Users Savage Warcraft III: Reforged

Hell hath no fury like a gamer scorned. As of this writing the User Score on Metacritic for Warcraft III: Reforged for PC stands at 0.5 out of ten, just a shade ahead of John Blutarsky's GPA. As noted on Screenrant, this gives Blizzard's real-time strategy remake the dubious distinction of being the lowest user-rated game in Metacritic history. It currently sports a 63 metascore based on the opinions six professional critics, but the 18,353 user reviews completely savage the new release. If you sort them by "most helpful, there is one rating of 1 on the first page of results, and the remainder are 0. According to the breakdown, there are 697 positive reviews, 158 mixed reviews, and 17,498 negative ones.
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged
Feb 2, 2020, 13:08
Shock
 
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged Feb 2, 2020, 13:08
Feb 2, 2020, 13:08
 Shock
 
I wonder how many of the reviews are based on the content of the game
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged
Feb 2, 2020, 13:09
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged Feb 2, 2020, 13:09
Feb 2, 2020, 13:09
 
So without actually trying to read 20,000 reviews, what is exactly wrong with it?
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged
Feb 2, 2020, 13:22
El Pit
 
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged Feb 2, 2020, 13:22
Feb 2, 2020, 13:22
 El Pit
 
Activision needs a new victim to suck its lifeblood out and destroy its soul. I think Kotick will buy up either CD Projekt RED or Rockstar next. And it will take them about 5 years to turn it into a zombie studio and another 5 to 10 years to make it implode into a bloody mess. And then they will buy up the next studio... rinse... repeat.

What the few remaining GOOD and independent developers should learn, is: don't get overwhelmed by greed and follow Kotick to his white van. THERE IS NO CANDY! THE CAKE IS A LIE!!!
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged
Feb 2, 2020, 13:26
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged Feb 2, 2020, 13:26
Feb 2, 2020, 13:26
 
GinRummy wrote on Feb 2, 2020, 13:09:
So without actually trying to read 20,000 reviews, what is exactly wrong with it?

They outsourced the game and it shows.
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Re: Morning Tech Bits
Feb 2, 2020, 13:42
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Re: Morning Tech Bits Feb 2, 2020, 13:42
Feb 2, 2020, 13:42
 
Some info about the why:

link to Forbes article

FWIW, my ebay store has a copy of Warcraft III Reign of Chaos collector's edition, if anyone needs the original :-D

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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged
Feb 2, 2020, 13:46
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Feb 2, 2020, 13:46
 
Shock wrote on Feb 2, 2020, 13:08:
I wonder how many of the reviews are based on the content of the game
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged
Feb 2, 2020, 13:47
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged Feb 2, 2020, 13:47
Feb 2, 2020, 13:47
 
Outsourced major parts to studio in Malaysia
Engine revamp with major bugs
Classic modus has bugs
Cutscenes changed but not for the better
False promises
You can no longer play the expansion without playing base campaign first
No more user-campaigns
no custom maps load anymore

Ah yes, Blizzard.. how the mighty have fallen.

I have the disc version of Warcraft 3 <3
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged
Feb 2, 2020, 14:10
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged Feb 2, 2020, 14:10
Feb 2, 2020, 14:10
 
GinRummy wrote on Feb 2, 2020, 13:09:
So without actually trying to read 20,000 reviews, what is exactly wrong with it?

In short:

- Removed a whole bunch of crucial features
- Playermade mods now Blizzard property ( cause DOTA success story )
- Broken promises / misrepresentation
- Original game now unplayable
- You're forced to buy the new shittier version
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged
Feb 2, 2020, 14:16
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged Feb 2, 2020, 14:16
Feb 2, 2020, 14:16
 
GinRummy wrote on Feb 2, 2020, 13:09:
So without actually trying to read 20,000 reviews, what is exactly wrong with it?

Jim Sterling explains it pretty well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGFPEB1DKXI
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged
Feb 2, 2020, 14:20
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Feb 2, 2020, 14:20
 
GinRummy wrote on Feb 2, 2020, 13:09:
So without actually trying to read 20,000 reviews, what is exactly wrong with it?
And beyond the other stuff that was already mentioned, the new models are animated at 20 fps making everything look janky as f.
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged
Feb 2, 2020, 14:27
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Feb 2, 2020, 14:27
 
Ugh, good thing I avoided this. So long, Blizzard, guess you're really dead.
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Easily avoided...
Feb 2, 2020, 14:33
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Easily avoided... Feb 2, 2020, 14:33
Feb 2, 2020, 14:33
 
