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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 8, 2020, 02:29
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Re: Morning Tech Bits Feb 8, 2020, 02:29
Feb 8, 2020, 02:29
 
Came here to talk about Raja Koduri's scarf. Am disappoint.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 7, 2020, 22:11
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Feb 7, 2020, 22:11
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 22:08:
jdreyer wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 21:19:
Burrito of Peace wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 12:20:
That 1972 Gran Torino in the garage looks better and better.

Pssh. My 1976 Datsun B210 poops on your Gran Torino.

What, it leaks that much oil?
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 7, 2020, 22:08
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Re: Morning Tech Bits Feb 7, 2020, 22:08
Feb 7, 2020, 22:08
 
jdreyer wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 21:19:
Burrito of Peace wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 12:20:
That 1972 Gran Torino in the garage looks better and better.

Pssh. My 1976 Datsun B210 poops on your Gran Torino.

What, it leaks that much oil?
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Feb 7, 2020, 21:21
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Feb 7, 2020, 21:21
 
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 13:15:
Stomp your feet, pat each other on the back and yell at the clouds all you want but it's already happening.
UK Plans to Ban Sale of Gas and Diesel Cars by 2035

They won't sell new ones, but they will let the old ones die a natural death.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 7, 2020, 21:19
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Re: Morning Tech Bits Feb 7, 2020, 21:19
Feb 7, 2020, 21:19
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 12:20:
That 1972 Gran Torino in the garage looks better and better.

Pssh. My 1976 Datsun B210 poops on your Gran Torino.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 7, 2020, 16:27
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Re: Morning Tech Bits Feb 7, 2020, 16:27
Feb 7, 2020, 16:27
 
Another reason why I will NEVER own a Tesla. A POS company that is extremely overvalued!
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Feb 7, 2020, 16:10
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Re: Morning Tech Bits Feb 7, 2020, 16:10
Feb 7, 2020, 16:10
 Verno
 
The EV transition will be gradual by necessity, the batteries are too expensive and will remain so for awhile. This doesn't seem to stop people freaking out about it though. ICE cars aren't going anywhere for awhile and by the time they are you will find many affordable EVs. But make no mistake, that transition is slowly starting now and connected cars are the future. Heck even most new ICE cars are loaded with telemetry collection. Data collection and machine learning are the only way to get to Level 5 autonomous driving and companies all want to be the first.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 7, 2020, 16:04
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Re: Morning Tech Bits Feb 7, 2020, 16:04
Feb 7, 2020, 16:04
 Cutter
 
They should be holding off on pushing EVs until the infrastructure and renewables are in place and common everywhere. And that means subsidies for renewables instead oil and coal - which it should have been for the last decade now. Better still invest in really building trains and mass transit to get cars off the road instead.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 7, 2020, 14:54
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Re: Morning Tech Bits Feb 7, 2020, 14:54
Feb 7, 2020, 14:54
 
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 13:15:
Stomp your feet, pat each other on the back and yell at the clouds all you want but it's already happening.
UK Plans to Ban Sale of Gas and Diesel Cars by 2035

There are plans, and then there is reality. Without a revolutionary battery technology soon, it's not going to happen. There isn't enough lithium to replace ICE vehicles.
Andrew Barron, a professor of low carbon energy and the environment at Swansea University, has estimated that to make the switch to electric vehicles in Wales alone would use up all of Bolivia’s annual lithium output. -Sauce
Even if someone discovers a magic battery to solve all of our problems, there is also the problem of generating electricity to charge these vehicles. The UK already consumes more energy than it produces. They have to import electricity from the EU, and no telling how Brexit is going to affect that. Unless they're also planning to have new power plants (that aren't burning fossil fuels) online by 2035, it ain't happening.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 7, 2020, 14:13
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Feb 7, 2020, 14:13
 
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 13:15:
Stomp your feet, pat each other on the back and yell at the clouds all you want but it's already happening.
UK Plans to Ban Sale of Gas and Diesel Cars by 2035

It's just a reality of previously existing machines. Britain isn't going to be able to legislate those out of existence. Moreover, your own link only discusses new vehicle sales.

Add to that the fact that Britain is about the size of Alabama. If you only had to deal with such a tiny area, you could do such strict regulations. However, we're dealing with the US, Russia, China, India, and other very large countries where such regulations are laughably implausible given their sheer size and lack of consistent electric infrastructure.

