead to Fears for the Project
Feb 8, 2020, 12:42
Feb 8, 2020, 12:42
I looked up Otherside and it is run by the same people who ran Looking Glass into the ground, so no surprise.
Prez wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 19:30:Ha, I do the same thing. I see System Shock and conflate it all together. I'm not feeling a lot of hope for the remake, either, but it's still chugging along and giving updates, so maybe...
EDIT: Wait - it looks like I'm talking about the remaster, not SS3.
Didn't Arkane Studios already published SS3? Only the called it "Prey" to get the FPS fans on board which resulted in it being a flop...
Doesn't Night Dive technically own the rights? If Otherside goes belly up, I guess they could find someone else?
Is the baby going to be born?
Well, the doctors are gone and the mother is dead...
So, there’s still hope??
Nope.
Well, the doctors are gone and the mother is dead...
So, there’s still hope??
Nope.
KilrathiAce wrote on Feb 8, 2020, 01:36:Na, he's busy being VERY silent after the Crytek-GIC lawsuit dissolved into nothing.
Maybe Derek Smart wants to take over?
MyRealName wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 20:57:
If I had my wish, they'd abandon it altogether until they can secure a team that has the skill to do it right (which this one didn't, by limited appearance at least).
Yup, do it right or don't do it at all. This project is spiraling down the drain fast.
Re: System Shock 3 Layoffs Lead to Fears for the Project
Feb 8, 2020, 01:48
Feb 8, 2020, 01:48
That's most unfortunate
Re: System Shock 3 Layoffs Lead to Fears for the Project
Feb 8, 2020, 01:36
Feb 8, 2020, 01:36
Maybe Derek Smart wants to take over?
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Re: System Shock 3 Layoffs Lead to Fears for the Project
Feb 8, 2020, 00:21
Feb 8, 2020, 00:21
So instead of releasing a small/short polished game and recovering some costs or perhaps even making enough to extend the game to full length, they decided to just dump the entire thing? That's really poor business skills.
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aka_STEVE wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 22:41:
Quick, someone call Cliffy B - a project is in need of his expertise....
He's spread pretty thin what with retirement and everything, besides he'd probably ruin it by making Shodan an ichy girl.
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Quick, someone call Cliffy B - a project is in need of his expertise....
Re: System Shock 3 Layoffs Lead to Fears for the Project
Feb 7, 2020, 20:57
Feb 7, 2020, 20:57
If I had my wish, they'd abandon it altogether until they can secure a team that has the skill to do it right (which this one didn't, by limited appearance at least). Last thing I'd want is a SS3 that resembles Ascendant in any way. Furthermore, Spector, shmector. Who cares. His golden halo dried up long ago. We need more games for MIT grads.
Edit: Sounds like a perfect time to begin that SS2 replay I've been planning!
Edit: Sounds like a perfect time to begin that SS2 replay I've been planning!
jdreyer wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 19:37:
This news is a shock to the system.
No?
4/10. you're better than that dude!
Prez wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 19:43:jdreyer wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 19:37:
This news is a shock to the system.
No?
Not your best wordplay ever. Hope you're not slipping!
Yeah, still recovering from the flu.
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jdreyer wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 19:37:
This news is a shock to the system.
No?
Not your best wordplay ever. Hope you're not slipping!
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- Mahatma Gandhi
- Mahatma Gandhi
This news is a shock to the system.
No?
No?
If Russia stops fighting, the war ends. If Ukraine stops fighting, Ukraine ends. Slava Ukraini!
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 19:21:
That does not sound promising.
No it doesn't. I backed the kickstarter way back when but I'm not worried about losing the $20. I'm worried about not getting a new System Shock game. This project has been a mess since almost the very beginning.
EDIT: Wait - it looks like I'm talking about the remaster, not SS3.
“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.”
- Mahatma Gandhi
- Mahatma Gandhi
That does not sound promising.
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