This wasn't news to anyone who was paying any attention whatsoever. The forums were a riot during the entire beta process, people were cancelling preorders left and right. I can't believe how many people buy stuff then complain about it immediately afterwards. Do a bare modicum of research before buying something and you will save yourself a lot of grief in life.
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged
Feb 2, 2020, 14:38
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Feb 2, 2020, 14:38
 
GinRummy wrote on Feb 2, 2020, 13:09:
So without actually trying to read 20,000 reviews, what is exactly wrong with it?
It was supposedly a remaster of the entire game, with promised upgrades to basically everything. But in the end, they redid small parts of it. And there are crazy things like a 20 FPS limit on unit movement, the removal of original parts of the game. All of that would be bad enough, but then they put in this crazy EULA which says any custom made maps belong to them, entirely without any payment or appeal. If your plan was to piss off all the people who said they loved Warcraft III -- you would be hard pressed to do better than they accomplished.
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Re: Easily avoided...
Feb 2, 2020, 14:42
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Feb 2, 2020, 14:42
 
JohnBirshire wrote on Feb 2, 2020, 14:33:
This wasn't news to anyone who was paying any attention whatsoever. The forums were a riot during the entire beta process, people were cancelling preorders left and right. I can't believe how many people buy stuff then complain about it immediately afterwards. Do a bare modicum of research before buying something and you will save yourself a lot of grief in life.
Who are you and what have you done with the regular blues poster.
Also add “Never, Ever, Pre-Order”.
+If you do pre-order you automatically lose all rights to bitch, moan or complain
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged
Feb 2, 2020, 14:42
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Feb 2, 2020, 14:42
 
DrEvil wrote on Feb 2, 2020, 13:26:
GinRummy wrote on Feb 2, 2020, 13:09:
So without actually trying to read 20,000 reviews, what is exactly wrong with it?

They outsourced the game and it shows.

Wow, I did not know this.

Simon Says wrote on Feb 2, 2020, 14:10:
GinRummy wrote on Feb 2, 2020, 13:09:
So without actually trying to read 20,000 reviews, what is exactly wrong with it?

In short:

- Removed a whole bunch of crucial features
- Playermade mods now Blizzard property ( cause DOTA success story )
- Broken promises / misrepresentation
- Original game now unplayable
- You're forced to buy the new shittier version

And I did not know this. Original Warcraft III is unplayable? Obviously your referring to the Battle.net multiplayer only. But if that's true (and I'm really hoping that it's not), that's absolutely horrible. The Internet has given the modern developer permission to rape the average hard-working gamer for life, over and over again. I was going to buy this in a couple of years when the newness wore off along with some of the new price. They better fix this up really fast if it's even possible or there will be no sale at all.

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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged
Feb 2, 2020, 14:52
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Feb 2, 2020, 14:52
 
Simon Says wrote on Feb 2, 2020, 14:10:
- Original game now unplayable
- You're forced to buy the new shittier version
Okay, I hadn't even noticed that part previously. If accurate that makes this even worse than I thought it was. Is that only referring to online play? Can I still play the game solo offline? I realize that's a small part of the game, but if they killed that too it is truly obnoxious.
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Feb 2, 2020, 15:02
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Feb 2, 2020, 15:02
 
Haha John Blutarsky. Great reference
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged
Feb 2, 2020, 15:09
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Feb 2, 2020, 15:09
 
My understanding is that if you are a Warcraft 3 vet, the servers are being shut down and you have to play this POS going forward.

edit- noticed some others also pointed this out. This is the true crime here.
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged
Feb 2, 2020, 15:15
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Re: Users Savaging Warcraft III: Reforged Feb 2, 2020, 15:15
Feb 2, 2020, 15:15
 
Already got my refund for this POS... never again, Blizz...
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Feb 2, 2020, 15:17
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Feb 2, 2020, 15:17
 
BIGtrouble77 wrote on Feb 2, 2020, 15:09:
My understanding is that if you are a Warcraft 3 vet, the servers are being shut down and you have to play this POS going forward.

edit- noticed some others also pointed this out. This is the true crime here.

Agreed. I bought the original games. I haven't played them for awhile so I don't know how much truth there is to this claim. But if it's true it's one of the most disrespectful aspects of the new release.

EDIT: It looks like you can still play your original Warcraft III games online if you only update your installed version to a specific patch version.

[url=]https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/warcraft3/t/for-those-who-want-to-play-classic-warcraft-3/15598[/url]

So, all is not lost quite yet.

This comment was edited on Feb 2, 2020, 15:48.
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