My initial post about my Torino wasn't a dig at EVs, it was a dig at it being immune to having the functional aspects removed at the whim of a third party without my consent. Even so, I know that my currently existing ICE powered equipment isn't going to go anywhere in my lifetime. There's too many economic, industrial, and practical forces working in their favor.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 7, 2020, 13:49
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Well, I figure it is about 50/50 I'll make it past 2035, but if I was more confident about it I'd be willing to bet they won't successfully execute that plan...
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 7, 2020, 13:15
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Re: Morning Tech Bits Feb 7, 2020, 13:15
Feb 7, 2020, 13:15
 
Stomp your feet, pat each other on the back and yell at the clouds all you want but it's already happening.
UK Plans to Ban Sale of Gas and Diesel Cars by 2035
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 7, 2020, 13:01
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Burrito of Peace wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 12:53:
ICEs won't be outlawed in my lifetime due to the sheer amount of legacy equipment that is powered by them: generators, heavy equipment, jet engines, farm equipment, ships, small watercraft, civilian aircraft, etc. No one has yet solved the energy storage density, rapid, ubiquitous charging availability, and range problems. Until they do and it becomes cheaper than ICE, it is a pipe dream.
Exactly right.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 7, 2020, 12:53
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Feb 7, 2020, 12:53
 
RedEye9 wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 12:28:
Burrito of Peace wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 12:20:
That 1972 Gran Torino in the garage looks better and better.
and that's where it will stay when ice's outlawed, the car won't meet emission standards and / or gas is unavailable.

ICEs won't be outlawed in my lifetime due to the sheer amount of legacy equipment that is powered by them: generators, heavy equipment, jet engines, farm equipment, ships, small watercraft, civilian aircraft, etc. No one has yet solved the energy storage density, rapid, ubiquitous charging availability, and range problems. Until they do and it becomes cheaper than ICE, it is a pipe dream.

Ergo, that car will be in someone else's garage long after I am dead and it becomes incapable of being operated.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 7, 2020, 12:37
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Feb 7, 2020, 12:37
 
Cutter wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 11:52:
It's like John Deere and their anti right-to-repair stance.
That shit is crazy, Apple is right there with them. That seriously needs to get fixed at the federal level.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 7, 2020, 12:28
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Re: Morning Tech Bits Feb 7, 2020, 12:28
Feb 7, 2020, 12:28
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 12:20:
That 1972 Gran Torino in the garage looks better and better.
and that's where it will stay when ice's outlawed, the car won't meet emission standards and / or gas is unavailable.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 7, 2020, 12:20
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Re: Morning Tech Bits Feb 7, 2020, 12:20
Feb 7, 2020, 12:20
 
That 1972 Gran Torino in the garage looks better and better.
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Feb 7, 2020, 11:52
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Mr. Tact wrote on Feb 7, 2020, 11:29:
While this specific event doesn't necessarily bother me, I have to say it is a reason for me never to want a Tesla. Just not interested in owning something which is controlled so much by the manufacturer after the purchase. Yeah, there are valid arguments it can be a good thing, but it just feels so wrong and troublesome. Maybe it is just my age showing...

It should bother everyone. It's not a good thing for anyone involved...except Tesla who's happy to sell those features back to you.

If Tesla had conducted their audit prior to the sale of the car, and made everyone in the loop aware that the car was being de-contented, then that would be one thing; still kind of shitty, but a bit more defensible.

More than that, it's fraud. That's literal bait and switch. Now this guy will have to sue the dealer and the dealer will have to sue Tesla. So the courts get further clogged up and Elon's greed costs the taxpayers yet more money.

It's like John Deere and their anti right-to-repair stance. The overwhelming majority of people believe, and agree, that once a person buys a thing, they own it and can do with it as they please. Beyond that, this says to me the moment your warranty expires on the car Tesla will do it's best to make sure the car dies as quickly as possible so you have to buy a new one.

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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 7, 2020, 11:46
Verno
 
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 Verno
 
The whole thing they're doing with FSD being non-transferable is stupid and this is just bad PR for Tesla. In this case the car was sold to the dealer with the feature flagged who then sold it to a customer. The customer probably made a purchase decision based on the advertised features (software is a huge factor in weighing EVs) so the customers anger is totally understandable. They should just make good on it, no sense in taking a PR hit over 8k. They really need to just make Autopilot a subscription service, the way its monetized now is dumb.

While this specific event doesn't necessarily bother me, I have to say it is a reason for me never to want a Tesla. Just not interested in owning something which is controlled so much by the manufacturer after the purchase. Yeah, there are valid arguments it can be a good thing, but it just feels so wrong and troublesome. Maybe it is just my age showing...

This is just going to be the nature of cars moving forward, I guess you can keep fixing your old ones as long as you can but all of the manufacturers are moving towards telemetry, analytics and remote software updates. We won't get to self-driving capability without it either. To me it's pros and cons. I have a Model 3 and the new features they've added more than make up for any potential issues which can be resolved. It's disconcerting that they could remotely disable the car (arguably also good from a theft perspective I guess) or remove a specific feature but ultimately its not in their best interest to do so, brand perception is really important. People make weird privacy arguments and whatnot but my phone is already lojacking me everywhere anyway.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 7, 2020, 11:29
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Feb 7, 2020, 11:29
 
While this specific event doesn't necessarily bother me, I have to say it is a reason for me never to want a Tesla. Just not interested in owning something which is controlled so much by the manufacturer after the purchase. Yeah, there are valid arguments it can be a good thing, but it just feels so wrong and troublesome. Maybe it is just my age showing...
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